Beyonce Gets Served Fur

[yoshi]

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well have you ever watched a video about the wars? when hitler was killing jews one by one, like it was nothing?

yes. i've seen their hair, shoes and glasses put in cabinets. i've seen gas chambers and been into the crematorium. no offence but why do we always have to put all the shit together? we talk about animal rights at the moment, not about WWII..

[AspirinE]

ehh.. ok Asp, i don't wanna argue, cause it's not the point right now.. but i just think there are things that we can stop before it's too late. we still can try to stop all the damage, if we still want to live on Earth..


yes, truth hurts as fuck. but telling people the truth and making them hurt is the only way to catch their attention - no matter what we fight for, animals' rights or classles society..

Im not saying that we shouldnt protect animals, i have a dog and had several cats too, i love my animals, but wat people are saying in this thread is somewat broadminded and is said in a way that avoids the real cause for this and lashes out on the people that are using the right given to them by goverment law. If u cant change the people, change the law/goverment coz prison can change the people in a more usefull way.

[AspirinE]

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well have you ever watched a video about the wars? when hitler was killing jews one by one, like it was nothing?

yes. i've seen their hair, shoes and glasses put in cabinets. i've seen gas chambers and been into the crematorium. no offence but why do we always have to put all the shit together? we talk about animal rights at the moment, not about WWII..

Were talking bout morals and social degenaracy ...coz its actually very closely related to the subject.

[yoshi]

yes. i've seen their hair, shoes and glasses put in cabinets. i've seen gas chambers and been into the crematorium. no offence but why do we always have to put all the shit together? we talk about animal rights at the moment, not about WWII..

Were talking bout morals and social degenaracy ...coz its actually very closely related to the subject.

but don't you think that mixing holocaust and animal rights ain't just umm.. you know, pointless? as for me these are two completely differenct subjects.

[yoshi]

Im not saying that we shouldnt protect animals, i have a dog and had several cats too, i love my animals, but wat people are saying in this thread is somewat broadminded and is said in a way that avoids the real cause for this and lashes out on the people that are using the right given to them by goverment law. If u cant change the people, change the law/goverment coz prison can change the people in a more usefull way.

if we want to change the law, we have to show the goverment we don't like the current laws. can you show me other way than protesting and doing things to catch their attention?

[AspirinE]

yes. i've seen their hair, shoes and glasses put in cabinets. i've seen gas chambers and been into the crematorium. no offence but why do we always have to put all the shit together? we talk about animal rights at the moment, not about WWII..

Were talking bout morals and social degenaracy ...coz its actually very closely related to the subject.

but don't you think that mixing holocaust and animal rights ain't just umm.. you know, pointless? as for me these are two completely differenct subjects.

Ur 200 iq isnt helpping lol?

Tru was using it as a comparison, just coz its worse dont mean u cant compare it.


Holocaust- millions of russians and jews slain, nobody gave a fuck in the begining untill it started concerning them too.

Inhumanity, low moral values, stupidity, arogance.


Same thing goes for murder of animals on lower scale, but nody gives a fuck and i agree with it, ITS BAD, but wat i and maybe some other people are saying is that some people are to lazy to change something that would really stop this.

The point of iew you show is abit too shalow for the whole inhumanity debate here.

[yoshi]

Ur 200 iq isnt helpping lol?

Tru was using it as a comparison, just coz its worse dont mean u cant compare it.


Holocaust- millions of russians and jews slain, nobody gave a fuck in the begining untill it started concerning them too.

comparison between holocaust and killing animals is just improper for me.. i've never said i don't respect Tru's or your opinion, so i ask you guys to respect mine, ok?

Inhumanity, low moral values, stupidity, arogance.

main problems of presentday.

Same thing goes for murder of animals on lower scale, but nody gives a fuck and i agree with it, ITS BAD, but wat i and maybe some other people are saying is that some people are to lazy to change something that would really stop this.

The point of iew you show is abit too shalow for the whole inhumanity debate here.

Asp, come on. we can't be like "wat? everyone's too lazy to change it, so wat can i do to change it?' - nothing in particular if we say so. what i admire PETA for is the fact that they OPERATE. talkin in general: don't you think we should fight for our rights?..

[AspirinE]

Asp, come on. we can't be like "wat? everyone's too lazy to change it, so wat can i do to change it?' - nothing in particular if we say so. what i admire PETA for is the fact that they OPERATE. talkin in general: don't you think we should fight for our rights?..

Spilling paint on people is operating? no , its breaking law and destroying other peoples property. Thats just the way they show their anger, and its rather stupid.

[yoshi]

i don't say spilling paint on other people is ok - in my first post i wrote it's just not right, when we kill animals just for our own pleasure

i admit, it's just wrong and they could find another way of trying to catch goverment's attention, but PETA ain't the only one organisation what fights for something. i said i appreciate the fact when people try to change something..

[*MIRANDA*]

Spilling paint on people is operating? no , its breaking law and destroying other peoples property. Thats just the way they show their anger, and its rather stupid.

they do more than just spill paint on fur coats
thats what people kinda know them for
and the fact that people know peta of the "paint throwing"
just shows that it obviously helps
because its giving them attention
and thats exactly what they want
thats not a way to show their anger
its a way to get attention so that we don't forget its still going on
and just becuase there known for it doesn't mean that
thats not the only way they protest
so for me its not a stupid thing to do
because at the end of it all it brings the situation in the spotlight

[AspirinE]

Spilling paint on people is operating? no , its breaking law and destroying other peoples property. Thats just the way they show their anger, and its rather stupid.

they do more than just spill paint on fur coats
thats what people kinda know them for
and the fact that people know peta of the "paint throwing"
just shows that it obviously helps
because its giving them attention
and thats exactly what they want
thats not a way to show their anger
its a way to get attention so that we don't forget its still going on
and just becuase there known for it doesn't mean that
thats not the only way they protest
so for me its not a stupid thing to do
because at the end of it all it brings the situation in the spotlight

anger and attention whoring does not solve problems, they can make a trillion snuff films about animals and throw paint on thousands of people, it wont change shit, if it will, it will do so insignificantly. These peoplr should protest for human rights, change moral outlook and then automatically the situation with animal cruelty. PRIORITIES, as TRU said... priorities.

[yoshi]

anger and attention whoring does not solve problems, they can make a trillion snuff films about animals and throw paint on thousands of people, it wont change shit, if it will, it will do so insignificantly. These peoplr should protest for human rights, change moral outlook and then automatically the situation with animal cruelty. PRIORITIES, as TRU said... priorities.

umm.. if they operated in underground, no one would know shit about what they do. if they catch attention, it makes people aware of the fact, there's such a problem.

[AspirinE]

anger and attention whoring does not solve problems, they can make a trillion snuff films about animals and throw paint on thousands of people, it wont change shit, if it will, it will do so insignificantly. These peoplr should protest for human rights, change moral outlook and then automatically the situation with animal cruelty. PRIORITIES, as TRU said... priorities.

umm.. if they operated in underground, no one would know shit about what they do. if they catch attention, it makes people aware of the fact, there's such a problem.

they shouldnt be wasting their usefull outrage on inhumanity on animals, while there are people dying...


PEOPLE>animals...


If these people wanna help animals they should help people first, coz if they dont they are hypocrits.


In this way they are NOT usefull, they are nobody's.

[*MIRANDA*]

umm.. if they operated in underground, no one would know shit about what they do. if they catch attention, it makes people aware of the fact, there's such a problem.

exactly

[yoshi]

umm.. ok. so why doesn't Beyonce bring her ass together and instead of making furry coats, start donating charity?.. instead of wasting her usefull outrage, she could do it, couldn't she?.. she could help both human and animals.


shall we call it a day then, or you wanna lead this converation till 2008, Aspy?


thanks for your support Miranda