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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Shade135 » May 14th, '13, 21:06

Slim Cary wrote:1. Rap isn't as popular as it once was
2. People steal more music now than they did in Em's selling prime.
3. Why do you all care how much he sells? Does it make the cd sound better? Does it make you feel better knowing someone with more money than they could ever spend have a little more?

I don't care if it sells 12 copies. As long as I get one and it sounds good.


For number 3; I take pride in knowing that the artist I like the most sells huge number's. I like to be able to say he is the highest selling artist ofthe past decade...just another reason to give somebody as to why he is better than everbody else. For me it's quality + number's.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Jimmy Conway » May 14th, '13, 21:28

Shade135 wrote:
Slim Cary wrote:1. Rap isn't as popular as it once was
2. People steal more music now than they did in Em's selling prime.
3. Why do you all care how much he sells? Does it make the cd sound better? Does it make you feel better knowing someone with more money than they could ever spend have a little more?

I don't care if it sells 12 copies. As long as I get one and it sounds good.


For number 3; I take pride in knowing that the artist I like the most sells huge number's. I like to be able to say he is the highest selling artist ofthe past decade...just another reason to give somebody as to why he is better than everbody else. For me it's quality + number's.


Numbers mean nothing in terms of being better. Rihanna's last album has sold over 2 million. Nas's last album has sold a little over 300 thousand. Doesn't mean Rihanna is more talented. It means there are a bunch more women out there that want to listen to rhianna and be like I LOVE HIM, I WISH HE WAS NICE TO ME, BUT HE ISN'T, I CAN'T WALK AWAY, OMG I RELATE TO HER SO MUCH. Rather than hip hop fans.

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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Trimss » May 14th, '13, 21:30

Slim Cary wrote:Like nas said. Hip hop is dead.


Please don't tell me you just said that.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby SajN » May 14th, '13, 21:31

Trimss wrote:
Slim Cary wrote:Like nas said. Hip hop is dead.


Please don't tell me you just said that.

He did.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby PAINKILLƎR » May 14th, '13, 21:32

Trimss wrote:
Slim Cary wrote:Like nas said. Hip hop is dead.


Please don't tell me you just said that.

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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby _Hawk_ » May 14th, '13, 22:12

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Nah; for Em, the element of surprise and BLAM out of nowhere is partially what creates the sales he has over and over again. He intruiges people, then comes out with something sounding totally fresh from before, but just a hint of the album, so people frenzy to check it out...


This is not true AT ALL. It is only a recent trend of intrigue which explains Interscope's current marketing scheme for Eminem's albums. Eminem albums have always followed long periods of hype, promotion, suspense and advertisement; none of which are prevalent in the current marketing scheme for Eminem's 8th album at all.

Eminem's early releases were supported by countless TV-commercials/appearances (remember EM-TV?), radio features and freestyles, billboards, posters, etc. Eminem was constantly in the news, and knowledge about his albums (whilst remaining secretive regarding the content) was easily accessible. There was consistent hype.

He certainly has never really 'come out of nowhere'. Obviously it was a shock when he came out of rehab with Relapse, but that too was heavily supported with TV appearances in multiple countries, radio sets and even a pop-in-shop in London when the album dropped.
Arguably for Relapse the re-entry of Eminem into the limelight, compounded by its relative shock, helped boost sales, however it certainly did not show any similar trends to his previous releases and equally cannot be compared to later releases when arguing that intrigue boosts sales. The fact of the matter is that people were hyped to see Eminem back making music which is an extremely unique type of hype, in no way relevant or comparable to succeeding album releases.

EminemBase wrote: Recovery did like 750k and people had no idea what to expect BUT, many didn't like Relapse and had no idea what Recovery would be like, and presumed it would at least be similar, and it still sold like it did; I know "Not Afraid" gave the sound away, but many people only just got used to the fact he was back, his fans knew but most people had forgot about him being an active presence...


Yes, people were not too sure what to expect with Recovery, however it was only the album's content which carried intrigue. Relapse had already helped market it, albeit under the guise of 'Relapse 2'. This is fundamental for people to realise, and it often gets overlooked. The fact of the matter is that Recovery did not need to be pushed into the limelight because its focus as Eminem's 7th studio album had already been cemented, regardless of its title. People knew that Eminem was going to come out with a new album and thus the hype from Relapse followed on. The constant stream of music from Relapse certainly helped maintain interest: something which has been lacking from Eminem as of late, as his interaction with fans (through interviews, radio, music etc) has been lamentable at best.

The bottom line is that Eminem's previous albums all followed periods of hype, anticipation and marketing which his 8th-studio album simply lacks. Whilst his name will help boost sales, now is the time for fans to be enticed and apathetic listeners be reeled in.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Francesco » May 14th, '13, 23:42

Em definitely can't EASILY sell a million plus first week regardless of what part of the year he drops his new album. Those days are gone.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby HeySamantha » May 14th, '13, 23:47

People need to stop ripping albums and support the artists. If people would just buy the $10 album, he would do a million tbh. Easy.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Francesco » May 15th, '13, 00:04

HeySamantha_ wrote:People need to stop ripping albums and support the artists. If people would just buy the $10 album, he would do a million tbh. Easy.


Well IF doesn't work like that in reality... IF the communist party in China forced people to buy it then it could easily sell a billion too.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby HeySamantha » May 15th, '13, 00:11

Francesco wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:People need to stop ripping albums and support the artists. If people would just buy the $10 album, he would do a million tbh. Easy.


Well IF doesn't work like that in reality... IF the communist party in China forced people to buy it then it could easily sell a billion too.

but WHY do you TYPE like this? THAT is my question!
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Francesco » May 15th, '13, 00:15

HeySamantha_ wrote:
Francesco wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:People need to stop ripping albums and support the artists. If people would just buy the $10 album, he would do a million tbh. Easy.


Well IF doesn't work like that in reality... IF the communist party in China forced people to buy it then it could easily sell a billion too.

but WHY do you TYPE like this? THAT is my question!


Well I guess it was obvious why I made it stand out.
It was a reality check 101.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby HeySamantha » May 15th, '13, 00:21

I know but just by reading what you're saying, we know you're putting emphasis on "if" lol

But anyway, people should buy the album and not rip it. A lot of people on here openly say they rip albums lol
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Francesco » May 15th, '13, 00:27

HeySamantha_ wrote:I know but just by reading what you're saying, we know you're putting emphasis on "if" lol
But anyway, people should buy the album and not rip it. A lot of people on here openly say they rip albums lol


I know... that's why I said it was a reality check.
I hope you didn't think I was trying to be a smart ass or something though... I was just saying.
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby HeySamantha » May 15th, '13, 00:31

Francesco wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:I know but just by reading what you're saying, we know you're putting emphasis on "if" lol
But anyway, people should buy the album and not rip it. A lot of people on here openly say they rip albums lol


I know... that's why I said it was a reality check.
I hope you didn't think I was trying to be a smart ass or something though... I was just saying.

I didn't think that at all, but it seems like you think people are stupid and that you need to emphasize words for them, or something lol. We get what you're saying, is all :happy:
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Re: Em could easily sell a million plus on the first week if

Postby Francesco » May 15th, '13, 00:41

HeySamantha_ wrote:
Francesco wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:I know but just by reading what you're saying, we know you're putting emphasis on "if" lol
But anyway, people should buy the album and not rip it. A lot of people on here openly say they rip albums lol

I know... that's why I said it was a reality check.
I hope you didn't think I was trying to be a smart ass or something though... I was just saying.

I didn't think that at all, but it seems like you think people are stupid and that you need to emphasize words for them, or something lol. We get what you're saying, is all :happy:


Nah I just like doing it crystal clear... it's a habit I guess.
I'm not the one to judge who's stupid or not anyway.
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