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Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby Mr.DGAF » Jun 27th, '13, 23:50

Ahhh, I misinterpreted your beef with the lines. :b:
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby Slim Fiasco » Jun 28th, '13, 00:20

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Same here, they're the best in their own ways. And I'm the best of those 2 worlds.
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby SliK » Jun 28th, '13, 01:27

Prime Eminem > Prime Lupe
Current Eminem > Current Lupe

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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby slimsoxshady » Jun 28th, '13, 06:42

Eminem just puts words together that don't mean anything 99% of the time...which I have no problem with, just pointing out the truth
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 28th, '13, 06:45

slimsoxshady wrote:Eminem just puts words together that don't mean anything 99% of the time...which I have no problem with, just pointing out the truth


I wouldn't say '99% of the time'...

There was a lot of clever social commentary on sslp and mmlp, and good political comment on tes.
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jun 28th, '13, 06:48

slimsoxshady wrote:Eminem just puts words together that don't mean anything 99% of the time...which I have no problem with, just pointing out the truth

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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby OMEGA » Jun 28th, '13, 06:53

Eminem, easily. Lupe was excellent during F&l and even The Cool, but he started to become pretentious as fuck. Just listen to Bitch Bad and tell me that shit doesn't make you cringe.
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby slimshadylappin » Jun 28th, '13, 08:32

Right now? Lupe, not even fucking close


When they were both in their primes I think Lupe still edges Em out but it is closer. As an artist I will always prefer Lupe because he raps about real problems and social issues instead of his own personal problems. It isn't necessarily better, just my type of music.

Imo The Cool and Food and Liquor are easily up there with Em's best albums and perhaps even better. Unfortunately both rappers have fallen off. Eminem has fallen off in almost every category and Lupe chooses the most retarded beats while being way to fucking preachy and overdramatic. Going from listening to F&L and MMLP to Recovery and Lasers makes me incredibly sad :(.
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby slimshadylappin » Jun 28th, '13, 08:40

Amadeo wrote:
fifflaren wrote:Lupe is probably the best lyricist the game has ever seen.

"If you ain't Million Dollar Dreaming then we opposites / In high school I was voted the most Ted DiBiase-est / Also the most slept on, cause my Ted DiBiase-ness"

"Cecil Rhodes sewed war and genocide into the countryside just to get his shine on / I fear what De Beers and his peers used to do before the world really knew just to get their mine on"

And that's from his mixtapes

Whoaaa. He's talking about what happened in Africa...he knows about stuff that goes on in other parts of the world, yo. He is smaaaaaart.


Several things wrong with the first line. Nobody ever voted Lupe Fiasco the "Ted DiBiase-est" in high school, nor has anybody ever used that as a superlative. As with most of his double entendres, the surface meaning is completely forced and it's poorly executed.

He's basically 100 Bulletz all over again. Associative wordplay. Takes a broad topic, cherry picks terms/titles from it, puts it into a barely coherent sentence to create another meaning, and we're meant to marvel at the genius.

What an unremarkable lyricist.

He picked a poor example imo. If you want a good example of Lupe's lyrical prowess then listen to Failure. Or just go on rap genius, turn on the song and sit there wide eyed.

Em's lyrical ability isn't as subtle. The way he puts together words was crisp and genius but also not deeply layered enough to make you spend time slowly divulging what he is saying.

Lupe's best songs are like poetry in that you have to look at them at different angles and carefully unravel them to find the true beauty inside :)
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby chopsuey567 » Jun 28th, '13, 16:02

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slimshadylappin wrote:
Amadeo wrote:
fifflaren wrote:Lupe is probably the best lyricist the game has ever seen.

"If you ain't Million Dollar Dreaming then we opposites / In high school I was voted the most Ted DiBiase-est / Also the most slept on, cause my Ted DiBiase-ness"

"Cecil Rhodes sewed war and genocide into the countryside just to get his shine on / I fear what De Beers and his peers used to do before the world really knew just to get their mine on"

And that's from his mixtapes

Whoaaa. He's talking about what happened in Africa...he knows about stuff that goes on in other parts of the world, yo. He is smaaaaaart.


Several things wrong with the first line. Nobody ever voted Lupe Fiasco the "Ted DiBiase-est" in high school, nor has anybody ever used that as a superlative. As with most of his double entendres, the surface meaning is completely forced and it's poorly executed.

He's basically 100 Bulletz all over again. Associative wordplay. Takes a broad topic, cherry picks terms/titles from it, puts it into a barely coherent sentence to create another meaning, and we're meant to marvel at the genius.

What an unremarkable lyricist.

He picked a poor example imo. If you want a good example of Lupe's lyrical prowess then listen to Failure. Or just go on rap genius, turn on the song and sit there wide eyed.

Em's lyrical ability isn't as subtle. The way he puts together words was crisp and genius but also not deeply layered enough to make you spend time slowly divulging what he is saying.

Lupe's best songs are like poetry in that you have to look at them at different angles and carefully unravel them to find the true beauty inside :)


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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jun 28th, '13, 17:39

I'd take clarity over subtlety any day.
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Re: Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, who is the best lyricist ?

Postby CrashBand » Jun 28th, '13, 17:45

Kinda apples and oranges.

I'm not a huge fan of Lupe's double entendrezzz and whining about shit like a generic liberal. Although, his first two albums are great to listen to. The production on both is awesome.
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