Entertainment Weekly's 100 Greatest Albums Ever

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Kanye EATIN shit

MMLP is way better than MBDTF

[EminemBase]

Any list is arbitrary though.

I don't understand the resentment with MBDTF. People seem to really hate Kanye West... and people seem to really hate Kanye West doing well.

Not really doh.

I'm a big Kanye fan, I just see things as they are - and when critics and people react in a hyperbole way and fail to assess things accurately it's annoying as hell.

MBDTF fantasy is a good album, but 8th of all time? LOL.

[Supershade]

MMLP is way better than MBDTF

[Just Silver]

I guess Kanye is just way better than i thought

[SoldierShady]

9. The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds
8. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
7. Aretha Franklin, Lady Soul

The 8th greatest album of ALL time? LOL.

It's not even greater, or fucking anywhere near MMLP which is 41.

Ridiculous.

Ridiculous according to who? Lol. It's someone else's opinion at the end of the day so it doesn't really matter. That's why I never give a fuck about "lists" or what have you.

[CrashBand]

Not really doh.

I'm a big Kanye fan, I just see things as they are - and when critics and people react in a hyperbole way and fail to assess things accurately it's annoying as hell.

MBDTF fantasy is a good album, but 8th of all time? LOL.

That's such a bland statement that everyone says, lol. "Eminem is a great rapper, but best musician of all time? - are you high?"

Before you go and justify that he is... Why is it so ridiculous? It's an amazing album, that can mix it with the best.

Do you think it's so obvious that it's a big step down in quality from the rest of the top 20 or something?

[SoldierShady]

It's a group of people's opinions though, a publication at that. They should be ashamed of themselves to even place that in the top 10.

Again, no one gives a fuck. Them merely placing MBTDF in the top 8 and MMLP nowhere near doesn't make one album any less than the other quality-wise....and vice versa. Nah'meen? Make your own list in your head and revel in it if this list bothers you, lol.
It's all opinion.

[Mr Change]

So you don't care if someone thinks MBDTF is amazing, but you can't stand people who are vocal with their opinions and critics thinking MBDTF is amazing?

Not every person uses the same album evaluation system that you or this forum uses, and their appreciation of this album might be based off of different reasons you wouldn't be able to process. Some are listening looking purely for an engaging experience, some are looking strictly for innovation, some are looking for lyrical excellence, and some are looking for albums replicating traditional sounds they know and love.

Those lists are published by massive websites, but they are entirely subjective. Pitchfork, Complex, The Source, XXL, every magazine have it's own crowd. It isn't so far fetched to think that there's some listeners completely agree with the list's order. When you're debating why you think the album is trash, you're speaking of your own likes and dislikes. Maybe you prefer __ over __, it's still what you prefer.

When a site is considered credible. That's because a lot of people agree with it's reviews. I, for one, listen to huge percentage of projects BeatsPerMinute recommends, because I find myself agreeing with most of their reviews. Does that mean they're the best review site? No, it just means it's my favorite. Similarly, the way anyone holds any review site is entirely based on one's personal bias.

What does it mean when a specific album is getting massive praise by a lot of reviewers? It means that it appeals to a wider range of music listeners. Yeezus being acclaimed by XXL, Pitchfork, Complex, Rolling Stones, Allmusic.. it means fans of each magazine are more likely to like the album, and since it is all of them, it means more people will enjoy Yeezus. Allmusic was one reviewer that gave Relapse the same score as Yeezus, that implies that Allmusic fans are more likely to enjoy both albums, same thing cannot be said for Pitchfork fans. And similarly, those who find themselves agreeing with Anthony Fantano will think Yeezus is completely mediocre.

You can cop-out and say that reviews don't mean anything and most critics 'don't understand music'. It still means that more people are enjoying Yeezus than people who aren't. And no matter how much people try, there's no such thing as reviewing music objectively, because that's inhuman and extremely difficult to do, everyone will always have their own means of evaluation and that will defy the purpose of an objective review. But there's still interesting information to receive from music reviewers, though it remains that, interesting. It isn't opinion-changing for the most part (unless you lack a personality).

When you say you "can't take Complex seriously" and "EW is ridiculous", you're only expressing your grieve and dissatisfaction to why people who are more known than yourselves are not carrying your same opinion, or your inability to understand how they listen to music differently than you do. It's only a measurement of the direction empowered by the bigger percentage of the public's opinion.

People react to an opinion they disagree with so aggressively. It isn't that important to have the musical upperhand when it comes to having your opinion aided by numerous people who are on the same side as you. Unless you're certain that people are unexposed to your music and are exclusively listening to a certain type of music or certain artists, make love, not hate. We're all open-minded people who have different interests and care about different things, and thus we like different music.

If you can't justify why people like a certain album, you simply don't have to. All you need to do is not aim for the revolutionary status by treating yourself as a blessing upon humanity, have an inaccurate rating on the importance of your opinion and think everyone should look at music the same way you do. At the end of the day, it's somebody else's list, don't like it? Make your own and maybe, maybe you'll have plenty of followers by panning Kanye's albums, praising Em's and pissing Kanye fans off, the polar opposite of what EW did, and you'll have your own credible website that's being trashed by everybody else.

Didn't read but looks like we got a bad Base over here

[EminemBase]

Not really doh.

I'm a big Kanye fan, I just see things as they are - and when critics and people react in a hyperbole way and fail to assess things accurately it's annoying as hell.

MBDTF fantasy is a good album, but 8th of all time? LOL.

That's such a bland statement that everyone says, lol. "Eminem is a great rapper, but best musician of all time? - are you high?"

Before you go and justify that he is... Why is it so ridiculous? It's an amazing album, that can mix it with the best.

Do you think it's so obvious that it's a big step down in quality from the rest of the top 20 or something?

It's not really bland though because I don't think MBDTF comes close to top 20 HIP-HOP albums of all-time let alone all albums in general.

People who think Kanye is innovative for using a retarded 'from another planet' metaphor to refer to how he felt for being alienated for interrupting someone like a cock... are delusional. The metaphor he used for the movie was contrived and ridiculous, and pretentious as hell...

The music was generally good but if you take a song like "Runaway"... like, REALLY? that is supposed to be one of the penultimate tracks of a top 10 album of all-time?

There's a million Dylan tracks, Beatles, Bowie tracks that just absolutely obliterate songs like that in terms of, loosely, 'love songs', it's really not that great and there's many lazy elements to his lyrics, rapping and the whole deal, to rate tracks like that above truly special pieces of music which cross genres and last 50 years with their musicianship... I mean, do you really think in 50 years people will be going WOW @ Kanye going "LET'S HAVE A TOAST FOR THE DOOOUUCHEBAGS" over a simple piano before some retard comes in rapping "PUSSY STAYS ON MY MINNNND", how ridiculous

Kanye is not that creative, conceptually, in fact the album has no real amazing concepts, he's just creatively musically - at mixing other genres, borrowing, sampling and creating musical landscapes... but lyrically and conceptually the album is not like... mind-blowing, there's just some good-ass tracks, some okay tracks and some meh tracks... it flows nicely, it's musically vast and brilliant but other than that, there's nothing that validates it being a top 10 of all-time album.

I'm glad they put Revolver by the Beatles ahead of Kanye as that is what you call innovative music, The Beatles were true abstract thinkers who drifted into concepts with way way much more conviction, creativity and scope than Kanye ever has.

And I'm a Kanye fan, but the overrating of that album is ridiculous.

[Eedee]

Yeah.... no. MBDTF at 8? Nope.

[King Lance]

Mbdtf is 6 on the vibe's list

50. Musiq Soulchild- Aijuswanaseing (2000)
49. Alicia Keys- Songs In A Minor (2001)
48. Green Day- American Idiot (2004)
47. Donell Jones- Where I Wanna Be (1999)
46. Young Jeezy- The Recession (2008)
45. Miguel- Kaleidoscope Dream (2012)
44. Common- BE- (2005)
43. Adele- 21 (2011)
42. Jamiroquai- Travelling Without Moving (1996)
41. Beyonce- B'Day (2006)
40. 112- 112 (1996)
39. John Mayer- CONTINUUM (2006)
38. Jill Scott- Who Is Jill Scott? Words and Sounds Vol. 1 (2000)
37. Faith Evans- Faith (1995)
36. R.Kelly- R.Kelly (1995)
35. Kings Of Leon- Only By The Night (2008)
34. Jay Z- The Black Album (2003)
33. Amy Winehouse- Back To Black (2006)
32. Lil Kim- Hard Core (1996)
31. Toni Braxton- Toni Braxton (1993)
30. 2Pac (As Makaveli)- The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996)
29. Erykah Badu- Baduizm (1997)
28. Radiohead- Kid A (2000)
27. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Trying (2003)
26. Mobb Deep- The Infamous (1995)
25. Jay Z and Kanye West- Watch The Throne (2011)
24. Mariah Carey- The Emancipation Of Mimi (2005)
23. Dr. Dre- Chronic 2001 (1999)
22. Janet Jackson- Janet (1993)
21. A Tribe Called Quest- Midnight Marauders (1993)
20. OutKast- Aquemini (1998)
19. Kendrick Lamar- "Good Kid, M.A.A.D City" (2012)
18. Jay Z- Reasonable Doubt (1996)
17. Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
16. Kanye West- Late Registration (2005)
15. Maxwell- Urnban Hang Suite (1996)
14. Wu-Tang Clan Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
13. The Notorious B.I.G- Ready To Die (1994)
12. Snoop Doggy Dogg- DOGGYSTLE (1993)
11. Raekwon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... (1995)
10. Usher- Confessions (2004)
9. Lauryn Hill- The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill (1998)
8. Jay Z- The Blueprint (2001)
7. R.Kelly- TP-2.COM (2000)
6. Kanye West- My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
5. Justin Timberlake- FUTURESEX/LOVESOUNDS (2006)
4. Mary J. Blige- My Life (1995)
3. Nas- Illmatic (1994)
2. D'Angelo- Brown Sugar (1995)
1. The Notorious B.I.G- Life After Death

http://www.vibe.com/photo-gallery/great ... s-since-93

[Trimss]

Well I guess MBDTF is a better album then MMLP then

[Eedee]

Well I guess MBDTF is a better album then MMLP then

Must be. *shrug*

[LIL_B]

niggas crying and shit

[Snakebeast]

According to this list, GRODT>>>>>>TES and SSLP.