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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Snakebeast » Jul 3rd, '13, 05:18

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EminemBase wrote:"We Made You" is awesome.

If you're gonna put a horrible Em song on there - "Just Lose It", "Ass Like That", even "Not Afraid" (guilty pleasure but it's kind of atrocious lmao) all infinitely qualify more.

"We Made You" is just a tired rehash of the 1st single formula, but the rapping, rhyming, beat... everything bar the fart and the stupid video are badass as hell.

"Just Lose It" is his all-time worst song for me. Even the rhyming is terrible... which is saying something as even on shit days his rhyming is usually better than the average mainstream rapper and he normally always holds some kind of technical standard, but on that song it's not there, then that fucking chorus which is the most annoying chorus in the history of music, then the corny fucking kids dancing...

"We Made You" rapping is awesome.


I'm sorry EmBase but I believe for once I 100% disagree with you on something. Not Afraid mentioned along the lines of "Just Lose It" and "Ass Like That"? Let alone mentioning it in a discussion of worst Eminem songs..."My First Single"? "Big Weenie"? "My 1st Single"? "Fack"? Any of those ring a bell? They are some of the worst Eminem songs. Not "Not Afraid". No matter how much of a commercially-compromised-Eminem-sucks joint you're smoking, implying that Not Afraid is anywhere near the level of these songs is what I call atrocious.

I agree with you entirely. While I despise Not Afraid and think of it as one of the worst written songs on Recovery, if not the worst, it belongs nowhere NEAR a top ten list of worst Em songs. Or even top 25. Embase whatchu smokin?
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby EminemBase » Jul 3rd, '13, 05:54

Snake897 wrote:
GoinThruChanges wrote:
EminemBase wrote:"We Made You" is awesome.

If you're gonna put a horrible Em song on there - "Just Lose It", "Ass Like That", even "Not Afraid" (guilty pleasure but it's kind of atrocious lmao) all infinitely qualify more.

"We Made You" is just a tired rehash of the 1st single formula, but the rapping, rhyming, beat... everything bar the fart and the stupid video are badass as hell.

"Just Lose It" is his all-time worst song for me. Even the rhyming is terrible... which is saying something as even on shit days his rhyming is usually better than the average mainstream rapper and he normally always holds some kind of technical standard, but on that song it's not there, then that fucking chorus which is the most annoying chorus in the history of music, then the corny fucking kids dancing...

"We Made You" rapping is awesome.


I'm sorry EmBase but I believe for once I 100% disagree with you on something. Not Afraid mentioned along the lines of "Just Lose It" and "Ass Like That"? Let alone mentioning it in a discussion of worst Eminem songs..."My First Single"? "Big Weenie"? "My 1st Single"? "Fack"? Any of those ring a bell? They are some of the worst Eminem songs. Not "Not Afraid". No matter how much of a commercially-compromised-Eminem-sucks joint you're smoking, implying that Not Afraid is anywhere near the level of these songs is what I call atrocious.

I agree with you entirely. While I despise Not Afraid and think of it as one of the worst written songs on Recovery, if not the worst, it belongs nowhere NEAR a top ten list of worst Em songs. Or even top 25. Embase whatchu smokin?


I ain't saying it's up there with those songs lmao, I'm just saying it would be more valid of an inclusion as a bad song than "We Made You" to me.

The beat of "Not Afraid" sucks ass, the chorus (a guilty pleasure, I enjoy it but it's kind of insanely corny) is pretty bad (again, I enjoy it but just looking at it generally, it's a bit embarrassing lmao, and most of the lines are RIDICULOUSLY awful - "stop playing with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap" :laughing: , it's like unintentionally funny bad puns, but I like "Not Afraid"... just because something has bad elements doesn't mean you can't like it, I find it fun to rap with, it's catchy...

But "We Made You" to me has no such flaws, as I said the fart shit is the only stupid thing about it but all the lines, the lyricism, his writing, his rhyming, his flow, everything is awesome.

I think a more valid case of "Not Afraid" being a bad song could be made than "We Made You" any day of the week - if you can't stand his WMY voice, fair enough, but rap-wise, it's good to go.

But obviously NF isn't up there with his worst shit. Just more valid, recent-wise, than WMY.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Snakebeast » Jul 3rd, '13, 05:58

EminemBase wrote:
Snake897 wrote:
GoinThruChanges wrote:
I'm sorry EmBase but I believe for once I 100% disagree with you on something. Not Afraid mentioned along the lines of "Just Lose It" and "Ass Like That"? Let alone mentioning it in a discussion of worst Eminem songs..."My First Single"? "Big Weenie"? "My 1st Single"? "Fack"? Any of those ring a bell? They are some of the worst Eminem songs. Not "Not Afraid". No matter how much of a commercially-compromised-Eminem-sucks joint you're smoking, implying that Not Afraid is anywhere near the level of these songs is what I call atrocious.

I agree with you entirely. While I despise Not Afraid and think of it as one of the worst written songs on Recovery, if not the worst, it belongs nowhere NEAR a top ten list of worst Em songs. Or even top 25. Embase whatchu smokin?


I ain't saying it's up there with those songs lmao, I'm just saying it would be more valid of an inclusion as a bad song than "We Made You" to me.

The beat of "Not Afraid" sucks ass, the chorus (a guilty pleasure, I enjoy it but it's kind of insanely corny) is pretty bad (again, I enjoy it but just looking at it generally, it's a bit embarrassing lmao, and most of the lines are RIDICULOUSLY awful - "stop playing with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap" :laughing: , it's like unintentionally funny bad puns, but I like "Not Afraid"... just because something has bad elements doesn't mean you can't like it, I find it fun to rap with, it's catchy...

But "We Made You" to me has no such flaws, as I said the fart shit is the only stupid thing about it but all the lines, the lyricism, his writing, his rhyming, his flow, everything is awesome.

I think a more valid case of "Not Afraid" being a bad song could be made than "We Made You" any day of the week - if you can't stand his WMY voice, fair enough, but rap-wise, it's good to go.

But obviously NF isn't up there with his worst shit. Just more valid, recent-wise, than WMY.


Trust me, I know about the flaws. I was defending your bashing of it earlier. We Made You is a bad poppy rap song with good flow, delivery, and rhyming. It's funny at times. On the other hand, it has dated pop culture references people stopped caring about in 07, and is one of the standout tracks on Relapse, not for being one of the best, but for being randomly goofy and stupid. It's also far more immature than any "hoe bashing" Em has done in the past three years.

"Wowzers, I just made a mess in my trousers!!"

Really? You have your Relapse goggles on, bro. Take em off.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Fleka » Jul 3rd, '13, 06:46

Ice Cube- You Can Do It!? What the fuck is this shit!?!??!
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Snakebeast » Jul 3rd, '13, 06:58

Geno wrote:"Wowzers, I just made a mess in my trousers" is funnier than any of Not Afraid's punchlines.

I ain't playin' around,
There's a game called circle, and I dunno how..

Only way this woulda been funny is if he used his Yoda voice, because it's so awkwardly worded.

No way is Not Afraid better than We Made You. I'm just making the argument that We Made You is also plenty bad. And the most unfitting lead single for an album Em's made, except maybe for Without Me.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby EminemBase » Jul 3rd, '13, 08:40

Snake897 wrote:Trust me, I know about the flaws. I was defending your bashing of it earlier. We Made You is a bad poppy rap song with good flow, delivery, and rhyming. It's funny at times. On the other hand, it has dated pop culture references people stopped caring about in 07, and is one of the standout tracks on Relapse, not for being one of the best, but for being randomly goofy and stupid. It's also far more immature than any "hoe bashing" Em has done in the past three years.

"Wowzers, I just made a mess in my trousers!!"

Really? You have your Relapse goggles on, bro. Take em off.


Firstly - that 'dated pop references' argument is retarded.

The 'relevancy' of Em's references, or any reference for that matter, never matters. Critics who keep banging on about him being out of date with his references... that's NOT the point of the joke or the reference and never is. If he names Kim Kardashian, or Jessica Simpson or WHOEVER, the importance is not how relevant they happen to be - those names are just short-cuts to character-types of the day and the character-types apply to multiple people - in reality he's just naming a slutty big assed pop figure, it doesn't matter what the name is, that's just a short-cut to familiarity.

So people who think the relevancy of the names is the important bit, are idiots.

He's been naming Chirstopher Reeve for 13 years, do you really think his aim is to stay relevant with who he's referring to? It's about inducing characters in to his raps and having running jokes (funny or not, the names don't matter), it's not truly about 'who's hot right now', that's such a stupid mindset.

And how is "We Made You" (beyond the video, i'm talking about the music and the lyrics) goofy?, that line you mentioned (wowzers) is jokey sarcasm, it's actually funny, and funnier than puns.

And there's some actually really good writing in WMY such as:

"You think that's bad?
You should hear the rest of my album
Never has there been such finesse and nostalgia!"

And

"The enforcer, looking for more women to torture"

His phrasing is poetic like it is throughout Relapse, it's like writers' phrasing, 'and little did I mention', sounds, well as he put it - finessed. Rather than clunky, clumsy and cringy like a lot of Recovery.

The hook is poppy yes but it's just a question of whether it's good or bad, I like the hook and don't find the beat poppy - it's kind of jazzy and bouncy, it's an actually good beat compared to that piece of shit NF beat made by a 14 year old in his bedroom with tin-can drums.

Everything about WMY you is good - the beat, the rhyming, the flow, the lyrics...

A few minor flaws such as the fart noise and the pop references - not because they're 'dated', just because they're boring and it's the same shtick. But it's a far more enjoyable piece of music, and a better made song. The video is goofy, nothing else about the song is; zany would be a better would to describe it, as are all of his first singles other than "Not Afraid", but it's solid writing.

PS. Just read your latest post... "Without Me" unfitting?... it fits perfectly on The Eminem Show, "Just Lose It" is easily the least fitting - there is some silly shit on Encore which coincides but to put out "Just Lose It" on an album with "Mosh" and "Spend Some Time" just sounds weird...

"We Made You" totally fits Relapse. The style is exactly like the rest of the album, as is the beat, as is the writing, as are the lyrics. They're just more condensed and in a sense dumbed down since it's a single, so the jokes are more surface-based and lighter, but it totally fits Relapse.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Jason M. » Jul 3rd, '13, 09:00

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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Tornado » Jul 3rd, '13, 11:22

Firstly, Busta Rhymes-Get Out??? Horrible song?? The fuck are they talking about. Secondly, We Made You is a pretty bad song, flow and some witty bars aside but there are worse Em songs, how Fack didn't get there, i don't know
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Francesco » Jul 3rd, '13, 11:53

SG. wrote:I could name 20 worse songs for each artist.


Easily... & so much more made by other great rappers.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby EminemBase » Jul 3rd, '13, 18:20

Amadeo wrote:
Snake897 wrote:On the other hand, it has dated pop culture references people stopped caring about in 07

:facepalm


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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Arrinef » Jul 3rd, '13, 18:54

Id replace we made you with crack a bottle
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby DƎRDYPK » Jul 3rd, '13, 18:57

-Busta Rhymes "Get Out!!" (2000)


*get out...get out...GET OUT OF HERE!!!*
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Arrinef » Jul 3rd, '13, 19:03

Aone10 wrote:
ArrineF wrote:Id replace we made you with crack a bottle


How about My 1st Single? That song is pretty bad. The beat is just :scratching:

I picked it cause the rest of the list is feature heavy. But I get you.
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby Mr Change » Jul 3rd, '13, 19:16

I never understood the hate for Crack a Bottle tbh :coffee: not the best song but c'mon it's not that bad
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Re: 20 Horrible Songs Made By Great Rappers

Postby CrashBand » Jul 3rd, '13, 19:55

The only problem with We Made You, and it's a valid criticism, is that it's the same old shit, but not as good.

Oh look J.K Rowling wrote another story about wizards... and it's less impressive.
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