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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Kill You » Jul 8th, '13, 18:43

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PAINKILLƎR wrote:If you tolerate or support torture to criminals/terrorists it makes you just as much as an animal as they are. Justice is due but shit like this is the biggest wtf.


It's inexcusable to support torture of anyone, but to say you're as much of an animal as the ones that tortured the person are is too much.

No because shit like this in inhumane. All this shit is demented as fuck.


True story. I don't give a shit what these people did, you don't stoop down to that level. And they stooped even lower.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby EG. » Jul 8th, '13, 18:47

PAINKILLƎR wrote:
Jason M. wrote:
PAINKILLƎR wrote:If you tolerate or support torture to criminals/terrorists it makes you just as much as an animal as they are. Justice is due but shit like this is the biggest wtf.


It's inexcusable to support torture of anyone, but to say you're as much of an animal as the ones that tortured the person are is too much.

No because shit like this in inhumane. All this shit is demented as fuck.

Idk if i wanna watch the video, but i agree with Painkiller 100%. Cruel methods like this one and death penalty are immoral and inhumane and i dont even get how people can support it.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Slim Fiasco » Jul 8th, '13, 18:54

I agree with Menzo, stepping down to their level won't fix anything, the good guy should be the better man. Now sure, if someone kills your family or something you want to torture them in the worse way possible, but that won't undo the crime and at the end it doesn't make you feel better. As for Mos, it was really touching for him to do this and I hope that it will help at least a bit.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Supershade » Jul 8th, '13, 19:35

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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Atone » Jul 8th, '13, 19:39

Aone10 wrote:That's the thing about Guantanamo, it's a prison. Sure, there are terrorist imprisoned there, but there are also people suspected of being terrorists, meaning they haven't been found guilty.

Foreigners need to read up on the Patriot Act and the NDAA so they can see how easy the American government can justify putting you in a prison like Guantanamo Bay. It's the same reason the secret service paid a visit to Atone. It's getting ridiculous and it is very unconstitutional.


No they came to visit me cuz i said some dumb shit on the internet that i should not have, it's one thing to make jokes about people, it's another to make jokes about threats to the daughters of the leader, i understand all threats should be taken serious, and it was stupid of me to make those jokes.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Despicable » Jul 8th, '13, 19:57

It wasnt that bad.
Starving themselves to death must be more painful than being forced-fed.

Either the terrorists eat their normal food or they get force fed.
What the fuck are the guards suppose to do if they dont wanna eat? They have no other choice but to feed them that way.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby EminemBase » Jul 8th, '13, 20:18

That's gross yo.

Side note: Mos is an idiot.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby TonyTilt » Jul 8th, '13, 20:22

Revolutionary wrote:
TonyTilt wrote:I believe in an eye for an eye, someone tortures somebody I believe they should be tortured in the same way.

But the funny thing is that those "terrorists" never tortured anybody, they only bomb/kill people.

Not to forget the fact that most of those people aren't even terrorists.

I'd read up on Guantanamo if I were you (bigray), pretty shocking stuff.


I personally would put the ones that did bomb and kill people in a room and just toss a grenade in it and shut the door.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Elision » Jul 8th, '13, 20:28

Damn, that straight made him cry. This shit is no joke :n:
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 8th, '13, 21:12

I still dont understand this, can someone spare a moment and explain? i watched the video
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Arrinef » Jul 8th, '13, 21:14

holy fuckin tits. How was i unaware of this?
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Elision » Jul 8th, '13, 21:19

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:I still dont understand this, can someone spare a moment and explain? i watched the video
Guantanamo Bay is a US detainment facility located in cuba. It's known for mistreating its residents. And there's been a recent hunger strike by some of the prisoners. The video is what they're starting to do to them.
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 8th, '13, 21:33

I know what Guantanamo Bay is, but whats the thing they stuck up his nose? and there's more to this right? he just wanted them to stop, they force feed them meat i guess, its just wrong, a life sentence is enough...
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby Elision » Jul 8th, '13, 21:53

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:whats the thing they stuck up his nose?
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Re: Mos Def force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedur

Postby AbramIsaac » Jul 8th, '13, 23:42

The problem with some of you people is that you can't seem to see past your nationalistic knee-jerk reactions. Most of the people that have watched the video understand that this is wrong. Some of you have replied with "Oh, well...they're terrorists, who cares?".

Here's the problem with that ignorant statement: there's no way for us to know if they are all actually terrorists. Since there's no due process--at least not the type afforded to most people accused of crimes--it's difficult to determine who is innocent and who is guilty. Furthermore, since the military-style trials that these people are put through don't always result in a guilty verdict, it seems as though indefinite detention may be preferable to those who believe everyone there is a dangerous terrorist. Regardless of whether or not there would be sufficient proof to show that in a court of law.

Beyond that, what are they guilty of? Is Atone an ignorant asshole? Absolutely. Does that mean he deserves to be tortured in Guantanimo for running his mouth, because he's too stupid to know what not to say? Probably not. The problem with you people that don't seem to care about human rights "as long as it's those people" is that you don't take into account that with time, what's considered acceptable can change. Your political discussions now could have been considered sedition during the World War. Seeing the way the Patriot Act changed our entire outlook on privacy and personal freedom, it's not a gigantic leap to think that the future could hold a similar set of circumstances.

When they start locking up assholes like some of the people here for running their mouths too much, something tells me that people might start re-evaluating their stance on indefinite detention for terrorists. Because what's considered a "terrorist" can change, with time.
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