Tech N9ne needs to put much more substance in his songs

by **fifflaren** » Jul 17th, '13, 18:44

Tech N9ne is above average

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:Tech is overrated on Trshady.

by **Mr Change** » Jul 17th, '13, 18:46

Please. This is the forum where people have claimed Relapse is a 10/10 album and defend it up and down. What isn't overrated on this website?

by **Elision** » Jul 17th, '13, 20:03

Rattle1 wrote:Lel, he can't be an elite MC if his albums suck major dicks.

What more would you have wanted from, say, Killer? And while there may have been the weak features, every Tech verse on 6's & 7's is bulletproof.

Amadeo wrote:The Jokerr raps circles around Tech N9ne. He mocked Tech N9ne's style/delivery, did it even better, and still managed to break the style down in words while he was doing it. Game over.

So biting one verse of an artist is rapping circles around them? All he did was take the template of mental giant and reword it. He never actually dissed Tech directly.

Also, you can't "mock Tech's style" because he doesn't have one. 'Tech N9ne' by definition means all-styles. The complete technique of rhyme who can pull off any style you'd like. And he's done every style in the book up to this point, that's why as of All 6's & 7's his flows have been so cosmic. He's fucking bored at this point. If you really wanted to diss Tech by using his own strengths against him, you'd have manage to come up with crazier flows and rhymes than him. Anybody can reword a pre-written track.

Amadeo wrote:He's obviously going for a marketable image. He should have picked a more original name if he wants to blow up though.

Tech makes it a point to only get bigger through his songs, stage show and nothing more. He feels that getting there through fake ass marketing techniques and other non-musical strategies is cheating. That's why all of his effort is put into the stage show, that's his primary strategy for growth -- literally going to everybodies town and politicking.

Also, his name was given to him by an OG rapper from KC named Black Walt. Tech didn't pick it.

by **Elision** » Jul 17th, '13, 20:06

My bad if he was

by **MistaVijilantee** » Jul 18th, '13, 00:28

People act like Tech can't sing, act like he can't harmonize.
Arguably, he can do it better than the Jokerr because he doesn't sound like a pubescent 12 year old when he sings, lol.
The only Jokerr songs I've heard that I was REALLY impressed with were the disses he's done. Maybe he should just go into the battle scene, lol?
He'll never be the MC Tech is purely because he has never rocked a stage show in his life whereas Tech has been doing it for 20 years plus.
So, in conclusion, Tech's worst album is better than Jokerrs best.
Fuck him.

by **Willy** » Jul 18th, '13, 01:07

MistaVijilantee wrote:People act like Tech can't sing, act like he can't harmonize.
Arguably, he can do it better than the Jokerr because he doesn't sound like a pubescent 12 year old when he sings, lol.
The only Jokerr songs I've heard that I was REALLY impressed with were the disses he's done. Maybe he should just go into the battle scene, lol?
He'll never be the MC Tech is purely because he has never rocked a stage show in his life whereas Tech has been doing it for 20 years plus.
So, in conclusion, Tech's worst album is better than Jokerrs best.
Fuck him.

Being an MC has everything to do with live shows.

by **Wallace** » Jul 18th, '13, 01:36

Tech is definitely a good rapper. At least. Few rappers can do the way he does, technically and musically.
If you pay attention, he is more likely to sound foolish on some songs that were made in a hurry. He writes in a strange way, but his rhyming is well-done and he has content on a good bit of his songs.
Even his party songs are still better than what we hear on the radio. Generally, he sounds good.

I just have a problem with his constant releasing of projects and re-usin concepts. An even if you consider that, literally every album of him has a great song. At least one.

Also, he's one of the few rappers I heard, until today, that remain hungry and makin' effort.

by **King Lance** » Jul 18th, '13, 01:57

I consider him as an entertainer tbh.

I just hate artists who rhyme for the sake of rhyming...the only way I'd find him good is if I completely ignore lyricism and only look at the technical aspect of his flow

by **Accor** » Jul 18th, '13, 15:42

Amadeo wrote:Critters sit and shiver in the slit of zillas pit of killers, gritters hit a click of silly niggas are fictitious

holy shit he actually said that lol :'(

by **Wallace** » Jul 18th, '13, 16:34

Everybody, notice how Amadeo gets a few lines to say Tech doesn't make sense.
And the way he ignores that rhyming too much ALWAYS takes a toll on meaning, which Tech manages to make it only for a few sentences.

And then, notice how he never mentions the whole / general meaning of the songs. You can guess what the song is about, most of the times, for the title.

By the way, the whole lyrics of He's a mental giant:

(He's a mental giant) They said i was a narcissist
(He's a mental giant) Well narcissist THIS!
(He's a mental giant)TRICK!
Yeah! STRANGE MUSIC BABY!

He's a mental giant, that's what they say
He's a mental giant to those whom may say
Oh... oh... oh... oh.oh
Hey! hey!

Hey! I'm lookin' down on you niggas
Even though I'm 5'8″ & 195 pound on you niggas
So tall I can't even hear any of the sound you deliver
Me and my partners never see any of the hateful frowning you give us

Cause' we smile at the bitty braggin' wack rappers
Who happen to be the best at the gat master
But down to the simple fact here's a strap past ya ta blast at ya
That after, the gap put him in the casket, last chapter, that's laughter
Half past moving fast when imagine a black Dracula
Smashin' 'em with a gat to bust at you

It went to my head as my first time
To be cocky, I'm just a giant when I burst rhyme
My leg is humongous, is ya'll's verse mine?
Step on the mic I can't stop my leg like Robert Cline

Giant robot make you feel very low shamed
I am so hot in my skills there be propane
Why am I gonna squash 'em and kill every poor thing?
Cause I'm a huge... pillberry dough man

He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE
He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE
He's a mental giant, that's what they say
He's a mental giant to those whom may say
Oh... oh... oh... oh.oh
Hey! hey!

Narcissistic, hard to grip it,
Dark and wicked, art's prolific,
Mars with the stars, this is far lifted,
Lyrics quit the bar with it, bar scriptures are terrific

Getta spitta witta bit of bitter marketing'
With sqrilla with a fifth of henny liquor, start to twist it
Critters sit and shiver in the slit of zillas pit of killas, gritters hit a clique of silly niggas are fictitious
On the top of the game, I'm dropping the rain, godly gifted
Hope in ya lane, and stomping ya fame, bark is vicious
You got bars to witness, yall submissive
When I get ya brains, ya thoughts is shifted
I'm incredible, highly technical meant for triumph, raw intricate
I need medical then more science, scars and stitches
Alphabetical gems blow by him, pause it a bit.
Tech n9ne a mental giant!

He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE!!!
He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE!!!
He's a mental giant, that's what they say
He's a mental giant to those whom may say
Oh... oh... oh... oh.oh
Hey! hey!

Mentally I'm like shaq on stilts
Strange music inc is white and black and built
For keeping' rap on tilt
Like drinkin' Patron and jack prone then yack on silk quilts
Gotta fat dome that'll last long if that's where I'm skill't

Giant, huge, humongous, gigantic, expanded
Been floatin' for years and I ain't landed
Haters can't stand it the way that my noggin as big as Kansas
But the women that listenin' wanna know if I be talkin' bout my damn dick

He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE!!!
He's a mental giant, TECH N9NE!!!
He's a mental giant, that's what they say
He's a mental giant to those whom may say
Oh... oh... oh... oh.oh
Hey! hey!

Yadda, they think my head big... Ask her if my head big. Haha, yadda! Yeah, Tech N9ne!

its a braggadocio song. Where he uses metaphors to compare himself to a giant. What is so hard to understand?

I recommend to use rapgenius.com

by **Willy** » Jul 18th, '13, 17:11

Tech nine sucks

by **fifflaren** » Jul 18th, '13, 17:50

Amadeo wrote:
Elision wrote:So biting one verse of an artist is rapping circles around them? All he did was take the template of mental giant and reword it. He never actually dissed Tech directly.

Also, you can't "mock Tech's style" because he doesn't have one.

Yes, he does. His style is all about humping the beat like a dog in heat like he does on Worldwide Choppers. He may as well just be an instrument in the background...he's not saying anything, but at least each syllable is landing on a drum sound.

By the way, he didn't re-word Tech N9ne's "He's a Mental Giant" verse. All he did was take the phrase "dark and wicked" that Tech N9ne used, and added a couple of his own forced rhymes.

Otherwise, it's an original piece of work and it's not a direct parody...even though you can tell The Jokerr is basing some of his observations on the Mental Giant verse (for example, the use of nonsensical rhyming and "predictable patterning" where he keeps returning to a recurring rhyme scheme at the end of each stanza or bar).

Tech N9ne's "He's a Mental Giant" verse is utter nonsense/meaningless, while The Jokerr's mock-verse actually makes sense...which is hard to do when you're attempting such a ridiculous flow.

What's a "cosmic flow"? It's large, like the universe?

Tech N9ne writes shit like "Critters sit and shiver in the slit of zillas pit of killers, gritters hit a click of silly niggas are fictitious." Nothing about this is crazy. When you're allowed to cherry pick words from English based on how they sound, and not on what they mean, it's a fucking easy game.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
His lyrics are straight garbage in most of his songs. Dumb people are impressed by his technical ability, but fail to see that he is just rhyming syllables with very little meaning and little sense.

by **Wallace** » Jul 20th, '13, 04:14

Amadeo wrote:
Wallace wrote:And the way he ignores that rhyming too much ALWAYS takes a toll on meaning

What is "rhyming too much"?

And surely if Tech N9ne is "rhyming too much" as you say...that's a bad thing, right?

I can't deny he focus too much on rhyming. But I see most of you select few lines and say the whole songs have no meaning. It's a lie.

You can even say the meaning is hollow, the lyrics say nothin relevant, whatever you imagine. But say it's nonsense is stupid, any rapgenius can show you the meaning of the lyrics. You can try understand too.

I know I understand. I can get each and every song, even the ones that are pure braggadocio and showin off.
Honestly, It's harder to do a song with no meaning at all instead of puttin it some meaning. It's basic on writing of any text, includin lyrics.

by **Arrinef** » Jul 20th, '13, 04:28

lmao at the op for not being illmatic stans/ tech can spit whether its to your liking or not dude has substance.
At times i feel tech is overrated, but he can hold his own

by **Willy** » Jul 20th, '13, 04:29

he's just not a good lyricist:

Lodi dodi, I'm at the party
On a drunk night with a punk
Might dude wanna pick a fight because he's sorry...
That he aint Gotti, Like I be
Cause he sloppy, Not me
Costly rocks be spot free

like... nah shun. here's a good lyricist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqCxuJHC4bU

aww yeah

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