*Controversial* Is Kanye top 5 worthy?

[EminemBase]

BUT DOES KANYE HAVE THE BEST BEARD EVER?

Nope and neither does Yela now.

He probably listened to Jimmy or was the label's whipping boy again, I can just imagine it...

(Jimmy and co) "Yela you're gonna have to lose the beard if you want us to promote your album. We need a clean-shaven look to appeal to young girls, you look too... homeless"

"Okay, sure thing sir, yes sir, anything you say sir. Just make me a star. "

Just like with Em...

"Yo I'm doing what the fuck I like, I don't give a fuck, I never gave a fuck yo, but this time I mean it and I'm just doing me and doing whatever the fuck I please" = Relapse.

(Jimmy and co.) = "Hmm, okay Em but... there's no hits on this album, so we're gonna at least need those - so... put CAB on there as it was a #1... make another goofy 1st single... and... hmmm, stick an old-Em kinda song on there (Beautiful) so we have a safety hit, okay boy?"

"Yes sir. "

=== Album Reactions Come In ===

(Jimmy and co) "Right Em, this is bullshit... you got below 60 on Metacritic, sold less than Jay did in his 1st week for his comeback album, and people generally dislike... your weird flow and ideas"

"Oh shit... I want to be liked and loved, and I care so much what everybody thinks about me even though I've made a career out of 'not giving a fuck'... okay sir, I'm sorry sir - I'll be good now I promise. Just bring in all those hot producers and stars you've wanted me to work with over the years, and I'll be a good boy and work with all of them. And I'll even apologize to everyone, you have my word! "

(Jimmy and co) "That's ma boy (as inserting penis).

===

Mother fucker. Em - you cunt, you better produce something pure this time and not compromise even a single song you fucking coward. Be a real artist ffs.

[EminemBase]

Lol Embase you just said you don't agree than you said yela can rap and sing way better.

Yeah, I don't agree that he makes better songs.

I said I don't agree, implying with the closing statement...

Then justified. I agree he has way more ability, not that he's made better songs though.

Sure but it depends on peoples taste right? Ill listen to Yela more than Kanye and I like his style more.

I'll agree that Kanye has made better albums than Yela but again I'll take Yelas tapes over Kanye any day.

Not just style-wise though, because I'm a big Yela fan as you know, so I'd rather listen to a classic Yela album (if he can make it) than a classic Kanye album...

But as of right now, Kanye has just written about things which, mean more and sustain more, what has Yela really made? All he's really done thus far is rap his ass off...

He has some good individual songs but hasn't made anything truly lasting yet, despite me being one of his biggest advocates and despite me thinking he'll go down as a special artist yo.

[PAINKILLƎR]

EmBase fell off.

[EminemBase]

EmBase is gawd.

[PAINKILLƎR]

Naw, you're just a mere mortal.

[EminemBase]

Naw, you're just a mere mortal.

iGod.

[Shameek]

He lost his top10 spot the day he released Yeezus

[CrashBand]

It's so stupid splitting up "best rapper" and best "hip-hop artist" when talking about goats, but whatever.

[momentsgolden]

Eminem
Tupac
Biggie
Jay Z
Nas

All have had a bigger impact than Kanye so that metric immediately falls off.

[Fleka]

Eminem
Tupac
Biggie
Jay Z
Nas

All have had a bigger impact than Kanye so that metric immediately falls off.

How did biggie have a bigger impact than Kanye? Biggie had 3 albums... People only like to say biggie had a big impact because of the beef with Pac... same with em and cannabis.

[Fleka]

Aha, ok, that is different.

[Ku53v]

Current Kanye is one of the worst rappers i've ever heard. I hate his beats too, overproduced pretentious bullshit.

[EminemBase]

Current Kanye is one of the worst rappers i've ever heard. I hate his beats too, overproduced pretentious bullshit.

yeah he's completely changed although I did like I Am A God, Send It Up, New Slaves, Bound 2 and Black Skinheads.. but I do agree that he slipped a little on the album but he made it in 2 months.

And it shows.

I think his raps showed he has no exciting new ideas left... he has endless ways to reinvent himself visually and musically due to his vast array of influences from every corner of society, but I think he's out of interesting things to say, or interesting ways to say them... which is why the focus was SO much on the music more than ever and I think it was a lack of ideas disguised as minimalism. I think he probably even convinced himself he wanted to say nothing lmao.

And before anybody says "I don't get it", no, I very much do... I completely got his stripped down vibe and have yearned for a rapper to embrace minimalism in their music again since Em... hasn't for about 12 years now. But Yeezus wasn't it... two good songs, some interesting sounds, but overall - a highly overrated collection of nothing which critics have so...

I mean, the overpraise right now for Kanye is at an all-time high and similar to the level of critical analysis of Em around Relapse... Eminem raps AMAZINGLY on Relapse and is funny and creative, and the music is fantastic and it's consistent as fuck... Kanye raps fucking terribly on Yeezus if and when he can be fucked, he says nothing in really uninteresting ways with more racist, repetitive rambling about an era he hasn't lived through but yearns to have been a martry in... and I've read critics pour over the ridiculous lines as complex genius, LMAO. And then talk away Em's layered, delicate, sublime lyrical detail (no, not just rhymes and flow) as inane or dated.

Yeezus is aiyt for a song or two, but then just poo.

[Trimss]

He wrote like 5 songs in two hours I think.