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Postby Shady-Yo » Aug 7th, '13, 16:30

HOLY SHIT! TECH N9NE! Every time i hear that flow and rhyme patterns in FRAGILE I have goosebumps. The verse is unbelievable!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bM3I5r7bto

+ SOMETHING ELSE is getting really good reviews and i completely agree with that
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby guesswhosback08 » Aug 7th, '13, 16:42

yeah something else is really good
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby dark111 » Aug 7th, '13, 16:49

The only part of the song that gives me goosebumps is the Kendrick's verse tbh
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby Despicable » Aug 7th, '13, 20:36

I only liked Straight Out The Gate,Fragile,Fortune Force Filed and Believe.
Believe sounds just like Airplanes with B.o.B,the beginning of the song is almost the same.
Cry babies,maybe my way that i use words is loose
but you turds better be careful how you choose yours
Cause feelings scar,but egos bruise worse
And the truth hurts,shit no wonder youre sore losers
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby Trimss » Aug 7th, '13, 20:39

Tech's verse is dope but I like Kendrick's more and I also liked All 6's and 7's a lot more.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby CanadaPure » Aug 7th, '13, 20:41

I had really low expectations for Something Else, so I was pretty pleasantly surprised when I heard the album. I pretty much enjoyed the whole thing straight through, save for a couple songs.

Straight Out The Gate is probably one of my favorite Tech songs, currently.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby fifflaren » Aug 7th, '13, 20:46

Trimss wrote:Tech's verse is dope but I like Kendrick's more and I also liked All 6's and 7's a lot more.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby classthe_king » Aug 7th, '13, 20:50

I can't stand Tech N9ne's verse on that song. The beat doesn't compliment him at all and his verse starts off really flat. You can feel it start to pick up and he gets more energy when he starts the "When I rhyme I put everything in a flow" part but the lyrics are still terrible and hold back whatever flow and delivery he might have.
"Critics are really the enemy and I
Can't stand the way they slam today's gifted
Effin' incredible, get fanned away with grands to pay
This jam will lay scripted
Deaf and impeccable"

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music. Kendrick was great though
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby Shameek » Aug 7th, '13, 21:00

StayWideAwake wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I can't stand Tech N9ne's verse on that song. The beat doesn't compliment him at all and his verse starts off really flat. You can feel it start to pick up and he gets more energy when he starts the "When I rhyme I put everything in a flow" part but the lyrics are still terrible and hold back whatever flow and delivery he might have.
"Critics are really the enemy and I
Can't stand the way they slam today's gifted
Effin' incredible, get fanned away with grands to pay
This jam will lay scripted
Deaf and impeccable"

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music. Kendrick was great though

He doesn't like the way critics criticize music that he believes to be good. He's gotten bashed for being too dark for example. They get fanned away (pushed away) from success but still have debts to pay at the expense of pursuing their dream so a lot of them end up failing. I actually can't believe this had to be explained like that haha


It makes sense but tech n9ne is extremely bad at painting pictures with his lyrics.
He is just an average lyricist and it's being generous
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby classthe_king » Aug 7th, '13, 21:03

StayWideAwake wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I can't stand Tech N9ne's verse on that song. The beat doesn't compliment him at all and his verse starts off really flat. You can feel it start to pick up and he gets more energy when he starts the "When I rhyme I put everything in a flow" part but the lyrics are still terrible and hold back whatever flow and delivery he might have.
"Critics are really the enemy and I
Can't stand the way they slam today's gifted
Effin' incredible, get fanned away with grands to pay
This jam will lay scripted
Deaf and impeccable"

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music. Kendrick was great though

He doesn't like the way critics criticize music that he believes to be good. He's gotten bashed for being too dark for example. They get fanned away (pushed away) from success but still have debts to pay at the expense of pursuing their dream so a lot of them end up failing. I actually can't believe this had to be explained like that haha


I know what the verse is about and like I said, you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby CanadaPure » Aug 7th, '13, 21:09

classthe_king wrote:I know what the verse is about and like I said, you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.


There's no rule in rap that you can only use phrases that come up in day to day speech. It's an artistic medium, and like any other artistic medium, there are no real rules to follow. It's not as much nonsense as you're making it out to be, but I agree that Tech does have a tendency to reach with his phrasing so that he can stick to rhymes or his flow.

Just because you didn't understand it, or saw it as bullshit, doesn't mean that it is. Although, I'll give you the deaf and impeccable. That did feel random as fuck just to complete the rhymes.

Tech does reach, but you're also reaching to make it seem like it made no sense, when it actually did.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby Shameek » Aug 7th, '13, 21:14

CanadaPure wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I know what the verse is about and like I said, you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.


There's no rule in rap that you can only use phrases that come up in day to day speech. It's an artistic medium, and like any other artistic medium, there are no real rules to follow. It's not as much nonsense as you're making it out to be, but I agree that Tech does have a tendency to reach with his phrasing so that he can stick to rhymes or his flow.

Just because you didn't understand it, or saw it as bullshit, doesn't mean that it is. Although, I'll give you the deaf and impeccable. That did feel random as fuck just to complete the rhymes.

Tech does reach, but you're also reaching to make it seem like it made no sense, when it actually did.


Tech n9ne isn't known as a good lyricist for a good reason.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby classthe_king » Aug 7th, '13, 21:16

CanadaPure wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I know what the verse is about and like I said, you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.


There's no rule in rap that you can only use phrases that come up in day to day speech. It's an artistic medium, and like any other artistic medium, there are no real rules to follow. It's not as much nonsense as you're making it out to be, but I agree that Tech does have a tendency to reach with his phrasing so that he can stick to rhymes or his flow.

Just because you didn't understand it, or saw it as bullshit, doesn't mean that it is. Although, I'll give you the deaf and impeccable. That did feel random as fuck just to complete the rhymes.

Tech does reach, but you're also reaching to make it seem like it made no sense, when it actually did.


It's not just phrases that don't get day to day use but it's phrases that aren't even real. Fanned away is not a term, no one says it. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanned+away Adding grands to pay after it doesn't help much either. It's such awkward phrasing that no one uses. Then you have This jam will lay scripted which is borderline nonsensical. Like I said, you can take what you know and try and create meaning the meaning isn't inherently there on it's own. And it's not like metaphorical stuff where it can be interpreted different ways it's just stupid and poor lyricism.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby Shameek » Aug 7th, '13, 21:23

StayWideAwake wrote:Yes he is? I'm sure everyone's favorite rapper thinks he's a great lyricist.

lol @ something not being on urban dictionary and therefor not being real. To fan something is to wave. to fan away would to wave something away. How old are you?


?????????

No he isn't.

If we're talking about great lyricists, we're talking about Rakim, Lauryn Hill, Big Daddy Kane, Tupac, Scarface, Eminem, Nas, Jay at his prime, Joe Budden, Q-Tip, Common, if we're talking about recent great lyricists, we're talking about Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Ab-Soul,.. Tech N9ne has a great flow but has never been known as a good lyricist. He lacks quotable and metaphors, his imagery is bad and he can't paint pictures lyrically.
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Re: Tech N9ne...

Postby CanadaPure » Aug 7th, '13, 21:25

classthe_king wrote:It's not just phrases that don't get day to day use but it's phrases that aren't even real. Fanned away is not a term, no one says it. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanned+away Adding grands to pay after it doesn't help much either. It's such awkward phrasing that no one uses. Then you have This jam will lay scripted which is borderline nonsensical. Like I said, you can take what you know and try and create meaning the meaning isn't inherently there on it's own. And it's not like metaphorical stuff where it can be interpreted different ways it's just stupid and poor lyricism.


Like I said, I agree with you that he is reaching, but I disagree with you about it being total nonsense. Part of the fun with Tech's lyrics, for me at least, is trying to think about what they do mean, because he can be pretty abstract with his phrasing while he's trying to stick to a rhyme pattern or stay on beat.

It's not really creating meaning with these ones, because the phrasing isn't as random as you're making it. Being "fanned away" isn't that nonsensical. Think about it, fans (as in, an actual air circulating fan) blow shit away, they're getting pushed away. Grands to pay, a grand is a thousand dollars. The phrasing is awkward, but it still makes sense. You're making it more difficult for yourself than it needs to be.

"It's just stupid" is highly subjective based on how you take it. If I'm listening to Tech, I'm expecting some of the lyrics to be out there, and that's fine because I expect that he's going to do that.
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