Tech N9ne...

[classthe_king]

@class: Yeah some critics are assigned (appointed) to do a review of an album whether they like it or not.You CAN have the remedy for something and not have said thing completely be defeated. If critics are bashing him, yes it would be completely normal to call them his foes or enemies. You are either trying WAYYYY too hard or you are just truly not that bright. It isn't that hard. Literature must be a fucking nightmare for you man. YOU give up.

You think remedy is a weird word. I'm dying to know how old you are. Not as an insult but I really think it'll help the situation

I know what the words mean. They're all incredibly awkward when used in that context. Appointed? You appoint someone to an office. You appoint a vice president or a treasurer. You don't appoint a music critic. I mean I GUESS you could use it that way if you wanted to but it's just bad word choice. Same with all the other words.

[fifflaren]

lol Lil Wayne had better lyrics than tech, there's nothing subjective about that.

You cant claim to have credible judgement on the art of emceeing and say Wayne was never nice.You're basically admitting you don't really love hip hop. Unfortunately the past 3 years have destroyed his current reputation so people are gonna try to rewrite history like they do when all the greats fall off.

[Trimss]

lol Lil Wayne had better lyrics than tech, there's nothing subjective about that.

You cant claim to have credible judgement on the art of emceeing and say Wayne was never nice.You're basically admitting you don't really love hip hop. Unfortunately the past 3 years have destroyed his current reputation so people are gonna try to rewrite history like they do when all the greats fall off.

Past 3 years? More like past 5 years at least. And yes, it's subjective. Lol at judgment on the art of emceeing. Tech on KOD or Anghellic was at least as good as Wayne was on The Carter 2. Rhymes, melodies, subject matter, originality..

[King Lance]

Really? I hear more Pac (story telling ability) than I hear Wayne in Kendrick tbh but ya I do like some of Wayne's older stuff. He can have a dope flow on some of his newer music as well but for myself a rapper's flow isn't what initially attracts me, it's the over all song lyrics, flow, voice, message if its that type of song etc and Wayne is far from cadence imo

Has Kendrick and Wayne worked together?

Twice, when he was young (mixtapes)=p

Actually, Wayne used to be one of his mentors, he was always in the studio with Jay Rock and Kdot

[King Lance]

Really? I hear more Pac (story telling ability) than I hear Wayne in Kendrick tbh but ya I do like some of Wayne's older stuff. He can have a dope flow on some of his newer music as well but for myself a rapper's flow isn't what initially attracts me, it's the over all song lyrics, flow, voice, message if its that type of song etc and Wayne is far from cadence imo

Has Kendrick and Wayne worked together?

Twice when he was young (mixtapes)=p

Actually, Wayne used to be one of his mentors, he was always in the studio with Jay Rock and Kdot and everybody thought that Wayne was going to sign them on YMCMB

[classthe_king]

@class: Who are you to determine "bad word choice" a literary teacher? college professor? poet? writer of any kind? what gives you the credibility to decide objectively that those words just downright don't belong there?

I'm a listener. That's all I need to be. If you're going to sit here and say "When a foe scribed a line" isn't terrible wording then you're just blinded by your desire to defend Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne is a bad lyricist and no one in this thread has said anything that proves otherwise other than making poor attempts to explain bad lines.

And yes, Wayne is a better lyricist than Tech N9ne. At least he made sense.

If I don't get it somebody gonna die tonight
I know my vibe is tight
And I deserve the throne and if the kid ain't right
Then let me die on this song, see I be riding just riding alone
With my daddy on my mind like you gotta be kidding
How the hell you ain't here to see a prince do his thing
Sometimes I wanna drop a tear but no emotions from a king

[Mr Change]

The 'these words aren't used much therefore they completely suck and are nonsensical' argument was stupid itself.

Now people claiming Wayne is better than Tech.



I'm done.

[King Lance]

Actually, Wayne used to be one of his mentors, he was always in the studio with Jay Rock and Kdot

I can hear the Lil Wayne influence in Kendrick Lamar, definitely.

I hope your talking about the flow/cadence, don't come here and say that they have the same lyrics, because I know you and your passion for the boy

Really? I hear more Pac (story telling ability) than I hear Wayne in Kendrick tbh but ya I do like some of Wayne's older stuff. He can have a dope flow on some of his newer music as well but for myself a rapper's flow isn't what initially attracts me, it's the over all song lyrics, flow, voice, message if its that type of song etc and Wayne is far from cadence imo

Has Kendrick and Wayne worked together?

Twice, when he was young (mixtapes)=p

Actually, Wayne used to be one of his mentors, he was always in the studio with Jay Rock and Kdot

Jay Rock is dope man I'm gonna start to get into the rest of Kendrick's crew, suggestions of what I should check out?

Oh and whats up with Jay Rock what label is he on, Strange?

Jay is on TDE/Interscope/Strange

[classthe_king]

Appointed? I wouldn't say that any critics are appointed.

Of course they are!

Remedy is also a weird word to use. Remedy to the negativity from critics? If he has the remedy why does he have the problems he says he has in this verse?

Like I said, SHOULD provide a remedy to their negativity, but it isn't working.

This is probably his worst line though. Foe? How are any critics his foes? They aren't in a battle. And then to use the word scribe? This isn't ancient Egypt. They aren't "scribing" lines.

Foe - Antagonist:

A person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something

Scribe - Verb = Write

I think those are good choices of words.

No they're not. A foe is an opponent. Someone you would be having some kind of competition against. Critics aren't his foes. Maybe Tech doesn't like them but I promise the critics don't have some kind of grudge against him. They aren't really his foes. And scribes copied down books and made records. Scribe can't just be substituted with write and mean the same thing.

[King Lance]

@big

you should listen to their indie albums/mixtapes

Ab-Soul - Control System
Schoolboy Q - Habits & Contradictions
Jay Rock - Follow Me Home

but all of them will release their first studio album this year or in 2014

[classthe_king]

The 'these words aren't used much therefore they completely suck and are nonsensical' argument was stupid itself.

Now people claiming Wayne is better than Tech.



I'm done.

Your in ability to grasp what I'm saying is baffling.

[Trimss]

Class, you don't know that a lot of critics called Tech a devil worshipper and a satanist right? And mostly judged his persona before judging his music? And that's why he's calling them foes.

That has nothing to do with your personal interpretation.

[Mr Change]

The 'these words aren't used much therefore they completely suck and are nonsensical' argument was stupid itself.

Now people claiming Wayne is better than Tech.



I'm done.

Your in ability to grasp what I'm saying is baffling.

Your inability to grasp what Tech is saying is baffling.

[King Lance]

Baby goat lyricist

If I told you I killed a nigga at 16, would you believe me?
Or see me to be innocent Kendrick that you seen in the street
With a basketball and some Now & Laters to eat
If I'm mashing all of my skeletons, would you jump in the seat?
Would you say my intelligence now is great relief?
And it's safe to say that our next generation maybe can sleep
With dreams of being a lawyer or doctor
Instead of boy with a chopper that hold the cul de sac hostage
Kill them all if they gossip, the Children of the Corn
They realizing the option of living a lie, drive they body with toxins
Constantly drinking and drive, hit the powder then watch this flame
That arrive in his eye; this a coward, the concept is aim and
They bang it and slide out that bitch with deposits
And the price on his head, the tots probably go to the projects
I live inside the belly of the rough
Compton, U.S.A. made Me an Angel on Angel Dust, what

[classthe_king]

@class: Who are you to determine "bad word choice" a literary teacher? college professor? poet? writer of any kind? what gives you the credibility to decide objectively that those words just downright don't belong there?

I'm a listener. That's all I need to be. If you're going to sit here and say "When a foe scribed a line" isn't terrible wording then you're just blinded by your desire to defend Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne is a bad lyricist and no one in this thread has said anything that proves otherwise other than making poor attempts to explain bad lines.

And yes, Wayne is a better lyricist than Tech N9ne. At least he made sense.

If I don't get it somebody gonna die tonight
I know my vibe is tight
And I deserve the throne and if the kid ain't right
Then let me die on this song, see I be riding just riding alone
With my daddy on my mind like you gotta be kidding
How the hell you ain't here to see a prince do his thing
Sometimes I wanna drop a tear but no emotions from a king

My 9 year old little brother is a listener. That doesn't mean he has any intelligence or credibility. Any idiot can be a listener it does not mean they are right or know what they are taking about. Honestly there is no way you read books or poetry or anyfuckingthing other than TRshady and are caught up by those phrases. Read the Illiad. Your brain will fucking explode.

Your entire argument right now is a fallacy