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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 02:55

classthe_king wrote:Yeah Oliver Hart was produced all by himself. He said it was him just learning how to produce and fucking around with it. And I'm not sure, I looked it up once and thought it was from a movie but I can't remember if it was the Exhausted Love skits or Paradise ones.
Must've been the Paradise ones, because I've struggled to find the Exhaustive Love quotes.

And have you ever seen the interview where he talks about his newest album? He made it sound incredible and it makes me sad every time I read it :'(
Nah, I'll watch it now. That sucks so much, I'd do terrible things to get a new Eyedea album.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 02:56

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classthe_king wrote:It's not like Eyedea doesn't have a ton of unique and original lines too though and the fact that it's a double entendre and has multiple meanings only makes it more impressive

They're not double entendres though, they're metaphors he didn't even think of.

Actually that's a lie, of course they are as metaphors generally are because there is a literal meaning and a metaphorical one. So that's my bad. But could you post some original ones?


How did he not think of them? The new metaphors are completely different than the old ones. You can lead a horse to fresh water but you can't teach it how to be okay when you decide to leave is my favorite line of all time. It's new meaning isn't anything like it's old meaning.

I found the interview

The new record that I started working on…the whole theme is kind of, there’s a guitar player somewhere in there. So in between the rap tunes, I’m gonna play acoustic guitar and a few of my songs that way. And I think one of the things that has evolved with that idea is now, I’m at a point where—and the only thing I feel comfortable doing this with is Oliver Hart—but with that kind of project, I’m at a point where I feel comfortable kind of blending and melting things together, and kind of bringing the guitar in and bringing singing in a little more. There probably is no other place in my musical boxes I’ve created where I’d be comfortable having a sub-plot of just acoustic guitar and singing. So I think it’s evolved in that way. I might even have some Face Candy stuff on there, who knows…It’s just gonna be kind of collage-y. And actually, the idea is, it’s all at a show, and the show has three performers: Micheal Larsen, Eyedea, and Oliver Hart. So in between all the actually written, composed, produced songs—rap songs, I guess—there’s gonna be these characters, Eyedea, Oliver Hart, and Micheal Larsen, playing guitar and singing. So it’s gonna be pretty fun.


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I guess the best advice I could ever give anyone is have an open mind…Don’t be a purist. Be a pure person, and have an open mind about things. Especially in a lot of ways, your own destiny...Understand that you as a person are a lot more than you think you are. You have a lot more power as a person. And I mean power in a good way. Power to be connected. Power to uplift. Power to make people smile. Power to find out how to smile for yourself. All that is in all of us, and I think what’s important is to learn those things, discover those things. One of the best ways to do that is to attempt to quiet yourself enough to understand human suffering. Understand your pain. Understand your jealousy. Understand that all the things that you despise, you are. You are war. I have a friend who’s not interested in politics, really not interested in everything, and he’s kind of a selfish prick. He’s one of my best friends. We were driving by Macalaster [College] one day, and you know sometimes there’s people up there on the corners protesting, you know, bring home the troops. And he just yells out, “Fuck you, fuckin’…” Just screaming at these people as we drive by. And I’m like, dude, what are you doing? And he’s like “Oh, I’m just trying to see how many people I can get with peace signs to wanna fight me.” 'Cause that’s the whole thing: you are a human being that is in conflict. You are suffering, and you are part of this whole thing that is human suffering. You are also part of joy, and the escape from suffering, which is pleasure—the things that we find that block us from dealing with suffering. But I think it’s really important to just sit down with yourself sometimes and understand that you’re not angry, you’re experiencing what it is to be anger. And that’s what everyone has, that’s why we kill each other. And how do we ever stop killing each other if we always are escaping from killing each other, [escaping] from the problem. We Band-Aid it, we candy it up. We run from it. We say, “I don’t want war,” so we protest. But are you not still in conflict, is the big question. Maybe you’re not, I don’t know; there are people that aren’t. But when somebody steps on your shoe and you feel threatened and you feel violated, you understand what war is. You understand it at its core. If you’ve ever felt like you wanted to hurt somebody or punch somebody…You understand it all. That’s what people in power are: just human beings. It just so happens they have a bunch of power and the ability and wit to manipulate other people. But so do I. That’s all in me, too, see. So I think it’s really important, if we’re ever going to get past this current way we live as people, we have to look at it. That’s the biggest thing. I have to say, I am sad. I am jealous. I am angry. Not these people are, and that’s wrong. Not even I am, and that’s wrong. 'Cause when you bring in “that’s wrong,” that’s when you start escaping: [saying] I shouldn’t feel sad, I shouldn’t be angry about this. Sit down with anger, with your suffering, and look at it and understand what it really is…And that’s how you get beyond it.


Just reading that makes me miss him so much
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 03:02

I agree that it's probably easier to alter existing metaphors, and add a new meaning, than create a completely new one. Although, it's still very impressive. And they're still original.

But either way, his ones are great.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby SliK » Aug 8th, '13, 03:05

Yeah I understand that he tweaked the expression a bit to give it a new meaning, but you could literally go:

You can lead a horse to water but can't teach it how to (insert literally anything here).

See what I mean?
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 03:07

Yeah but the way he did it is genius and has so much power and meaning. He expressed a whole world's suffering and pain with only a simple line. The first time I heard that line it really struck a chord with me.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby Willy » Aug 8th, '13, 03:11

I gave 'By the Throat' a go and didn't like it bar a few tracks... Hmm.. Would you say that's his best album? I'm willing to listen to another.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 03:13

Willy wrote:I gave 'By the Throat' a go and didn't like it bar a few tracks... Hmm.. Would you say that's his best album? I'm willing to listen to another.

Yeah, it's probably his best, although his most experimental.

E&A definitely has more of an original hip-hop feel, and Many Faces of Oliver Hart has more easy-listening production and more storytelling.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby Willy » Aug 8th, '13, 03:15

Ahh I think you nailed it with the easy-listening production as I thought 'By the Throat' was very noisy. I'll try n' listen tomorrow.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 03:16

Crashband did you read the quotes I posted?
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 03:27

classthe_king wrote:Crashband did you read the quotes I posted?

Yeah, that album would've been on some Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band shit.

And yeah, I love his interviews, at times, even as much as his music. He'd be great to have discussions with.

That’s the biggest thing. I have to say, I am sad. I am jealous. I am angry. Not these people are, and that’s wrong. Not even I am, and that’s wrong. 'Cause when you bring in “that’s wrong,” that’s when you start escaping: [saying] I shouldn’t feel sad, I shouldn’t be angry about this. Sit down with anger, with your suffering, and look at it and understand what it really is…And that’s how you get beyond it.
Sounds like a revelation probably while on acid. I've heard a similar description about emotions from one of my friends.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 03:33

CrashBand wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Crashband did you read the quotes I posted?

Yeah, that album would've been on some Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band shit.

And yeah, I love his interviews, at times, even as much as his music. He'd be great to have discussions with.


I agree 100% I would love to just sit and have lunch with him and pick his brain. He has such fascinating thoughts.

That’s the biggest thing. I have to say, I am sad. I am jealous. I am angry. Not these people are, and that’s wrong. Not even I am, and that’s wrong. 'Cause when you bring in “that’s wrong,” that’s when you start escaping: [saying] I shouldn’t feel sad, I shouldn’t be angry about this. Sit down with anger, with your suffering, and look at it and understand what it really is…And that’s how you get beyond it.
Sounds like a revelation probably while on acid. I've heard a similar description about emotions from one of my friends.


It's basically the philosophy of J. Krishnamurti. I've read a couple of his books and they're really good.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 03:42

Willy wrote:Ahh I think you nailed it with the easy-listening production as I thought 'By the Throat' was very noisy. I'll try n' listen tomorrow.

Here's Bottle Dreams with lyrics. Production throughout is pretty similar.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 03:45

Am I the only one that doesn't like Bottle Dreams? I mean, it's a good song but not for an Eyedea song. It's probably my least favorite of his songs behind Liquid Sovereignty
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby CrashBand » Aug 8th, '13, 03:46

Now is an example of fast rapping whilst saying something. Along with the third verse of this Tech N9ne diss, which you should check out class.
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Re: Favourite Eyedea songs.

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '13, 03:52

I've heard it, I've never liked the Jokerr tho
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