Tech N9ne...

[Elision]

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music.

you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.

You may be the dumbest english-speaking person I've ever met. I don't believe you're actually this stupid. Cut the shit.

I'll just write out those bars in sentence form for you, not that it will make any more sense to you, because you're a fucking idiot, but I'm not sure what else to do: I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted rappers, it's fucking incredible. They get fanned away (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh5pkvgRf31qgt9yy.gif) even though they bring thousands of dollars to get played. This song will describe it with style and perfection.

It makes sense but tech n9ne is extremely bad at painting pictures with his lyrics.

He very isn't. Would you like some examples? Meant to Happen is a great place to start.

Fuck, he isn't even known as a top lyricist of this generation: Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Ab-Soul.

Lil Wayne himself would place higher than tech n9ne lol

[Mr Change]

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music.

you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.

You may be the dumbest english-speaking person I've ever met. I don't believe you're actually this stupid. Cut the shit.

I'll just write out those bars in sentence form for you, not that it will make any more sense to you, because you're a fucking idiot, but I'm not sure what else to do: I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted rappers, it's fucking incredible. They get fanned away (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh5pkvgRf31qgt9yy.gif) even though they bring thousands of dollars to get played. This song will describe it with style and perfection.

It makes sense but tech n9ne is extremely bad at painting pictures with his lyrics.

He very isn't. Would you like some examples? Meant to Happen is a great place to start.

Fuck, he isn't even known as a top lyricist of this generation: Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Ab-Soul.

Lil Wayne himself would place higher than tech n9ne lol

Don't waste your time Elision, these guys aren't even worth reasoning with.

[Willy]

The problem is Tech dilutes the effectiveness of his lines with awkward phrasings and word choice.

I want all of you Tech fans to finish this worksheet:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/ ... y_quiz.htm

[classthe_king]

Like what is he saying…those are just random words put together that might string together some vague meaning but are mostly nonsense. The whole verse is like that and it ruins his music.

you can string along some vague meaning throughout it but it's mostly bullshit. I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted. Effin incredible. Get fanned away with grands to pay. This jam will lay scripted. Deaf and impeccable. No one can say that makes any sense. It's just words thrown together. Get fanned away with grands to pay? That's complete nonsense. I guess you can say that fanned away means pushed away but no one says that in real conversation. But what does that have to do with grands to pay? Then you have this jam will lay scripted which makes even less sense. How can a jam lay? And no one scripts jam. No one would ever use those words like that he just did it cause they rhyme. And then he just has the random words deaf and impeccable which have nothing to do with each other and you have no idea what he's referring to.It's all bullshit and not clear at all and you have to reach for meaning big time.

You may be the dumbest english-speaking person I've ever met. I don't believe you're actually this stupid. Cut the shit.

I'll just write out those bars in sentence form for you, not that it will make any more sense to you, because you're a fucking idiot, but I'm not sure what else to do: I can't stand the way they slam today's gifted rappers, it's fucking incredible. They get fanned away (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh5pkvgRf31qgt9yy.gif) even though they bring thousands of dollars to get played. This song will describe it with style and perfection.

It makes sense but tech n9ne is extremely bad at painting pictures with his lyrics.

He very isn't. Would you like some examples? Meant to Happen is a great place to start.

Fuck, he isn't even known as a top lyricist of this generation: Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Ab-Soul.

Lil Wayne himself would place higher than tech n9ne lol

Good job dipshit but we already established that we know what Tech is trying to say, rather that since it's a clusterfuck of terrible word choice, poor grammar and terribly awkward phrasing that Tech is horrible at executing what he was trying to say. Your post made me laugh though.

[CrashBand]

Me love Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne damage man. Tech N9ne damage man every damn minute.

[CrashBand]

Saying something simple in a complex way isn't hard. Saying something complex in a simple way is much more impressive

This nigga listens to Slug.

[Accor]

I do indeed.

[LIL_B]

I do indeed.

[CrashBand]

I also think Slug takes mundane (simple) things and brings amazing life to them (not necessarily complexity I suppose).

A great example is the first 16 bars of Always Coming Back Home To You.

[classthe_king]

I also think Slug takes mundane (simple) things and brings amazing life to them (not necessarily complexity I suppose).

A great example is the first 16 bars of Always Coming Back Home To You.

That's what makes Slug so good. Always Coming Back Home To You is a top 5 Atmosphere song to me.

Another artist who does that really well is Josh Darnielle. He has a song that goes

The first time I made coffee for just myself I made too much of it
But I drank it all just 'cause you hate it when I let things go to waste

He says so much with so little. He takes such a simple concept and makes it incredibly powerful. That's great lyricism.

[Wallace]

I just remembered why I've left TR 5 different times, because idiots like StayWideAwake and Mr Change are too dumb to understand anything. See ya guys.

Somehow this ended with ME being too dumb to understand? What? You said words were incorrectly placed and multiple people provided evidence proving that they do make sense. You basically just said "no. It's bad word choice" somehow negating REAL definitive proof that the words make sense. But I'm dumb. But I don't understand.

Yes, you don't understand at all. I KNOW what scribe means. I know that when broken down to it's simplest form it means to write. But in the context of a music critic you would never say that he scribed his review. It's terrible word choice and makes for awkward phrasing. Like I've said a million times, it's poor and inefficient lyricism but that's obviously something you don't understand either.

Thank you accor

Well, then lets go this way:

Use ALWAYS the SAME words (write, write, write, write, write,etc).
Never search any new way to say somethin.
Don't search and use new and unexpected rhymes.
Words are stale, they can't be used with new meanings at writing, writing, writing....
Keep your phrases in a simple structure, so nobody will have to make any effort to understand.
You won't also to need to make an effort to write, write, write....
Forget that you aren't stuck in any conventional use of words when your are writing poems or music.


It's obvious. Any rapper (and anyone) who makes effort to write escapes from evident rhymes/words.
See how many times I used the same words and how bad it sounds.

"Scribe review" - The reviewer is old (with his conceptions). The songs are old (he has longevity in the game), that why he scribes. You can find good interpretations.
Try again... maybe one day the laziness will fade. Go away. Disappear. Vanish. Get lost.

So tired of hatin'.... And you say that 'nobody comes here to defend N9ne'.
Defend from.. what? HATE? Somethin irrational?

[classthe_king]

Well, then lets go this way:

Use ALWAYS the SAME words (write, write, write, write, write,etc).
Never search any new way to say somethin.
Don't search and use new and unexpected rhymes.
Words are stale, they can't be used with new meanings at writing, writing, writing....
Keep your phrases in a simple structure, so nobody will have to make any effort to understand.
You won't also to need to make an effort to write, write, write....
Forget that you aren't stuck in any conventional use of words when your are writing poems or music.


It's obvious. Any rapper (and anyone) who makes effort to write escapes from evident rhymes/words.
See how many times I used the same words and how bad it sounds.

"Scribe review" - The reviewer is old (with his conceptions). The songs are old (he has longevity in the game), that why he scribes. You can find good interpretations.
Try again... maybe one day the laziness will fade. Go away. Disappear. Vanish. Get lost.

So tired of hatin'.... And you say that 'nobody comes here to defend N9ne'.
Defend from.. what? HATE? Somethin irrational?

What the fuck are you talking about

[Wallace]

^^^You just criticized N9ne for word choice. Said he couldn't use "scribe" with the meaning of "writing".

He CAN, he's not bound to straight grammar rules. The same happens with any writer.

Or you rather get predicitive word choice?

I even added that this word might be used to add a hidden meaning on the line. "Scribe review" meaning reviewin old songs, or the critic bein' old.

The same rules applies to some people here called "odd structure" on phrasing.

You don't have to be tied by rules of grammar.

[Willy]

^^^You just criticized N9ne for word choice. Said he couldn't use "scribe" with the meaning of "writing".

He CAN, he's not bound to straight grammar rules. The same happens with any writer.

Or you rather get predicitive word choice?

I even added that this word might be used to add a hidden meaning on the line. "Scribe review" meaning reviewin old songs, or the critic bein' old.

The same rules applies to some people here called "odd structure" on phrasing.

You don't have to be tied by rules of grammar.

While that's true, it's important to note that inaccessible or awkward language can take away from what's being said. The message is the end result and language is how the message gets to the listener... if the artist chooses to use bizarre diction and language that isn't present within their audience's natural lexicon I find it within reason to deduce the aforementioned listener's ability to comprehend... yeah, see that's total bullshit. Word choice is extremely important. Two sentences can share meanings but have a completely different impact on the listener.. so people defending Tech need to shift the focus from "well this means" to "this is effective because..."

Also... "Dark and wicked" is redundant...and doesn't paint a picture in the mind. It's just filler that happens to rhyme.

Next he say's "art's prolific"... well that's troublesome because HE is definitely a prolific artist...but...his...art isn't he?...so this strays from proper usage, but let's give it to him as we kinda get what he means.

Next up:

"Mars with the stars, this is far lifted
Lyrics quit the bar with it, bar scriptures are terrific"



Well... after that I think it's safe to say that Tech is Faarrrr from gifted

hehe sorry

[Willy]

Well no one is going to give a shit because it's so convoluted and awkward Maine.