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Postby soperman005 » Jul 7th, '06, 20:55

I dont think that Eminem will ever be lyrically as good as he was in The Eminem Show, MMLP or SSLP. Encore was weak compared to his first 3. I love Eminem and I want to have faith in him but its hard when he puts out such a weak cd for him. And when you listen to his rhyme on the BET touch it remix it just reduces the amount of faith I have in him. I mean what's up with the fucking yelling in his songs like when he raps in the remix: "I'm about to scream on the top of my lungs/ And I don't even know why I'm screamin! Ahh Ahhh Ahhhh!" Why the fuck does he put the ahhh ahhh ahh in there? It was ok in just lose it when he did that shit in the hook but wtf it jus sounds horrible in the touch it remix.. And he needs to cut all the lame ass fart talk and shit.. It's not very amusing.. Sure its a lil funny and shit but thats not what i wanna listent to when i put in an eminem cd.. And his voice isnt like it used to be either.. Its like hella deep and shit now and iono i dont think it sounds as good as it used to.. Its like he's tryin to be too black now kinda i think.. Like he hella tries to make his voice more ghetto and its just not his style.. I dont know bout everyone else but I want the old Eminem back!!!!! Can he really not write good raps anymore?? Well I really hope the re-up raps are much better than Encore's.. I guess we'll have to wait to find out.
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Re: I want the old Eminem back!!!

Postby tamara » Jul 7th, '06, 22:02

danigantt wrote:
soperman005 wrote:I dont think that Eminem will ever be lyrically as good as he was in The Eminem Show, MMLP or SSLP. Encore was weak compared to his first 3. I love Eminem and I want to have faith in him but its hard when he puts out such a weak cd for him. And when you listen to his rhyme on the BET touch it remix it just reduces the amount of faith I have in him. I mean what's up with the fucking yelling in his songs like when he raps in the remix: "I'm about to scream on the top of my lungs/ And I don't even know why I'm screamin! Ahh Ahhh Ahhhh!" Why the fuck does he put the ahhh ahhh ahh in there? It was ok in just lose it when he did that shit in the hook but wtf it jus sounds horrible in the touch it remix.. And he needs to cut all the lame ass fart talk and shit.. It's not very amusing.. Sure its a lil funny and shit but thats not what i wanna listent to when i put in an eminem cd.. And his voice isnt like it used to be either.. Its like hella deep and shit now and iono i dont think it sounds as good as it used to.. Its like he's tryin to be too black now kinda i think.. Like he hella tries to make his voice more ghetto and its just not his style.. I dont know bout everyone else but I want the old Eminem back!!!!! Can he really not write good raps anymore?? Well I really hope the re-up raps are much better than Encore's.. I guess we'll have to wait to find out.




so being black means having a deep voice?? because i can think of MILLIONS of black people who don't talk with deep voices.... and HUNDREDS of mc's who rap with high voices who are black...


damn... he makes one "bad" cd... and you guys flip out.... :angry:


CALM DOWN! is he going to be able to do it?... can he really not rap anymore...? just calm down... let time tell. i don't even think the raps that everyone seems to grieving over are that bad.... i can think of a few bad songs on his other albums...


it's all about your personal taste...



i just can't wait until Em comes out with a new album and tells people like you to suck his d**k.... :thumbsup:


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ahah!thats true dont exagerate ppl ;)
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Postby soperman005 » Jul 7th, '06, 22:09

ur the one suckin his dick.. and im not sayin encore was rilly bad it jus aint up to par wit his first 3 cd's.. especially the songs on encore like big weenie, rain man where he makes a bunch of childish jokes and uses like fart jokes and shit.. those songs rilly suck. and if u listen to his new shit and then listen to his old shit u'll notice that his voice has changed and in my personal opinion, i rilly like his older voice better.. im still rilly lookin forward to anything he will produce and any songs he'll rap in the future, but i dont believe they will be as lyrically powerful as his older songs, thats all. and another thing on his voice, i think that he's usin that voice now because slim shady has disappeared and its only eminem rilly.. i wanna see more songs like "kill you" where slim shady is strongly present.
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Postby Nick419 » Jul 7th, '06, 22:16

man i dont get why people cant ever get over the fact of his race. hes white get over it and i can see what ur coming from about the whole Encore thing but ur voice naturally changes as u grow older and 90% of the time goes deeper it has nuttin to do with him trying to be black hes not forcing his voice to sound different thats just how he sounds if u ever saw some interveiws......If u dont like his new shit dont litsen to it u still have his older albums, but hey it seems he still pisses people off cause look how ur reacting :happy:
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Postby Nick419 » Jul 7th, '06, 22:46

ok then :unsure:
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Postby AspirinE » Jul 7th, '06, 23:10

i dont want the old eminem back, i just want him to do wat he really likes, not singles and wat interscope tells him.


I had a vision of a mature eminem at the 8-mile time and thats wen i decided to losten to him but he kinda let me down on Encore..


its just that em hasnt been working on much this year he was doing producing mostly, so i guess everyone feels kinda deprved of material.
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Postby matz » Jul 7th, '06, 23:21

ok encore was only bad by eminem's high standards. i think you guys are forgetting (particularly the guy who started this topic) like toy soldiers, spend some time, mockingbird, never enough, evil deeds, mosh and encore. especially like toy soldiers, spend some time and mockingbird.....the lyrics in that are just incredible. and about his voice.....he can't help that....people's voices surprisingly do change with age....i think his voice sounds far more mature now and i like it more to be honest
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Postby soperman005 » Jul 7th, '06, 23:22

ya'll can express ur opinions but it is a little rude to take shit personally and make verbal attacks towards me and shit tellin me em's gon make me suck his dick and shit.. i mean, danigantt, can u keep an open mind? shit everyone in this goddamn forum likes eminem jus he's doin some shit thats a bit questionable recently, specifically the lyrical content on encore.. i like his old voice better.. and its not that hes gettin older and shit because on some of his older shit he uses that deep voice.. for example he uses his deeper voice on the last verse on "stan" when he's rappin eminem's response to stan's letters and in "im back", both on the mmlp. I think it's the absence of his slim shady personlaity is the main contribution to his deeper voice on encore.. When he assumes the role of slim shady his voice is like hella higher pitched and shit. SO FUCKIN BRING BACK SLIM SHADY!!!!
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Postby soperman005 » Jul 7th, '06, 23:25

o and the lyrical content in mockingbird and evil deeds were not that great.. they were just ok... godddamn evil deeds was lyrically horrible.. great beat tho
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Postby matz » Jul 7th, '06, 23:45

ok evil deeds wasn't great lyrics but still a hot track and im gonna have to disagree with you on mockingbird......i mean i even liked just lose it and rain man cos they were funny and catchy.....the lyrics don't have to be amazing for it to be a good track.....ye and i still think it was only a bad album by eminem's standards.....his first 3 albums had hardly any bad tracks.....encore has a few
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Postby AspirinE » Jul 8th, '06, 00:15

OK people..


Ima separate hating from subjective view.


ENcore is an album... and u gotta judge it like one..
U judge it as whole, not track by track, like a work of art.

Wen u play encore ..


1st track.. - great
2nd track.. - fart noises + wackness + plus anoying beat
3rd track - good
4th track - a single (anoying track coz it gets played out after it gets aired too much)
... etc

That makes the album NON-enjoyable to some, but it doesnt mean its wrong. Keep an OPEN MIND..
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Postby soperman005 » Jul 8th, '06, 01:16

ya and the album as a whole wasnt that great and u gotta judge it track for track because good tracks make a good album and bad tracks make a bad album.. eminem had more bad tracks than in previous albums on encore which makes it a less enjoyable to listen to.. ill find myself skipping over songs on encore becuz they suck. i never skipped songs on the eminem show, the marshall mathers lp, or the slim shady lp because the songs were all amazing and filled with controversial lyrics.. not so much in encore.. he still does it but not to the extent that he does in the previous ones. and im not an eminem hater
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Postby eminemcaparica » Jul 8th, '06, 02:41

loooool, i think we all do man...
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Postby kait » Jul 8th, '06, 03:25

TruEmFan wrote:let's see...

evil deeds - good
never enough - good
yellow brick road - good
mosh - good
puke - good/bad
rain man - good/bad
my 1st single - bad
big weenie - bad
just lose it -good/bad
ass like that - bad
spend some time - good
mockingbird - good
crazy in love - good
one shot 2 shot - good/bad
encore - good



I agree with this, but I think the main reason why Encore was so negatively received was because the songs from TES and MMLP and even SSLP were great, if not perfect. Eminem's songs are still somewhat talented, but it's not up to par compared to what he has previously put out. Just what I think.

As for the "old Eminem" thing, artists have to change overtime. No rapper/singer/actress can stay exactly the same. Some people change positively and add even more credibility to their name, while others decline. Apparently, to some people, Eminem has been declining. Maybe so, but to me, it's just a change of style. Neither declining or improving.
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Postby soperman005 » Jul 8th, '06, 05:12

[I agree with this, but I think the main reason why Encore was so negatively received was because the songs from TES and MMLP and even SSLP were great, if not perfect. Eminem's songs are still somewhat talented, but it's not up to par compared to what he has previously put out. Just what I think.

As for the "old Eminem" thing, artists have to change overtime. No rapper/singer/actress can stay exactly the same. Some people change positively and add even more credibility to their name, while others decline. Apparently, to some people, Eminem has been declining. Maybe so, but to me, it's just a change of style. Neither declining or improving]

I definately think that Encore would have been much better if love you more, we as americans, and ricky ticky tock were on the actual cd. however they werent so it wasnt as good. and im not sayin i dont like eminem's new stuff, i just wish it were more like the older slim shady songs. But TruEmFan you gotta understand that you can't listen to the same songs forever. I also realize that artists change and evolve over time and we witness this with eminem as he differs in each album. From the slim shady lp he's kinda jus a kid and shit and hes rappin bout his younger days, mmlp hes rappin more bout family problems, eminem show he's rappin more about fame, encore he's rappin bout fame and shit again and hes more mature i guess. The thing is that he's almost completely eliminated his alter ego slim shady. I dont feel that's a necessary transition but w/e if u guys dont like slim shady then thats ur guy's opinions and i got nothin wrong with that. But i personally wanna see more slim shady. I dont know if we'll see it in the re-up because of the loss of proof so i think he gonna be more serious and shit but i dunno we'll find out. I also dont think we'll see a lot of it in the upcoming D12 album. However if Eminem releases a new album then maybe we will get to hear slim shady again.[/quote]
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