Why ooh why all this complaining?

[cheeseburger]

Let me start by saying this, I think everyone including Em wants honesty in his fans and people around him. He doesnt want us to swallow everything he drops and be happy about it. If something sukcs, then we should really say iy does.

BUT

This constant fucking childish whining about every single song that drops is annoying. WHY cant you just listen to it, enjoy it and move on? Why does it have to be analysed so damn much?
Why cant you stop comparing each song to another as soon as they drop?

That's why they put my
Lyrics up under this microscope, searchin' with a fine tooth comb, its like this rope, waitin'
To choke, tightening around my throat, watching me while I write this, like I don't like this,
Nope

That last line s all you fuckers complaining about food references, hoe-bashing, Spa-guh-tthieven, Tool-box-es and his newfound energy which all you fuckers call screaming...


Its like, everything he put out since The Eminem Show is being looked at as desperate attempts to sound as he ones did. But it isnt! He is Eminem, a human being who loves rap. And as he said in this new song Survival

I'm not a rapper, I'm an adapter, I can adjust
Plus I can just walk up to a mic and just bust

He listens to a beat and gets the urge to spazz on it in the only way he can, HIS way. There is no secret formula that he uses to make you automatically love him. Seriously, if you dont like what he offered on Survival, go fuck yourself . If you cant see and hear that this shit is pure talented art, then you are stupid and afraid of change. You want him to make a copy of his old self.

Listen to all these "new" songs since Recovery (My life, CLMR, Our House, Survival etc Ooh and Hell the sequel ofc) and realise that this 40 year old man is back in his zone. And when I say back in his zone I dont mean back in his slim shady days of blond hair and freestyling of the top zone.
He is back in his zone where HE controls his actions on a beat. He blends in to the song just the way he used to, but with much more energy.

He has progressed just as he should throughout the years of his career.
I dont know whatother to say than that I really, really look forward to seeing him in france now that Ive heard Survival. Damn man, this shit kicks ass!


Thank you.

[Hopsinshadie]

Survival kicks ass? Seriously? The guy gets one more chance. If his lead single blows, he is officially done.

Survival is a kick ass song? None of his songs have any rhythm at all. Zilch. He forgot what a kick ass song is. Of course I want old Em back. It's still better than this man trying to sound like a 25 year old pop artist. 2000 Eminem would be ashamed.

New Eminem is much harder to hear, make out, and his beats are awkward.

[Snakebeast]

Survival kicks ass? Seriously? The guy gets one more chance. If his lead single blows, he is officially done.

Survival is a kick ass song? None of his songs have any rhythm at all. Zilch. He forgot what a kick ass song is. Of course I want old Em back. It's still better than this man trying to sound like a 25 year old pop artist. 2000 Eminem would be ashamed.

"Top 5 in this mothafucka and if I don't make the cut
What, like I give a fuck, I'mma light this bitch up like I'm driving a truck
To the side of a pump, 0 to 60 hop in and gun it
Like G-Unit without the hyphen, I'm hyping 'em up'

"Plus you remind me of cocaine, ho
You always in the mirror with your face
So, I feel an urge to put you all in a line
And chop you with a razor blade"

"Hell yeah, I'd nail J-Lo.....TO THE RAILROAD!"

ur rite hopsinshadie he's so pop now he should just retire or mayeb find a tiem machine or somthin cuz the new eminem is bad what happened to making classics like without me and my name is and mockingbird and just lose it? what happened to "don't give a fuck" Eminem? this rock adn guitar and yelling shit is so pop omg im so done wit him

[cheeseburger]

@Snake

[Hopsinshadie]

I think he's just a rich middle aged man with nothing to do, doesn't go anywhere, and can't let go of rap. He should have did the Elysium movie. Why is he still rapping if he's gonna be putting out this nonsensical, crap? Don't mean to be pompous, but why not go for a hollywood career?

[cheeseburger]

I just cant see what kind of song he would make to make ShadieHopsin and his friends happy.

It irritates me.

Just stop listening to Eminem, he isnt for you anymore.
I can grasp the thought of that you ENJOYING his old work more, but dont come here and cry about that his new work sucks. Because it doesnt.
Its totally okay to say you enjoyed old Em more than new Em. But just fucking leave it there.

[Hopsinshadie]

I just cant see what kind of song he would make to make ShadieHopsin and his friends happy.

It irritates me.

Just stop listening to Eminem, he isnt for you anymore.
I can grasp the thought of that you ENJOYING his old work more, but dont come here and cry about that his new work sucks. Because it doesnt.
Its totally okay to say you enjoyed old Em more than new Em. But just fucking leave it there.

Well a song like ''The Warning'' with a more deliberate voice. It would have been more appropriate if he yelled on that one.

Or that freestyle ''The Art of Rap Freestyle.'' That's an example of how he can have his moments, but he needs to put a complete song together.

Is Eminem deliberately trying to sound SOOO different?

[Jason M.]

He evolved as an artist and you're an idiot.

[SliK]

Hahahaha cheeseburger must be the most ignorant poster on this board.

If we don't like his music, how can we enjoy it and move on? If we don't like it, we shouldn't (and won't) listen to it.

So you can either enjoy the legitimate complaints and move on, or what was it you said? Go fuck yourself

[Hopsinshadie]

Hahahaha cheeseburger must be the most ignorant poster on this board.

If we don't like his music, how can we enjoy it and move on? If we don't like it, we shouldn't (and won't) listen to it.

So you can either enjoy the legitimate complaints and move on, or what was it you said? Go fuck yourself

Nawww. You Stans aren't doing yourselves any favor by saying everyone has to agree with your shit. Just because I have an opinion which is one you don't like, doesn't mean I can't elaborate on my thoughts.

[Kill You]

Survival kicks ass? Seriously? The guy gets one more chance. If his lead single blows, he is officially done.

Survival is a kick ass song? None of his songs have any rhythm at all. Zilch. He forgot what a kick ass song is. Of course I want old Em back. It's still better than this man trying to sound like a 25 year old pop artist. 2000 Eminem would be ashamed.

New Eminem is much harder to hear, make out, and his beats are awkward.

It does kick ass. I get a rush of excitement when I hear the song. Doesn't kick ass to you, oh well. You think this sounds like a pop song? It's anything but, having a woman singing the hook doesn't make it pop lol. The beat bangs and hits, Em's delivery is aggressive, harsh, and hungry. His lyrics are good. I do not see the problem except the "screaming" that really isn't even screaming because this isn't fucking death metal music. He's rapping loudly, and for once in this song it doesn't sound like shit but actually sounds menacing.

People are allowed not to like a song, but this is truly ridiculous at some points.

[cheeseburger]

Hahahaha cheeseburger must be the most ignorant poster on this board.

If we don't like his music, how can we enjoy it and move on? If we don't like it, we shouldn't (and won't) listen to it.

So you can either enjoy the legitimate complaints and move on, or what was it you said? Go fuck yourself

Nawww. You Stans aren't doing yourselves any favor by saying everyone has to agree with your shit. Just because I have an opinion which is one you don't like, doesn't mean I can't elaborate on my thoughts.

Here we go. You two are the ignorant ones.
Obviously you listen to it since youre whining on about it.
Look, I didnt like Recovey, like at all. You dont see me posting on about how fucking terrible it was. It wasnt FOR ME. So instead i picked some songs I liked on there and moved on.
I dont like Richard, so what. I moved on from that one also.
I hated what he tried to do on Numb. Forgot about it in like two days.
Im not a critic, none of you are.

If course we are all entitled to an opinion but you selfclaimed experts have no idea of how he should sound. Its YOU that have made some twisted mold in your head that you think Em will some day become.
Its not going to happen.
You guys remind me of what Yelawolf said on Radio

It used to be you and Biggie, Chilli Peppers gave it away
Now we got ten year-olds sitting back in their chairs like "those where the days"

If you dont enjoy something, leave it. Its as simple as that.
The only way an artist is going to live up to all his fans is to stop creating at all.
Its crazy how the fans think they are the ones in charge of the material.
All you do is spread negativity that eventually makes you a desperate attention seeking fucking hater.
Well good job hater.

[SliK]

Of course I listened to it, but what makes you think I am continuing to do so? Did I say "Man I have this garbage on repeat and it's not getting any better!!!"? Of course not. I don't listen to shit I don't like.

I also never said I hated it. In fact, I have said there are a few good lines and I said it is good for what it is, a pump up song for a game played primarily by teens, and that I hoped this wasn't an indication as to what his album would be like.

You are ignorant, because you can't believe for a second that people can just dislike an Em song because its not that good. Nah, cheeseburger has us all figured out! We hate it because its not fitting a preconceived idea of what Em should do!! That's simply not the case. And saying we shouldn't be discussing our (somewhat) negative opinions of the song on an Eminem discussion board, stating that we should just move on, definitely makes you ignorant. Should this whole forum just be filled with Eminem ass kissers? Fuck that. Eminem has made some reeaaally fucking good tracks since his return that wouldn't have fit on any of his first 3 albums (Deja Vu, Buffalo Bill, Microphone, The Warning) and I can say that I like them just as openly and easily as I can say that I dislike certain songs.

[Whitefox]

It depends on people, cheeseburger. Some of them like to bring all the bad things they see/they think that are bad, they are not guilty for it.

[cheeseburger]

Well I guess im just a positive person then.