Thank you Basedshady for this highest of highest honour I will treat my title with mad respect
I don't know Solace that well but you seem like a cool guy with that Tupac song reference
Snake897 wrote:
Sarcasm? Why would he be sarcastic about that?
You're telling me that Crack A Bottle is better than Deja Vu?Do you know why he doesn't perform them? None of them are exactly stadium bangers. They're Eminem's odes to serial killing.
Deja Vu shits on every single song you just listed. By a long shot. And guess what? Substance and honesty isn't everything. If I wanted that and only that, why shouldn't I listen to Tupac instead? The man is meaningful rap at its finest. I listen to Em for his dark humour, wit, rhyming abilities, imagery, and wordplay.
Even if you're right about that (and I don't think so) don't use other people's opinions to back up your own.
Slim Stanley wrote:Maybe because it's a song, and he tends to use a lot of humor / sarcasm? Particularly across HTS. He's been pretty blunt about his feeling about Relapse.
No I'm not saying that. Deju Vu is one of the few memorable tracks on there. I'm sure Em doesn't have a problem with that song. But most of the album is filled with a ridiculous accent and mindless wordplay about serial killing, rape, etc. As Em said, the joke was already over.
Em's music (aside from some of Encore, and most of Relapse) has always had substance. That's why it's so damn good. There's meaning behind the lyrics, even his more comical songs - which shine a light on our stupid, celebrity obsessed culture and hypocrisies. Lyrics for the sake of humor or rhyming abilities can be fun to listen to but an entire album of it? Doesn't make for a memorable record.
Snake897 wrote:Slim Stanley wrote:Maybe because it's a song, and he tends to use a lot of humor / sarcasm? Particularly across HTS. He's been pretty blunt about his feeling about Relapse.
On Recovery, his compromised pop-influenced rap album, yes. Bashing Relapse while rapping about steaks and how his filet is smoking weed.No I'm not saying that. Deju Vu is one of the few memorable tracks on there. I'm sure Em doesn't have a problem with that song. But most of the album is filled with a ridiculous accent and mindless wordplay about serial killing, rape, etc. As Em said, the joke was already over.
Mindless wordplay? MINDLESS WORDPLAY? If Relapse was Eminem's ode to serial killing, Recovery was Eminem's love ballad to cornball Wayne punchlines.Em's music (aside from some of Encore, and most of Relapse) has always had substance. That's why it's so damn good. There's meaning behind the lyrics, even his more comical songs - which shine a light on our stupid, celebrity obsessed culture and hypocrisies. Lyrics for the sake of humor or rhyming abilities can be fun to listen to but an entire album of it? Doesn't make for a memorable record.
It wasn't just his rhyming. Relapse was practically devoid of humour (and due to the fact that you think it was a joke just proves that you are yet again blindly following the masses) and filled with dark and vivid imagery. For example, Same Song and Dance was creepy, haunting, and executed perfectly. Meaning? Hell no. But his flow, rhyming, and storytelling was perfect. Now take that same song and compare it to Not Afraid. An uplifting anthem worthy for any workout. Meaningful. But fucking hell, does it suck compared to SS & D.
And quit complaining about the "ridiculous accent" on Relapse. He at least used it to making his rhyme schemes smoother. On the other hand, his yelling on 90% of Recovery grated my ears like nails on a chalkboard.
But before you accuse me of being biased against Recovery, let me tell you that some of the tracks on there are awesome. For example, Going Through Changes has to be one of my favourite post-comeback Eminem tracks due to the sheer honesty and emotion that poured out during the song. The storytelling was great (not quite as good as Deja Vu, but good nonetheless) and the rhyming felt natural. The part where you could hear Hailie's voice echoing actually had me tearing up a bit (call me a pussy, but fuck you, that shit was emotional as fuck). Other great tracks include: Almost Famous (one of the few tracks where the yelling worked perfectly), On Fire, Cold Wind Blows (some of the lines are annoying as hell tho), Seduction, Space Bound (once again, great storytelling), Untitled, and possibly No Love (Em's verse was fire, but the beat was lackluster, chorus was too long, sample unnecessary). So just less than half the tracks. Not enough imo. Em can do much better. As he showed on both the bonus tracks, which for some unfathomable reason, didn't make the goddamn cut.
EllenPage-Mathers wrote:when i go to quote you, my school block it and the reason is pornography.
EminemBase wrote:Relapse songs sound fucking GOAT / buzz vibe live...
Recovery songs are dogshit in comparison.
But yeah he did 2nd guess himself. Then he pandered, he became a product.
If you watch his 2013 France performance... watch "3am" and then watch "Not Afraid"... "3am" he seems to fucking thrive on, and he looks cool and comfortable and edgy... and then "Not Afraid" he hasn't got a fucking clue what to do with himself... one minute he's tryna look smooth and loose, the next he's tight and rigid, then he's draggin' his feet, then switching and like... it just looks so obvious to me that he ain't as in / fully in to the shit. I'm betting he'll look back and regret more Recovery music than Relapse.
Relapse gets better with age. Recovery kinda gets worse...
Apart from a few of the absolute gems which are beastly.
Man, that "3am" flow is so awesome.
EllenPage-Mathers wrote:when i go to quote you, my school block it and the reason is pornography.
Mr. Porter wrote:csw621 wrote:Mr. Porter wrote:I also thought he sounded off-beat.
Porter plz, don't you have a youtube awards performance to fuck up
As a matter of fact I do. Thanks for reminding me.
EminemBase wrote:I'm betting he'll look back and regret more Recovery music than Relapse.
EminemBase wrote:@Snake = Relapse devoid of humour? Fuck you listen to son.
Relapse is jammed with humour. Most dumb-ass Em fans just don't get dark sarcasm or any kind of humour he does / his actual funny humour unless he goes AHHH THIS IS A JOKE, I'M WEARING A DRESS, LOOK AHHHHH. Like people thinking "We Made You" vid was funny.
The real humour on Relapse is genuine signs that his brilliant wit is still there.
"Hold that pill any longer it'll get sentimental value
Come-on toots, give me the valium alleyoop...
I'll slam dunk it in your mouth til you puke
And just as soon you pass out in your alphabet soup "
This is fantastic. And actually funny... the humour coming from descriptive writing that reveals a mindset and a scenario like classic shit aka... "Have you locked in cellar, developing anorexia, while I'm standing next to ya... eating a full course meal"
Nobody beats him @ spite, I hope MMLP2 is a fucking spite-fest.
But yeah... dunno what you listening to pham, Relapse is consistently funny.
Dark, and funny, and descriptively humorous... the best combination.
"Wait a minute this ain't dinner... this is paint thinner; You ate it yesterday I ain't hear no complaints did I?"
There's also lot of self-deprecation, spite, descriptive humour... shit he hadn't done properly... hmmm, well since MMLP tbh... TES has humour but he's just more blatantly head-on and down the line/self-serious.
Basedshady wrote:Embased
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