My 3 concerns about MMLP2

[nathan123]

Awwww fuck up. Why does everyone knit pick over his songs no ones ever happy there is always a couple of pricks that are never satisfied. He's just dropped one of his best lyrical songs of recent time with a crazy ass flow that we haven't heard before and your crying about it? What do you want him to do? Fans like you makes me wish that eminem would stop making music because he just can't win

So everything said about Em should be positive.

Ok.

No
But when he releases something as quality as rap god I would hope that his fans wouldn't pick the absolute shit out of every word, every sentence.
Soon he's going to release a song and someone's going to say that he's breathing too hard

[tjmarrs20]

I agree that the rappity? thing he does on certain songs is a little too much at times, he doesn't need to do it that much but it works on Rap God imo. I feel like Rap God is Em proving he is the master of all styles, he's showing you why he is a "rap god". The rappity style you speak of was actually necessary for this kind of song but it definitely is not my favorite part of the song.

As long as Em doesn't use the rappity style constantly throughout the album then I'm good.

"Enough rhymes to maybe try to help get some people through tough times
But I gotta keep a few punchlines just in case cause even you unsigned
Rappers are hungry looking at me like it's lunchtime
I know there was a time where once I
Was king of the underground, but I still rap like I'm on my Pharoahe Monch grind
So I crunch rhymes, but sometimes when you combine
Appeal with the skin color of mine
You get too big and here they come trying to censor you
Like that one line I said on "I'm Back" from the Mathers LP1
Where I tried to say I take seven kids from Columbine
Put 'em all in a line, add an AK-47, a revolver and a nine"

That's the kind of rhyming I want tbh. Not overly complicated, aggressive yet simple, and says a lot.

[yoda you can call me]

I wish he'd rap as smoothly as he did on TES. No yelling, no fast paced rhyming. Just the natural TES/8 Mile flow

Edit: I should specify I'm speaking on the nature of your comment and that general idea being shared. This isn't a direct jab at you in particular. Just the mindset.


Here's the thing. People want him to rap like he he did in his "prime". Anything else is fair game for criticism. Ok fine.

Personally...I want him to rap well. I don't need him to perfectly imitate his old style. All I ask is that he raps at a certain caliber. This is the exact reason why I am thrilled and others are not. On Rap God, he raps with an absurd level of talent and shows off raw rap skills like a maniac. His 3rd verse is worth mentioning with some of his best verses. If you are open to that idea, then he has already achieved his goal in returning to the best rapper...and there is no reason to criticize that which cannot be out-rapped right now. Particularly if we can admit it holds its own with a lot of his great work. Unless....

You become fixated on wanting the exact same style and sound. Everything he ever releases will always fall short by default, since an imitation of his old sound will never sound as genuine or natural as when that sound was just simply what he was putting out. If you look at it closely enough, 99% of the time you will find that imitation will fall short in some way to the original.

If you just allow him to deliver skills that are comparable to what he was showing off then, then I'd be willing to fucking bet he has some shit in store for you that will fulfill your desire for great rap.

Imitation will never be the original. As long as that is what you need to be fully satisfied, you will be let down to some degree every single time.

I'd rather have him showcase the fullest abilities of what he can make now, then see him get creatively boxed in by only trying to imitate something else.

bravo great paragraph.. he would definitely receive more criticism if he tried to mimic his earlier "golden era". people are stuck in a timewarp from 2000-2003 though

[Trilla]

@ SWA but eventually the fast rapping becomes a gimmick and doesn't become enjoyable anymore. Rapping in the conversational flow doesn't mean he's imitating his old style, that's absurd. People don't only want him to rap normally because a) not only is it easier to understand it's b) much more enjoyable to listen to

How you expect people to rap along to the incredibly fast part of Rap God? Sure, it sounds nice the first few listens, but as Amadeo said, it gets old fast.

For four straight albums in a row Em kept the conversational flow and no one got tired of it because it's the perfect flow for him. He just doesn't seem to realize that.

[yoda you can call me]

@ SWA but eventually the fast rapping becomes a gimmick and doesn't become enjoyable anymore. Rapping in the conversational flow doesn't mean he's imitating his old style, that's absurd. People don't only want him to rap normally because a) not only is it easier to understand it's b) much more enjoyable to listen to

How you expect people to rap along to the incredibly fast part of Rap God? Sure, it sounds nice the first few listens, but as Amadeo said, it gets old fast.

For four straight albums in a row Em kept the conversational flow and no one got tired of it because it's the perfect flow for him. He just doesn't seem to realize that.

there is no way on this planet that em will make an entire album consisting solely of fast flows. even he knows it would get boring fast, it was perfect for the track rap god, cause he was flexing his rap skills. the album will have diversity and consist of slower flows depending on the vision he's going for. there will no doubt but some storytelling on the album which will have a more slower flow.. anyways just trustshady

[unbound88]

if ur not reasonably happy with Rap God u shud prolly just give up because Em will never live up to whatever u've created in your head.

edit: SWA GOAT posts

[skc_]

totally agree with op.
Dont really like this flow, 1 or two songs its ok. He already used it too much on HTS, hope he wont on mmlp2, its just not smooth, i dont feel it, and it sounds forced sometimes.

[Snakebeast]

Too "rappity rap"?
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[Hadez]

Awwww fuck up. Why does everyone knit pick over his songs no ones ever happy there is always a couple of pricks that are never satisfied. He's just dropped one of his best lyrical songs of recent time with a crazy ass flow that we haven't heard before and your crying about it? What do you want him to do? Fans like you makes me wish that eminem would stop making music because he just can't win

Not wanting the remaining 11 tracks to be "Rap God 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, etc..." is a valid concern actually. Personally I love the song, but agree with OP's concerns of not wanting 60 minutes of, essentially, one track.

[Crazee]

When has an Eminem album sounded the same all the way through? All three songs so far are VERY different from each other.

Anyways, SWA is killing it. Props, brother.

[Trilla]

When has an Eminem album sounded the same all the way through? All three songs so far are VERY different from each other.

Anyways, SWA is killing it. Props, brother.

All three songs are different?

Survival and Berzerk practically share the same rock-influenced beat...

[Trilla]

You are warping my argument. I'm not saying that rapping in conversational flow automatically means he is imitating his old style.

"Here's the thing. People want him to rap like he he did in his "prime". Anything else is fair game for criticism. Ok fine.

Personally...I want him to rap well. I don't need him to perfectly imitate his old style."

Uhh...that's basically you saying that him rapping like he did in his prime is him perfectly imitating his old style. Or am I out of context here?

The main point is...if you are going to wait for "old Em" to return in every form (fill in the blank with whatever it is you liked about it) then that closed mindedness is setting you up for disappointment. Whether you can see it or not, if that is all you will be fully satisfied with, then even his best new work won't be good enough.

No one is waiting for Old Em to return we are past that stage hell we're lucky we're getting MMLP 2 my point is I want his flow to resort back to normal.

The whole point of Rap God wasn't to say "look at my songwriting abilities guys. Don't worry, we're going to have great concepts on the album!"

I know what the point of Rap God was.

So you discredit the song against something it isn't supposed to be. "oh well all he's doing is showing off flows and shit. No replay-ability". Your criticisms are as if there was ever an implication that this was meant to be anything other than proving he's better than you at rapping.

Did you even read my post? I'm not discrediting the song. I'm stating that it will get tiresome if he decides to override the double-time flow like he has been as of recently.

You say "gimmick", I, many others (and rappers that actually do this shit) call it "display of skill"

Rapping fast = having skill? Man what a fucked up criteria.

You can say it "isn't enjoyable" but I assure you I am enjoying the fuck out of it. So are millions of people. Hasn't gotten old, so don't speak for all of us. You want to criticize his songwriting? Well when the album comes out..have at it. But don't criticize his songwriting and lack of "conversational rap" in a song that is meant to display technical ability.

Meh, it was enjoyable the first five listens.

"Conversational rap" ok now I know you didn't read my post.

[4Corners]

Here's the thing.....I'm not saying I want him rap exactly like he did from 1999-2002, not at all.

I'm syaing he doesn't have to be overly complex to be dope and complex, or to get his point across.

Ridaz and On Fire were 2010 Eminem, so the "new" Eminem. He was so fucking dope on those and it felt natural for him like that. Even Underground, though he didn't say anything actually, the flow was so smooth and felt like Em was just flowing effortlessly over the beat.

Rap God is dope, but it still suffers from the choppiness and one too many pauses, and this overall feeling from Em that he has to be the most complex out of this fucking world emcee ever. He doesn't have to be all over the fucking place to be complex. That's all.

But I fear with his features he did during 2011-2013.....Here Comes the Weekend, Our House, Throw It Up, Richard, he's going to have that flow and those styles on the whole album. I hope I'm wrong but that's my biggest concern on this album. I hope he does a flow like he did the last 15 seconds or so on his Numb verse.

[Snakebeast]

My 3 concerns:

1) When the fuck is this shit gonna leak?

2) Will I be online when it leaks?

3) Will my dick literally explode when I hear it?

1) never (paul's too busy fucking Em in the ass with the MMLP2 disc in his sex dungeon)

2) no (duhhh)

3) no (how can your dick explode when you don't have one)

jk but not really

[Snakebeast]

My 3 concerns:

1) When the fuck is this shit gonna leak?

2) Will I be online when it leaks?

3) Will my dick literally explode when I hear it?

1) never (paul's too busy fucking Em in the ass with the MMLP2 disc in his sex dungeon)

2) no (duhhh)

3) no (how can your dick explode when you don't have one)

jk but not really