Is Rap God's 3rd verse on TOP 25 Em's verses?

[Amadeo]

It's not better than a single Em verse on MMLP, so no.

Rap God 3rd verse >>> Under the Influence, TRSS, BP2, maybe Kill You

Care to explain this opinion? Particularly with reference to the BP2 verse (which is the best of all of them).

[Snakebeast]

It's not better than a single Em verse on MMLP, so no.

Rap God 3rd verse >>> Under the Influence, TRSS, BP2, maybe Kill You

Care to explain this opinion? Particularly with reference to the BP2 verse (which is the best of all of them).

Sure thing. In terms of the flow alone and nothing else, I do think Rap God pretty much shits on a fuckload of Em songs. In terms of rhyming, its also superior in the rhyming department i.e. more rhyming, which stays natural throughout. Bitch Please 2 also has some fantastic rhyming, but I simply prefer RG, which has rhyming that just seems to fit the flow a lot better.

Example: "I'm the walking dead, but I'm just a talking head, a zombie floating
But I got your mom deep throating"

That line actually got me to chuckle and appreciate the rhyming at the same time.

Content-wise, while Em addressed the people accusing him of offensive lyrics (Timothy White) and his homophobia and basically gave them the middle finger on BP2, he simultaneously acknowledged the idiots stuck in 2004 who hate him because of Encore, the people who consider him to have gone pop simply because of his more rock-influenced beats, and people who consider him unable to make a song as powerful as Lose Yourself anymore, showing more self-awareness than he's had in years. He also acknowledges that he's not as popular anymore and that people aren't as easily offended as before, before using it to his advantage by finishing the columbine line.

Now, the negatives. With a verse this long, there are always negatives, and the ones in this one are blatantly obvious, but, in my opinion at least, they don't take too much away from the verse. For example, the Ray J./Fab bars, which, while seeming random first, have a lead up and some kind of point to it (the raygun line). And, of course, the biggest negative, which is the wordplay around the end of the song, which, while not bad or cringe-worthy (they're not out of place or anything, and they do fit within the context of the verse), they're not delivered in the best manner.

Despite these negatives, I do think the positives are enough to put the verse in at least my top 25, if not higher.

[Mr Change]

It's not better than a single Em verse on MMLP, so no.

this guy...

[Amadeo]

Sure thing. In terms of the flow alone and nothing else, I do think Rap God pretty much shits on a fuckload of Em songs. In terms of rhyming, its also superior in the rhyming department i.e. more rhyming, which stays natural throughout. Bitch Please 2 also has some fantastic rhyming, but I simply prefer RG, which has rhyming that just seems to fit the flow a lot better.

Not true.

Massacre
Combine
Of mine
Columbine
A nine
Million leagues

Think about the way he pronounces these words to fit the rhyme schemes. There's nothing natural about it.

I don't think "more rhyming" = better rhyming. I dispute this, anyway. There's probably a higher density of rhyming words in the BP2 verse.

Content-wise, while Em addressed the people accusing him of offensive lyrics (Timothy White) and his homophobia and basically gave them the middle finger on BP2, he simultaneously acknowledged the idiots stuck in 2004 who hate him because of Encore, the people who consider him to have gone pop simply because of his more rock-influenced beats, and people who consider him unable to make a song as powerful as Lose Yourself anymore, showing more self-awareness than he's had in years. He also acknowledges that he's not as popular anymore and that people aren't as easily offended as before, before using it to his advantage by finishing the columbine line.

Content shouldn't factor into your opinion of which one is better.

Now, the negatives. With a verse this long, there are always negatives, and the ones in this one are blatantly obvious, but, in my opinion at least, they don't take too much away from the verse. For example, the Ray J./Fab bars, which, while seeming random first, have a lead up and some kind of point to it (the raygun line). And, of course, the biggest negative, which is the wordplay around the end of the song, which, while not bad or cringe-worthy (they're not out of place or anything, and they do fit within the context of the verse), they're not delivered in the best manner.

So you've identified some flaws in the verse...what about the flaws of the Bitch Please II verse? You haven't talked about any.

[Snakebeast]

Not true.

Massacre
Combine
Of mine
Columbine
A nine
Million leagues

Think about the way he pronounces these words to fit the rhyme schemes. There's nothing natural about it.

I see your point about the million leagues, but besides that, they work (at least for me). By natural, I'm talking about the way he writes the rhymes, not the way he pronounces them.

I don't think "more rhyming" = better rhyming. I dispute this, anyway. There's probably a higher density of rhyming words in the BP2 verse.

More rhyming =/= better rhyming. Tech N9ne is NOT a fantastic rhymer, no matter what people think. The more natural it is, the better. When it actually flows and doesn't sound like a random clusterfuck of similar-sounding syllables, THEN we talk about how many rhymes there are.

Also, the BP2 verse is a FUCKLOAD shorter than RG.

Content shouldn't factor into your opinion of which one is better.

Uh...why not?

So you've identified some flaws in the verse...what about the flaws of the Bitch Please II verse? You haven't talked about any.

Sorry about that

Looking over the BP2 verse, unless you want to get REALLY nitpicky about it, then there's not too many negatives. The biggest for me would probably be the last four bars, which, while they aren't really all that bad, just feel like a very anticlimactic end to the verse and to the song.

[Snakebeast]

^Fully aware of that. Still kind of weak for the last four bars, though.

[Trilla]

1. Lose Yourself 1st verse
2. Lose Yourself 3rd verse
3. Drug Ballad 3rd verse
4. Criminal 2nd verse
5. Remember Me verse
6. Im Back 3rd verse
7. Who Knew 1st verse
8. The Way I Am 1st or 3rd verse cant decide
9. Kill You 3rd verse
10. TRSS 3rd verse
11. Brain Damage 2nd verse
12. Role Model 1st verse
13. Rock Bottom 2nd or 3rd verse cant decide
14. JDGAF 1st verse
15. SDGAF 1st verse (this verse is fucking killer)
16. COMC 3rd verse
17. Soldier 3rd verse
18. SGH 3rd verse
19. SFTM 3rd verse
20. Patiently Waiting verse
21. Till I Collapse 3rd verse
22. Bitch Please II verse
23. My Dads Gone Crazy 3rd verse
24. Stay Wide Awake 2nd or 3rd verse (dat hook itself > rap god lol jk)
25. Deja Vu 3rd verse

[SliK]

It's not better than a single Em verse on MMLP, so no.

For now, it's definitely better than UTI and TRSS 1st verse.

No way

[Jimmy Conway]

No

Probably not even close.

[SliK]

I like verse 2 more than verse 3

[whiteamerica2]

I like verse 2 more than verse 3

[Snakebeast]

For now, it's definitely better than UTI and TRSS 1st verse.

No way

agree with slik as well, as much as i love RG its hard too touch anything on mmlp and im still laughing at snake for even mentioning kill you

Oh please, the only fucking thing he did on Kill You was rap about killing people in creative and funny ways. It had great punchlines (SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!) and the passion, flow, and rhyming was phenomenal, but Em also showcases that on Rap God. I'd take RG'S third verse over Kill You's verses. Tweece over.

[SliK]

agree with slik as well, as much as i love RG its hard too touch anything on mmlp and im still laughing at snake for even mentioning kill you

Oh please, the only fucking thing he did on Kill You was rap about killing people in creative and funny ways. It had great punchlines (SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!) and the passion, flow, and rhyming was phenomenal, but Em also showcases that on Rap God. I'd take RG'S third verse over Kill You's verses. Tweece over.

You're embarrassing yourself

[Snakebeast]

agree with slik as well, as much as i love RG its hard too touch anything on mmlp and im still laughing at snake for even mentioning kill you

Oh please, the only fucking thing he did on Kill You was rap about killing people in creative and funny ways. It had great punchlines (SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!) and the passion, flow, and rhyming was phenomenal, but Em also showcases that on Rap God. I'd take RG'S third verse over Kill You's verses. Tweece over.

You're embarrassing yourself

Screw you I like Rap God

[Snakebeast]

soon snake is gonna start saying rap god is comparable to Who Knew and Im Back, give him a week or 2

It's better doe