5 Reasons Eminem Will Never Be My Idol [PolicyMic Article]

[Amadeo]

Lmao at the denial of the existence of white male privilege.

Can you explain some of the privileges that white males have that white females don't have?

[EminemBase]

[EminemInsider]

Not to interrupt Amadeo, but I couldn't resist responding to this.

Well, for starters, a man needn't worry if he will be raped for going out in public in a certain outfit.

But I thought rape was supposedly about power, not sex? What would an outfit have to do with anything?

Men also don't have to worry about staying out too late at night or walking alone after dark.

Everyone has to worry about that if they're in the wrong neighborhood. If you're thinking in terms of rape - the vast majority of rapes are date rapes, i.e. the victim knows the perpetrator. The woman is in far more danger when she hangs out at a frat party with a douchebag she thinks is, like, soooo amazinggg.

Men are raped and this is also a very serious matter, but it happens under different circumstances.

Right, so where's the privilege? There are probably more rapes in male prisons than there are in the rest of a country combined. And women can just snap their fingers and often get a man at least arrested on accusations of rape (since that's enough for probable cause), where in certain counties he'll already likely be raped in jail. I'd say that's a privilege.

A man can drink as much as he wants in public, because his odds of getting date raped are extremely low.

Well, thank God for that. Nothing like being able to be a drunken douchebag without worry of being sexually violated. Women are really missing out on the fun.

When a crime is committed against a man, even if it's rape, no one will ask what he was wearing or if he was drunk.

Nobody asks that in 1st world nations, either, unless you're talking about douchebags who have no say in the matter. Our judicial system does not care what a woman was wearing, and a man being drunk is not a legal defense.

When a woman gets hit, nobody calls her a pussy who isn't a real woman. If it was a man who hit her, she's a poor, innocent victim, even if she started it.

When a man gets the shit beaten out of him, he's a pussy. If a woman hits him and he reports it, he's a giant pussy.

How's that for "privilege?"

No one will call him a slut or say he deserved it.

You clearly haven't read many accounts of what goes on in prison.

Look no further than the incredibly lenient media coverage given to the Steubenville High School rape case for proof of male privilege, and there are so, so many other examples of female rape victims being mistreated and ridiculed.

What lenient media coverage? The fact that it's even being covered at all is telling.

There are also many other issues, such as the wage gap,

If you'd actually read up on this more you'd realize the wage gap has absolutely nothing to do with "privilege." It's just a thoughtless accusation made by feminists without examination of the actual details.

the denial and shaming of female sexuality,

It's been my observation that most of this denial and shaming is done by other women, not men. Men want women to be sexual. Excluding the Arab countries, of course. The Koolo-type nations are obviously full of retards.

and the fact that predominately white male politicians get to decide what a woman is and is not allowed to do with her body. Shit ain't equal.

Eek...abortion-related shit, I presume? Excluding the reality that it's not her body she's aborting...

How about the fact that men ultimately have no say in whether or not a woman gets an abortion, but then if she "chooses" to have his kid, he's still on the hook for child support payments? Then he has to "man up" and "be a father"...to a kid he ultimately had no say in having since the women apparently "have the right to choose what to do with their bodies." Women have the right to not be mothers if they don't want to, but if a man doesn't want to, he's a deadbeat lowlife scumbag.

There are also legitimate problems that men face within contemporary society, such as genital mutilation, the shaming and mockery of male abuse victims, and the tendency of the courts to give custody to the mother in nearly every situation, but the men's rights movement is publicly represented by complete fucking morons. While I fully support outlawing circumcision of minors, the very idea of a men's rights movement is silly because men, especially us honkies, already have a virtual monopoly on rights.

People like you think we're still living in the early 20th century or something. It just doesn't work like that anymore...unless you're living with Koolo and riding camels to your stash of pilled out Eminem tracks you're planning on leaking in hopes of getting your ego stroked by appreciative clowns on the internet.

[momentsgolden]

He used the word us describing homosexuals. Butthurt fag.

I will say, i agree that Kim is brilliant writing but the fact that Kim wanted to commit suicide after that is all the evidence u need that it is morally questionable. Of all the songs in his discography, that one is hard for me to accept.

[VINTAGƎ]

He used the word us describing homosexuals. Butthurt fag.

I will say, i agree that Kim is brilliant writing but the fact that Kim wanted to commit suicide after that is all the evidence u need that it is morally questionable. Of all the songs in his discography, that one is hard for me to accept.

We don't know the extent of what she did to him. "Music is reflection of self."

He was in a bad space and wrote out how he felt. As a writer myself, I can identify.

We know this is his only outlet for expressing himself. If she did him dirty and it burned him, I don't see why it's so bad to get on a track and say you know what? FUCK YOU.

The only thing I would say is maybe he didn't realize how big he was/how big he was getting and didn't realize his fans would go after her like a witch hunt and her name would be soiled beyond all recognition.

But as for the actual track and what he said in it? Artistic expression.

Art isn't rainbows and sunshine all the time. Some of life's greatest artists are tortured. He was in a mood where he needed to say what he said. Like I alluded to earlier -- rather he uses his music as these escape fantasies as opposed to getting in legitimate trouble with the law.

Rather he raps about beating up women as opposed to actually doing it.

[kkaniff]

"fact that Kim wanted to
commit suicide after that is all the
evidence u need that it is morally
questionable."
...
And Eminem has always been a paragon of virtue.

[kkaniff]

"Rather he raps about beating up
women as opposed to actually doing
it."
...
Not really.

[VINTAGƎ]

Eminem makes hate songs and stays out of real life, legal trouble. As opposed to making love songs and having bouts of rage and hitting women and getting into legal trouble every two months.

That's why he's relevent. Because his lyrics are escapism and not realism.

When he legit starts hitting women, then maybe tell me about what a piece of shit he is.

Until then, don't listen to his music if it makes you uncomfortable.

Agree

I appreciate the fact that he wrote about killing his partner rather than killing her for real

However, playing the song in front of her was fucking childish and mean

And, yes, since it makes me incredibly uncomfortable, I don't listen to it very often

Well I don't want to speculate on why he did it. Obviously he felt it was deserved. We only have one side of the story. We don't know what possessed him to do that. We don't know what she did.

We do know, he was in his 20s, and probably not the most mature person around. Who is in their 20s right?

Not making excuses, but it should be taken into consideration. Especially since years later, in his 30s, he tried to make up for it and clean the slate on GTC.

He seems like he's honestly remorseful for some of the real life people he's hurt with his music and is trying to make things right.

[VINTAGƎ]

"Rather he raps about beating up
women as opposed to actually doing
it."
...
Not really.

Well Eminem himself would probably agree and that's good enough for me

[Hamza1972]

Eminem is not an idol, Eminem is the God

[kkaniff]

"VINTAGƎ wrote:
Eminem makes hate songs and
stays out of real life, legal
trouble. "
How is that a good thing?

[kkaniff]

I'm a little fuzzy but...
Lets say, theoretically, that Em was being serious as fuck with the gay bashing and misogyny, lets say he wasn't being tongue in cheek, lets assume his music was actually a reflection of his life, in that case Em would deserve every bit of the media backlash and way more.
How on earth is it permissible to encourage hate and then claim innocence because hey, you didn't actually go out and smack a bitch?
Wtf kinda logic is that?

[VINTAGƎ]

"VINTAGƎ wrote:
Eminem makes hate songs and
stays out of real life, legal
trouble. "
How is that a good thing?

Why is it better for him to use music as therapy as opposed to an R&B singer's face? Dunno. Just is.

If you are that concerned about his music and the impact it has, why is your username his comically homosexual, cross dressing character? Isn't ken kaniff kind of offensive when you think about him?

[kkaniff]

"Why is it better for him to use music
as therapy as opposed to an R&B
singer's face? Dunno. Just is."
...
Nope, why is he considered morally superior to the dude who actually went and smacked a bitch when he has songs that encourage millions of (weak minded) people to do the same.
...
"If you are that concerned about his
music and the impact it has, why is
your username his comically
homosexual, cross dressing
character? Isn't ken kaniff kind of
offensive when you think about him?
...
You couldn't find an instrument sensitive enough to measure the
paucity of the amount of fucks I give about how society responds to Eminem's music. The only reason I'm even bothering to respond to this thread is to try to point out what I think are horrible arguments and because the Horsebot3k/EminemInsider/biscuitsbrah argument is amusing and I suspect Horsebot is getting friend-zoned.
I really DGAF about anybody's rights but myself.
Also, my username is kkaniff because I think it's funny that a paragon of magnificent maleness such as myself bears the username of a flaming fruit.

[Amadeo]

"VINTAGƎ wrote:
Eminem makes hate songs and
stays out of real life, legal
trouble. "
How is that a good thing?

Because he's entertaining millions of people with great music?