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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby lp_eminem_fan » Nov 17th, '13, 14:03

Trimss wrote:Recovery would have not sold that much without LTWYL.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby ShadyOnFire » Nov 17th, '13, 22:01

The Monster is waaaaaay overhated. It's not even a pop song, let's look at some of the lyics shall we?

"I wanted the fame, not the cover of Newsweek, oh well" Oh, yep totally gone pop

"Sometimes I wonder where these thoughts spawn from, (Yeah pondering'll do you wonders, no wonder you're losing your mind, the way it wanders" my god, what a sellout.

"Call me crazy but I have this vision, one day that I'll walk amongst you a regular civilian." OH MY GOD THAT'S SO FUCKING POP! HOLY SON OF A SHIT!

"I ain't here to save the fucking children, but if one kid out of a hundred million, who is going through a struggle, feels it and relates that's- great!" JESUS CHRIST HOW MUCH MORE FUCKING POP CAN THIS SELLOUT GET?!?!

But seriously stfu. and screw people saying that this doesn't belong on MMLP2, you're just saying that cuz of the upbeat vibe, the topic fits perfectly.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby nxt-semster-illB35 » Nov 17th, '13, 22:40

some flo-rida bullshit beat n hook
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby Kill You » Nov 17th, '13, 22:43

Trimss wrote:Recovery would have not sold that much without LTWYL.


Maybe not have had the longevity it's had but I don't think the initial sales were impacted at all. I think it was Eminem's name and word of mouth that sold Recovery for a while. LTWYL may have moved like 10,000 more copies but the average radio listener doesn't think "shit I have to go out and buy this album now" they think about going home and downloading it. Then checking out the whole album and maybe buying it later on if they like it.

But no I really believe that it was affected THAT much. A little bit but not significantly. Let's remember that LTWYL's audience were teenage girls in the age of downloading.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby nicknem » Nov 17th, '13, 23:25

Kill You wrote:
Trimss wrote:Recovery would have not sold that much without LTWYL.


Maybe not have had the longevity it's had but I don't think the initial sales were impacted at all. I think it was Eminem's name and word of mouth that sold Recovery for a while. LTWYL may have moved like 10,000 more copies but the average radio listener doesn't think "shit I have to go out and buy this album now" they think about going home and downloading it. Then checking out the whole album and maybe buying it later on if they like it.

But no I really believe that it was affected THAT much. A little bit but not significantly. Let's remember that LTWYL's audience were teenage girls in the age of downloading.



I think you're wrong. Rihanna was the reason why Recovery sold 3M. Maybe the debut sales weren't that influenced by Rihanna because the single hadn't been released yet and Not afraid was doing very good if I remember. But Love the WAy you Lie was THE major hit of the year and of course it boosted sales.

I think LTWYL is an awesome song. I love it. It speaks to me. I like the Monster too, but this is a little too poppy with the Whohohoooo and as somebody said, Rihanna isn't very useful on this one.

But I listened like a million times to love the way you lie. Sorry to see that I am the only one. :p
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby SliK » Nov 18th, '13, 01:37

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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby trentimus » Nov 18th, '13, 04:48

After listening to Headlights, Stronger Than I Was, Asshole and hearing Survival within the album I think the Monster is much better than I originally considered. At the single release I figured it was the worst song that was gonna make the album but in context I actually like it better than all of the tracks I mentioned. And, I retract; it is better than LTWYL
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 18th, '13, 04:53

trentimus wrote:After listening to Headlights, Stronger Than I Was, Asshole and hearing Survival within the album I think the Monster is much better than I originally considered. At the single release I figured it was the worst song that was gonna make the album but in context I actually like it better than all of the tracks I mentioned. And, I retract; it is better than LTWYL

definitely fits in the context of the album. nice upbeat track
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby Kill You » Nov 18th, '13, 05:25

SliK wrote:Kill You takes another L.


Okay moron, whatever the fuck you say. People knew Eminem long before Rihanna you fucking waste of breath. I don't even know why I'm taking the time to even type a response to you. Anything that is "anti-Kill You" is alright with you, no matter how wrong they are. You are pathetic. Go kill yourself now before you do it in the future you sad fuck.

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Kill You wrote:
Trimss wrote:Recovery would have not sold that much without LTWYL.


Maybe not have had the longevity it's had but I don't think the initial sales were impacted at all. I think it was Eminem's name and word of mouth that sold Recovery for a while. LTWYL may have moved like 10,000 more copies but the average radio listener doesn't think "shit I have to go out and buy this album now" they think about going home and downloading it. Then checking out the whole album and maybe buying it later on if they like it.

But no I really believe that it was affected THAT much. A little bit but not significantly. Let's remember that LTWYL's audience were teenage girls in the age of downloading.



I think you're wrong. Rihanna was the reason why Recovery sold 3M. Maybe the debut sales weren't that influenced by Rihanna because the single hadn't been released yet and Not afraid was doing very good if I remember. But Love the WAy you Lie was THE major hit of the year and of course it boosted sales.

I think LTWYL is an awesome song. I love it. It speaks to me. I like the Monster too, but this is a little too poppy with the Whohohoooo and as somebody said, Rihanna isn't very useful on this one.

But I listened like a million times to love the way you lie. Sorry to see that I am the only one. :p


Are you serious, I just said that. Debut sales weren't impacted and they were the biggest yet. LTWYL ONLY gave it longevity. I am not wrong, this is the age of downloading and I highly fucking doubt people heard LTWYL and had an urge to go buy this album. It only affected sales a tiny bit. Everyone knew who the fuck Em was before Rihanna. He didn't need her.

Get over it.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby SliK » Nov 18th, '13, 05:57

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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby Whitefox » Nov 18th, '13, 08:18

Kill You, you cant leave it like that. Look, how he laughs in your face, god damn it.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby EminemBase » Nov 18th, '13, 08:34

ShadyOnFire wrote:The Monster is waaaaaay overhated. It's not even a pop song, let's look at some of the lyics shall we?

"I wanted the fame, not the cover of Newsweek, oh well" Oh, yep totally gone pop

"Sometimes I wonder where these thoughts spawn from, (Yeah pondering'll do you wonders, no wonder you're losing your mind, the way it wanders" my god, what a sellout.

"Call me crazy but I have this vision, one day that I'll walk amongst you a regular civilian." OH MY GOD THAT'S SO FUCKING POP! HOLY SON OF A SHIT!

"I ain't here to save the fucking children, but if one kid out of a hundred million, who is going through a struggle, feels it and relates that's- great!" JESUS CHRIST HOW MUCH MORE FUCKING POP CAN THIS SELLOUT GET?!?!

But seriously stfu. and screw people saying that this doesn't belong on MMLP2, you're just saying that cuz of the upbeat vibe, the topic fits perfectly.


Who is saying Eminem is pop on it?

MUSICALLY, it's pop.

That beat and hook could be a Rihanna single with no rapping. That's pop music.

Eminem's style remains hard rap, but he's just trying to mix the two 'found a hella way to fuse it', but doesn't change the fact that MUSICALLY, it is pop.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby Troll » Nov 18th, '13, 09:17

@"kill you" you are one of the worst members on this website.
You really seem dumb.
Everytime when i am on this forum i see you discusion with someone but you never have good arguments and you get easily angry and you begin to swear at everyone without a reason.
And dont see that it isnt true that you are dumb because it is MY opinion and you cant decide about MY opinion.
Learn to accept others opinions and learn to accept that you arent always right!
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby Cinderella Stan » Nov 18th, '13, 09:54

EminemBase wrote:
ShadyOnFire wrote:The Monster is waaaaaay overhated. It's not even a pop song, let's look at some of the lyics shall we?

"I wanted the fame, not the cover of Newsweek, oh well" Oh, yep totally gone pop

"Sometimes I wonder where these thoughts spawn from, (Yeah pondering'll do you wonders, no wonder you're losing your mind, the way it wanders" my god, what a sellout.

"Call me crazy but I have this vision, one day that I'll walk amongst you a regular civilian." OH MY GOD THAT'S SO FUCKING POP! HOLY SON OF A SHIT!

"I ain't here to save the fucking children, but if one kid out of a hundred million, who is going through a struggle, feels it and relates that's- great!" JESUS CHRIST HOW MUCH MORE FUCKING POP CAN THIS SELLOUT GET?!?!

But seriously stfu. and screw people saying that this doesn't belong on MMLP2, you're just saying that cuz of the upbeat vibe, the topic fits perfectly.


Who is saying Eminem is pop on it?

MUSICALLY, it's pop.

That beat and hook could be a Rihanna single with no rapping. That's pop music.

Eminem's style remains hard rap, but he's just trying to mix the two 'found a hella way to fuse it', but doesn't change the fact that MUSICALLY, it is pop.


Yeah, how can rapping be pop? Em's verses are dope. But the beat and hook are the popiest thing Em has ever done in his career, could be a Rihanna single, could be a Miley single but mostly it sounds like something Katy Perry would do, but actually her hooks are better.
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Re: Here's What's Being Overlooked about The Monster

Postby nicknem » Nov 18th, '13, 10:03

trentimus wrote:After listening to Headlights, Stronger Than I Was, Asshole and hearing Survival within the album I think the Monster is much better than I originally considered. At the single release I figured it was the worst song that was gonna make the album but in context I actually like it better than all of the tracks I mentioned. And, I retract; it is better than LTWYL



Asshole is good. :angry:

Survival is "whatever"

Stronger than I was is totally lame. The only positive thing about this song is the honesty he puts in it. But the beat, lyrics, singing, OMG this is so bad.

I personally love headlights, it is pop too but I enjoy the chorus and the Ruess verse at the end. Way better than lighter which had the same kind of structure. And the lyrics are something new.

I think the Monster is a good song, at least a good single, Em's verses are better written and spit than in LTWYL but the song is less original and doesn't speak to me as much as LTWYL did.

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