JAY-Z ranks his own albums (says he has 4 classics)

by **Accor** » Dec 8th, '13, 17:59

^i had a discussion earlier with class about how that isn't necessarily true. people probably thought that after kingdome come as well and then he released american gangster

btw m8 which jay album is a classic to you???????

by **Kill You** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:01

Accor wrote:^i had a discussion earlier with class about how that isn't necessarily true. people probably thought that after kingdome come as well and then he released american gangster

btw m8 which jay album is a classic to you???????

The Black Album

I guess I'd say 2, I forget about Reasonable Doubt as well. So I'll go with 2.

by **classthe_king** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:06

I haven't listened to it since the year it got released so I can't really say. I didn't like it at the time but I didn't like a lot of things then that I like now.

Young Forever and the songs with J. Cole and Cudi are awesome tho

by **Accor** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:07

Kill You wrote:
Accor wrote:^i had a discussion earlier with class about how that isn't necessarily true. people probably thought that after kingdome come as well and then he released american gangster

btw m8 which jay album is a classic to you???????

The Black Album

I guess I'd say 2, I forget about Reasonable Doubt as well. So I'll go with 2.

earlier in that iww vs rd thread you said rd was only "good" m8

so what stops bp1 & ag from being classics for you?

mononym wrote:accor and class thoughts on bp3?

decent/solid, would but mchg above it

by **Kill You** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:10

Accor wrote:
Kill You wrote:
Accor wrote:^i had a discussion earlier with class about how that isn't necessarily true. people probably thought that after kingdome come as well and then he released american gangster

btw m8 which jay album is a classic to you???????

The Black Album

I guess I'd say 2, I forget about Reasonable Doubt as well. So I'll go with 2.

earlier in that iww vs rd thread you said rd was only "good" m8

so what stops bp1 & ag from being classics for you?

I don't like all of the songs on those albums lol. Reasonable Doubt is good in my eyes, but I can recognize its significance in the rap game so I feel comfortable calling it a classic even if I don't truly believe it. I can listen to every song on The Black Album so that's why that's my favorite Jay album.

by **Accor** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:14

yeah I'm not talking about cultural significance when I say the word classic lol. So what songs on those albums don't you like? And what do you mean by you don't like them? Because every song on rd, ag, and bp1 is at least good, when judging the quality of something you can't just take visceral reactions into account.

how would you rate each track on rd?

by **Kill You** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:20

Accor wrote:yeah I'm not talking about cultural significance when I say the word classic lol. So what songs on those albums don't you like? And what do you mean by you don't like them? Because every song on rd, ag, and bp1 is at least good, when judging the quality of something you can't just take visceral reactions into account.

how would you rate each track on rd?

Well, American Gangster I pretty much don't like half the album. Jay has always been hit or miss for me and a lot of times it comes down to his beat selection. I don't like some of the production he picks, sadly, it's not my thing. Blueprint is good, yeah, and there aren't really any bad tracks but I find myself skipping around that album a lot. No truly bad tracks but not many tracks that I really go back to.

As for my Reasonable Doubt ratings, I'll do a review in Hip Hop Reviews later on this afternoon after I go back and listen to it. It's been well over 5 years sine I've heard it in its entirety lol. But the discussion has intrigued me to go back so I'll have those up in a few hours. I don't have the time right this second, I have to go run some errands so while I'm out doing that I'll bump RD then write a review for it later. :y:

I do know that RD doesn't have any bad tracks either. But The Black Album is just superior in my honest opinion. At least so far, let me go and listen to it and maybe my mind will be changed idk. It has been forever since I bumped it.

by **Accor** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:28

The Black Album is superior to RD, and BP1, and maybe AG (AG is more consistent, TBA has a couple songs that I'd say are better than the best song on AG, 99 Problems in particular), but seeing as it's a near perfect album, that says nothing about the quality of the albums it's better than. So yeah if you haven't listened to them in years you should probably revisit them, I don't think it's fair to judge their quality without giving them the proper amount of listens first.

by **classthe_king** » Dec 8th, '13, 18:30

I think Hello Brooklyn is the only song on all four albums that I don't think is a good track.

by **Hiphopdane** » Dec 9th, '13, 00:57

I've only listened to a couple a tracks off Magna Holy Grail or whatever its name is but is it really a better effort than In my lifetime vol. 1? Hard to believe.

I would probably put American Gangster above Hard Knock Life but the first three I agree on. Im glad that he acknowledges Reasonable Doubt as his best album too.

by **Kill You** » Dec 9th, '13, 13:37

I never got home last night, stayed at my buddy's house so I never got to sit down and do my review. I'm doing it sometime today, probably when I get back from getting breakfast.

by **CrashBand** » Dec 10th, '13, 10:28

classthe_king wrote:I think Hello Brooklyn is the only song on all four albums that I don't think is a good track.

How about on Em's three great albums? jw

by **classthe_king** » Dec 10th, '13, 17:54

CrashBand wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I think Hello Brooklyn is the only song on all four albums that I don't think is a good track.

How about on Em's three great albums? jw

uhh If I Had

by **CrashBand** » Dec 10th, '13, 23:05

I think that's a 9 or 10 outta ten lol

maybs that d12 song on tes, when the music stops

by **classthe_king** » Dec 10th, '13, 23:17

I think it's just really lazy and boring especially compared to Rock Bottom

I still gave that a 7/10 cause Eminem and Proof's verses are good even though the rest are forgettable and Bizarre's is bad idk

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