T-Pain says hes the originator of the Auto-tune, Not Kanye

[stylzjaw]

T-Pain recalls meeting the creator of Auto-Tune, says no one has researched Auto-Tune like he has.

Among the plethora of artists Chicago rapper Kanye West recruited while working on his 808s & Heartbreak album years ago was Tallahassee, Florida singer/rapper T-Pain. And during a recent interview with Vlad TV, T-Pain recalled working with Kanye on his fourth studio album while in Hawaii.

According to T-Pain, Kanye expressed his appreciation for his debut album, Rappa Ternt Sanga and even referred to the Floridian musician as a “genius” for his work on the LP.

“The crazy thing was I worked on 808s & Heartbreak with Kanye,” T-Pain said. “I went down to Hawaii for like 10 days with that nikka. You know what I’m saying? And Kanye actually told me himself. My album, Rappa Ternt Sanga, he said ‘I listened to your album Rappa Ternt Sanga. I heard all the songs. I fukkin love your album Rappa Ternt Sanga. I think you a genius. Blah blah blah.’ He went through this whole spiel. He said, ‘But what I figured out that Rappa Ternt Sanga is just a bunch of love songs with a shyt load of base in em.’ And I’m like ‘Well, love songs is like heartbreaks and the shyt load of bass is the 808s. So, you calling your album 808s & Heartbreak because you making a bunch of love songs with a shyt load of bass in ‘em?’ And he basically was like ‘Yeah, pretty much.’”

T-Pain says the similarities between Rappa Ternt Sanga and 808s & Heartbreak and the lack of credit he received as the originator of the Auto-Tune technique once Ye’s album was released left him feeling unappreciated.

“I respect that shyt, but it’s like the praise that he got from it was like ‘Oh my God, this is so creative. This is the new shyt. This is the shyt,’” he said. “And I’m like ‘Well, what happened in 2005 when I dropped Rappa Ternt Sanga and it was the same album. That’s kind of weird.’ You know what I’m saying. It just felt like I was unappreciated and anything like that. Any originator of anything is gonna be the lesser known because it’s the newest thing and that’s just not—it’s not right, but that’s just how shyt goes.”

With the release of his debut album and singles including “I’m Spring” and "I'm 'n Luv (Wit a Stripper),” T-Pain became one of the first mainstream acts to rely heavily on the use Auto-Tune in his music. T-Pain’s work with Auto-Tune ultimately resulted in the singer/rapper being recruited for 808s & Heartbreak towards the end of the project.

Last year, T-Pain criticized fellow artist Future for his use of Auto-Tune, stating that the Atlanta rapper doesn’t understand “the technology very well.” He circled back to the comments he made in regards to Future during his interview with Vlad TV and revealed that no one has spent as much time researching Auto-Tune as he has.

“I can firmly say that nobody has looked into Auto-Tune the way I have,” T-Pain said. “You know what I’m saying? I’ve looked into Auto-Tune. I literally met the inventor of Auto-Tune. I talked to him about the way that Auto-Tune was invented. Auto-Tune was invented by this guy who used to be an oil digger. This guy used to work on an oil rig and they used to send sonar signals and tones down on the ground and if it came back a different tone up to where your equipment was then that means that determines if you got oil or not…He used that same math to make Auto-Tune. And it’s like you send the tone into Pro Tools and it sends you the right tone back. And a lot of math went into that shyt…I really studied this shyt and I know for a fact that nobody has sat down in the studio and studied this shyt that much.”

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[Eedee]

That's like saying "we may both have small dicks, but I measured mine first". Smh.

[yoda you can call me]

^yep lol.... Ain't nuttin to be proud of

[EG.]

Wait....
Is T-Pain short for Tooth Pain?

[RSoares]

^yep lol.... Ain't nuttin to be proud of

Exactly I came to say.

[Francesco]

None of them is the originator... T-Pain was the first one who brought that sound back to R&B/Hip-Hop but I don't think that's a good reason to brag about anyway.
I know modern auto-tune sound suppose to be kind of different to what that vocoder sound was back in the day but California love came & blew up in '95 & we all know how that hook sounds.
Not to mention electro groups like Daft Punk used auto-tune or similar sound all the time throughout the 90's as well...
T-Pain is either ignorant or most likely impostor for saying that.

[Francesco]

LOL. That's not something he should be proud of.

Obviously... lol Esp. as he comes as an impostor or just ignorant about it too.

[Francesco]

None of them is the originator... T-Pain was the first one who brought that sound back to R&B/Hip-Hop but I don't think that's a good reason to brag about anyway.
I know modern auto-tune sound suppose to be kind of different to what that vocoder sound was back in the day but California love came & blew up in '95 & we all know how that hook sounds.
Not to mention electro groups like Daft Punk used auto-tune or similar sound all the time throughout the 90's as well...
T-Pain is either ignorant or most likely impostor for saying that.

there's talk box (california love), there's Vocoder (early Daft Punk), and there's Autotune
its true that auto-tune was used as a one-off by janet jackson & cher before t-pain came through but "who used it first" isn't really what we mean by 'originator'

Good info... I mean the Talk Box, Vocoder & Autotune thing.
Like I pointed out they all have similar sound...
It's not the first time T-Pain acts like he's invented this sound... it originates way before he started his thing & like I said it's not even something to brag about as Jay took it out with one song.

[yoda you can call me]

Rebecca Black, murked both of them

[Francesco]

Good info... I mean the Talk Box, Vocoder & Autotune thing.
Like I pointed out they all have similar sound...
It's not the first time T-Pain acts like he's invented this sound... it originates way before he started his thing & like I said it's not even something to brag about as Jay took it out with one song.

Cher's take on the technology sounds nothing like what T-Pain brought, it's not like he copied & pasted what's been used earlier and claimed it his own, he really took it's use and elevated it to an entirely different level, Rappa Ternt Sanga had everybody's interest and now everybody's using it from kanye to future etc thx to him, calling him the originator makes plenty of sense if u ask me

It doesn't matter if he didn't copy & paste it... he did something other artists have done before him & that's why he's not the originator but just someone who followed... even if he did it his own way. I'm not saying he did the same thing but he's definitely not the originator in general.
It's like if Wu Tang said they are the originators of gangsta rap 'cuz they had their own unique act & sound & influenced a wave of new acts after them. I mean they did bring something new, unique & totally different if we talk about style, sound & format but they could never be the originators of that sub-genre.

What do you mean NOW everybody is using it? lol Kanye & Diddy were the only ones who blatantly copy catted him with all round auto-tune albums but that was years ago & they didn't do it ever again. Many others used it for hooks here & there at the time but to be honest apart Future I barely hear that nowadays. How many rappers or R&B artists did it in 2013... esp. important ones?

You probably are aware with what happened to T-Pain after he said Jay's carrer was dead, not the auto-tune at that show in Las Vegas... Fans went nuts & a wave of rappers made fun of him on Twitter saying that he's singing in a bucket, or that he's plugging his ass into a socket etc. etc.
Most of it T-Pain & the auto-tune has been barely relevant ever since D.O.A. dropped.

[Francesco]

Its a bit blasphemous to call him a follower, if anything his impact on how it worked it more like Rakim's impact than it was like Wu Tang, Nas or whatever.. He put the blueprint for that style and he didn't just get his hands on the software and randomly put it on a song like people before him, and bruh we aint talking about originator like who it could be traced back and analyzed to, were simply talking about who made it as big as it is, how many people heard of auto tune as a thing before t-pain? T Pain was clearly the person who made it a thing, that's why he's the originator, all the credit goes to him
& Jay's song is irrelevant, people are still using auto tune lol even coke rapper pusha t had some on his album, Kanye on Yeezus, Future, Wayne and other people like The-Dream & PARTYNEXTDOOR who are all doing it cos of pain, is anyone doing it because of Cher?
Sure pain is irrelevant now but thats besides the point

Nah man... the only blasphemous & crazy thing is to compare T-Pain's ''impact'' to Rakim's... Are you outta your mind? You didn't even get the point or even worse .. you're all wrong again if you got it but & still gave that example 'cuz Rakim isn't the originator of gangsta rap either.
Jay's song might be irrelevant but it definitely took T-Pain out with a bang...
Nobody ever followed his trend with all rounded auto-tune albums after Ye & Diddy (nobody ever will) so it doesn't mean shit if a few artists have had a few hooks like that. T-Pain himself said he puts the auto-tune behind a few years back. It's done man... it's something nobody cares about & that's the reason he's irrelevant so it's pretty much nowhere near beside the point. He practically is irrelevant 'cuz nobody cares about auto-tune nowadays.
You gotta be trolling... Right?

[Notalius]

A)completely missed the point of the rakim comparison
B)'few artists having hooks like that' is ridiculous downplay, have you ever heard Blood on the Leaves? Or anyone of the artists I've listed? Future built a career off t-pain and he's now the most relevant hook maker aside from Pluto being a highlight of 2012, The-Dream made auto tune a part of his thing, Chief Keef lel, basically unless you're completely disconnected from the mainstream music scene you can't simply say that no one cares about auto-tune anymore
C)Pain is irrelevant because he didn't drop an album in 3 years, Jay Z's song was a 10/10 song but it had no impact ON autotune's usability, DOA was anti autotune but were gonna act like there was no auto tune in watch the throne?

Not to mention that it was kanye's idea for Jay to drop that song lol

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[fifflaren]

he speaks the truth

[Francesco]

A)completely missed the point of the rakim comparison
B)'few artists having hooks like that' is ridiculous downplay, have you ever heard Blood on the Leaves? Or anyone of the artists I've listed? Future built a career off t-pain and he's now the most relevant hook maker aside from Pluto being a highlight of 2012, The-Dream made auto tune a part of his thing, Chief Keef lel, basically unless you're completely disconnected from the mainstream music scene you can't simply say that no one cares about auto-tune anymore
C)Pain is irrelevant because he didn't drop an album in 3 years, Jay Z's song was a 10/10 song but it had no impact ON autotune's usability, DOA was anti autotune but were gonna act like there was no auto tune in watch the throne?

Irony... you were the one who completely missed the point of my comparison prior to it & went outta your mind making yours.
Agian, for the 100th time... there were people before him using that so he can't be the originator even if what he did was slightly different. He is a follower... as simple as that.
Pluto wasn't the highlight of 2012 lol & It's very pathetic when you bring 3 hardly relevant artists (Future, The-Dream & Chief Keef) in 2014 which suppose to mirror T-Pain's ''impact''.
Up T-Pain all you want & act like everyone followed him but in reality he's not the originator of auto-tune & most of it nobody cares about that anymore.
It's 2014 already so don't look ridiculous bringing 2 and a half artists who had 1 and a half autu-tuned hooks in the last 3 years & make it look like auto-tune runs Hip-Hop.

T Pain didnt invent auto tune.....its been around before him. Stop making excuses for him or making shit up.

As simple as that...

Why was T-Pain ever fucking popular?

Yeah, Tell me about it... lol
Let us all act like tens of the most popular rappers didn't rip him apart when he said Jay's career was dead but not the auto-tune & let us all act like Hip-Hop fans care about auto-tune.