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Re: Kanye west

Postby yoda you can call me » Jan 16th, '14, 14:46

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He's definitely been taking L's left, right & center for the last couple of years regardless though.

Oh fo sure, he needs to pull himself together because there's only so far he'll be able to get with all this crap he's been coming out with lately. he's already on his second chance
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Re: Kanye west

Postby Francesco » Jan 16th, '14, 14:50

bigray wrote:average rapper


I'd actually agree if we talk about his skills as a writer/rapper.

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Francesco wrote:He's definitely been taking L's left, right & center for the last couple of years regardless though.

Oh fo sure, he needs to pull himself together because there's only so far he'll be able to get with all this crap he's been coming out with lately. he's already on his second chance


I think so too homie... he better get his shit together.
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Re: Kanye west

Postby The Asshole » Jan 16th, '14, 17:05

I dont really hate Kanye and have enjoyed many of his albums over the year. Sure he is not the most lyrical rapper but I dont need everyone to be overly lyrical all the time. The thing I hate most is for one people who defend Yeezus to the ends of the earth when it is just plain and simple a weak album. Along with that the people who put Kanye on the Greatest of All Time pedestal. For this era hes been great but Ye's no Pac, Biggie, Nas, or Em, belongs more in the tier below. Although the ranting on my past years was very groan inducing and painful to listen to.
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Re: Kanye west

Postby TRSL » Jan 16th, '14, 17:44

His consistency, body of work, several classics and influence definitely gets him at the top tier. He has never put out a bad solo project, unless Yeezus, which is his worse album, but still no 'Encore'.
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Re: Kanye west

Postby StanBase » Jan 16th, '14, 17:47

^his discography is crazy. Better than Em's in my, and a lot of peoples, opinion.
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Re: Kanye west

Postby The Shady Virus » Jan 16th, '14, 20:06

I feel like Ranting because I agree with the OP for the most part, but i think Kanye deserves credit for his earlier work.

I used to be a HUGE Kanye fan. College Dropout played a role in opening my mind up more to the genre. I only listened to Hov, Nas, Em, and Tupac before College Dropout came out. I'm sure there were some others but those 4 were the most prominent in my music choices. Late registration was solid. Graduation was solid. I would put those 3 in my top 20 albums of all time.

Ever since his mom died, I just can't fuck with him. He is arrogant, and the quality of his music isn't even half of what it was. I thought MBDTF was trash. I think he made it for white people (and I'm white). It seems like the people who really love his new shit are all young and didn't grow up with the Kanye that I grew up on. The streets aren't fucking with anything post graduation.

With all that being said, I got baked out of my mind a few months back and forced myself to listen to Yeezus with my dre beats cranked all the way up. There is 4 songs on there that I like when I'm fucked up. Hold My Liqour, I am a god, I'm in it, and blood on the leaves. Guilt Trip has it's moments too. Even though these songs are alright, They can't come close to his earlier work. Songs like Family Business, Roses, Touch the Sky, I wonder, etc. are light years ahead of Kanye's skill level today. I tried to do the same with MBDTF...I got retarded one night and redownloaded it because I didn't want that bull shit taking up my precious hard drive space when it first dropped. I just can't get into it. So appalled is the only worthy song imo, and I like Blame Game for the most part but Chris Rock had to fuck it up to the point that I can't listen to it.

Now people may think that I'm one of those people who can't let go of the past. However, I grew up on Eminem and I think he is technically sharper and better than he ever has been. I just really respect the craft of being an MC and the technical aspects that come along with writing, producing, etc. I don't miss the old Eminem.

I think Kanye is diluting and destroying the craft that I love so much and I'm sick of everyone acting like he is some kind of genius for the shittiest work he has released to date. Also, the kilts and the masks are just really fucking weird. I find his whole obsession with high end fashion a little homosexual to say the least :coffee:

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Re: Kanye west

Postby Rafael » Jan 16th, '14, 20:26

OP talking shit about Kanye but was mentioning Chris Webby and Hopsin in another thread.


Take your L bruh.







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Re: Kanye west

Postby FistInABlender » Jan 16th, '14, 21:24

N-R-G wrote:OP talking shit about Kanye but was mentioning Chris Webby and Hopsin in another thread.


Take your L bruh.







N-R-G out.


Hopsin is better than Kanye west, and Chris webby I only listen to his freestyles tbh, didn't realise how gay some of his songs are.

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Re: Kanye west

Postby StanBase » Jan 16th, '14, 21:41

FistInABlender wrote:Hopsin is better than Kanye west

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Re: Kanye west

Postby Francesco » Jan 17th, '14, 00:55

Rolly delivered... :laughing:
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Re: Kanye west

Postby guesswhosback08 » Jan 17th, '14, 00:58

you know your big when you can go by one name. Eminem, Kanye. Nough said
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Re: Kanye west

Postby TranSlucEnt » Jan 17th, '14, 05:27

I think he needs some serious grievance counseling.
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Re: Kanye west

Postby Rattle1 » Jan 17th, '14, 19:28

StanBase wrote:
FistInABlender wrote:Hopsin is better than Kanye west

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Re: Kanye west

Postby FistInABlender » Jan 18th, '14, 14:04

Yeah, I mean hopsin couldn't touch Kanye production wise, but he would rip Kanye apart in a battle, or even just normal rap song he's way nicer lyrically,
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