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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby EminemBase » Feb 1st, '14, 18:01

therapist wrote:Here's something else a lot of people probably aren't thinking about. Macklemore has completely dismantled the rules of the music industry and shattered the ceiling off while all the labels just had to stand back in awe (and disgust). He is getting bigger and bigger every day. He and ryan are worth 16M each already and they're back in the studio now.

Labels, if they're smart, will realize what Macklemore is doing and do anything they can to stop him. All labels reputation/worth are at stake right now if this indi thing doesn't get a lid put on it. Everyone else knows they can do it now too.

My point being...hip-hop labels, and magazines associated with or owned by labels might be trying to create a certain depiction of him that isn't true to bring him down and ruin his rep. Which contributes to things being said like this by respectable rappers. Not saying Kweli is in on it, but a lot of people have been saying some really similar sounding shit about him.


Pretty interesting post... / thoughts...

Another thought is that perhaps ''the insiders'' decided to shower him with Grammy's and a bit more light to try and shmooze him aka - they wanna sign him because they realize he's gonna be big $$ and those fuckers want a piece of it. As he's basically the only white rapper since Em to blow up to any noticeable degree.

But I honestly think Macklemore's idea of why he won Rap Album of the Year is much more likely; people are given ballots and asked to vote on genres they don't necessarily / almost certainly don't know about, such as hip-hop, of all ages. So if a name is more popular and known and cross-genre friendly... if they're likely to have heard of them more, they will vote for them over others. Which could explain (other than the great music and deserved wins) why Kanye has won so many. He crosses a lot of musical paths other than rap.

PS. the fact Kanye is the rapper with the most Grammy's (by quite a margin), over Em, who has sold 100+ million records and been around... 5 years longer - proves it has fuck all to do with race. The Grammy's suck the shit out of Ye's black dick regularly. It's called cross-appeal and popularity mother-fuckers. Not race.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby therapist » Feb 1st, '14, 18:20

Right On, EmBase. I think the "powers that be" play both sides of the game. Macklemore has been grinding for like 14 years now so he needed this to breakout now. Whoever runs this shit knows this is just going to push Kendrick harder for his sophomore album. I don't think Mack will sign to a label now though. He and ryan are worth 16M each, his wife is worth like 4M now. His whole team is makin money. The only thing a label could offer them is a 50M dollar record advance and the promise of the most monumental album in history.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Raul » Feb 1st, '14, 22:01

King Lance wrote:its been known...even Macklemore has said this same exact thing in his interviews
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Trimss » Feb 1st, '14, 22:03

Oh, I can't deny most of Macklemore's audience don't know hip hop. But the same can be said about Eminem right?
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Notalius » Feb 1st, '14, 22:24

Trimss wrote:Oh, I can't deny most of Macklemore's audience don't know hip hop. But the same can be said about Eminem right?


about anyone .. fans from wacka flocka don't knwo shit about hip hop, fans from wayne don't know anything .. it's so stupid to give a statement like that.

It's even worse that it comes from a legend like Talib. Shows how narrow-minded he is.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby King Lance » Feb 1st, '14, 22:31

Miller wrote:Macklemore is a million times better than Wayne and Drake in terms of rap ability but you never hear people say their fans dont know rap.



don't like drake like that, but drake is better lyricist than Macklemore :zipped:

The reason why Drake has hip hop fans is because he can spit, dude has a lot of 1 liners :unsure:
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Notalius » Feb 1st, '14, 22:36

King Lance wrote:
Miller wrote:Macklemore is a million times better than Wayne and Drake in terms of rap ability but you never hear people say their fans dont know rap.



don't like drake like that, but drake is better lyricist than Macklemore :zipped:

The reason why Drake has hip hop fans is because he can spit, dude has a lot of 1 liners :unsure:


Drake could never write a song like Starting over.

And lol ath Mackle not being a good lyricist.

Lance .. just admit that you are also one of those people that says that there is fake and real hip hop lol
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Trimss » Feb 1st, '14, 22:37

King Lance wrote:
Miller wrote:Macklemore is a million times better than Wayne and Drake in terms of rap ability but you never hear people say their fans dont know rap.



don't like drake like that, but drake is better lyricist than Macklemore :zipped:


define lyricist because Macklemore has the content, the message, the rhymes and everything over Drake. Drake's subject matter is really repetitive and that's not being a great lyricist if you ask me.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby King Lance » Feb 1st, '14, 22:37

Notalius wrote:
King Lance wrote:
Miller wrote:Macklemore is a million times better than Wayne and Drake in terms of rap ability but you never hear people say their fans dont know rap.



don't like drake like that, but drake is better lyricist than Macklemore :zipped:

The reason why Drake has hip hop fans is because he can spit, dude has a lot of 1 liners :unsure:





I don't even want to discuss that hsit on trshady, at the end of the day, Drake will awlays be considered as a better rapper than Macklemore and tbh, I can see why. he has punchlines, 1 liners & quotables for days.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Notalius » Feb 1st, '14, 22:39

King Lance wrote:
Notalius wrote:
King Lance wrote:



I don't even want to discuss that hsit on trshady, at the end of the day, Drake will awlays be considered as a better rapper than Macklemore and tbh, I can see why.


by who ? black narrow-minded people that say that, and then turn around to listen to someone like Ross ?

Lance, I think that you forgot that you are white too.
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby King Lance » Feb 1st, '14, 22:41

Notalius wrote:
Lance, I think that you forgot that you are white too.



Where did I mention skin color in this thread ? :facepalm
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Notalius » Feb 1st, '14, 22:44

King Lance wrote:
Notalius wrote:
Lance, I think that you forgot that you are white too.



Where did I mention skin color in this thread ? :facepalm


You said that you don't wanna discuss that on TR, where most people are white. I bet my ass that you meant ktt or coli where most are black. Black people automatically hate on Macklemore, don't even say that this is not true.

I'm sure you meant that when you said that about TR
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby King Lance » Feb 1st, '14, 22:46

Notalius wrote:
King Lance wrote:
Notalius wrote:
Lance, I think that you forgot that you are white too.



Where did I mention skin color in this thread ? :facepalm


You said that you don't wanna discuss that on TR, where most people are white. I bet my ass that you meant ktt or coli where most are black. Black people automatically hate on Macklemore, don't even say that this is not true.

I'm sure you meant that when you said that about TR


you're corny.

I don't want to talk about that on tr because most of you hate drake for no reason :laughing: .
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Steelez » Feb 1st, '14, 22:46

Drake might not be a great rapper but he's better than Macklemore, no doubt about it
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Re: Talib Kweli admits Macklemore's audience don't know hip

Postby Notalius » Feb 1st, '14, 22:47

King Lance wrote:
Notalius wrote:
King Lance wrote:

Where did I mention skin color in this thread ? :facepalm


You said that you don't wanna discuss that on TR, where most people are white. I bet my ass that you meant ktt or coli where most are black. Black people automatically hate on Macklemore, don't even say that this is not true.

I'm sure you meant that when you said that about TR


you're corny.

I don't want to talk about that on tr because most of you hate drake for no reason. hes not one of my favorites but I can respect the talent.


I don't hate on Drake, I like some of his music, but are you not able to respect talent when it comes to macklmore ? :)
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