Does Kanye have any classics ?

[King Lance]

To put it simply .. fuck no not even close

Sorta like asking does pharrel have a classic
They both need to stick to producing but occasionally hop on a feature

if kanye doesn't have any classic then nobody does.

[Just Silver]

To put it simply .. fuck no not even close

Sorta like asking does pharrel have a classic
They both need to stick to producing but occasionally hop on a feature

if kanye doesn't have any classic then nobody does.

That makes no sense

[King Lance]

To put it simply .. fuck no not even close

Sorta like asking does pharrel have a classic
They both need to stick to producing but occasionally hop on a feature

if kanye doesn't have any classic then nobody does.

That makes no sense

and how does that make sense ?

To put it simply .. fuck no not even close

Sorta like asking does pharrel have a classic
They both need to stick to producing but occasionally hop on a feature

can you explain me how his albums aren't classics ?

MBDTF, CD & LR:

-Quality: they are critically acclaimed and you can find them on every "best albums of all time" list, people still talk about them as masterpieces, even 10 years later.
-Influence/impact: kanye influenced more artists/producers/albums than than anybody else during the 2000/2010s (Drake, Kid Cudi, Ryan Lewis, Pusha-T,...)

Kanye had the biggest impact on music this decade, his fingerprints can be found all over contemporary hip-hop.

[Raul]

can you explain me how his albums aren't classics ?

MBDTF, CD & LR:

-Quality: they are critically acclaimed and you can find them on every "best albums of all time" list, people still talk about them as masterpieces, even 10 years later.
-Influence/impact: kanye influenced more artists/producers/albums than than anybody else during the 2000/2010s (Drake, Kid Cudi, Ryan Lewis, Pusha-T,...)

powerful and true

[Fleka]

I have no idea, to be honest.

[Just Silver]

I'll give you that he is influential and has influenced a handful of artists but I just feel his music may be ok but it's not aging well imo/ it's not timeless

[King Lance]

I'll give you that he is influential and has influenced a handful of artists but I just feel his music may be ok but it's not aging well imo/ it's not timeless

but an indivual doesn't decide whether an album is classic or not.

is illmatic wack because some people don't like it ? I don't think so... the majority always win imo

[Just Silver]

I thought the term classic is just more powerful

I don't understand the kanye hype

[King Lance]

and some people don't understand the hype for Jay//Eminem/Pac/Biggie

[King Lance]

and some people don't understand the hype for Jay//Eminem/Pac/Biggie

I wouldn't put Kanye in their company tbh. Add in Nas an I'd say any rapper that has come up since them has been influenced by them in some way. But in terms of actual rapping inspiration. How to rhyme/flow (Nas/Em), what to rap about and how to reach out to people (pac). Kanye may have inspired some artists sonically, but I can't imagine anyone looks up to him as a rap idol.

Just think about what artists you said Kanye inspired, then think about the artists that those 5 have inspired.

I think a lot of people would agree that Kanye influenced way more artists than Eminem... If we're talking about influence I'd say that Kanye owned the 2000s (in any genre)

[King Lance]

Nas (and rakim) changed the way we look at lyrics, also nas sounds like a lot of mcees because a lot of mcees tried to sound like him.

and Kanye west isn't called the most influential artist of the last decade for nothing


Influence:
-Food & Liquor, Below The Heavens, Cole World, Boy Meets World, The Pink Lavalamp, Dipsets production as a whole,
-Diversified mainstream hip hop with more musical elements
-Brought the electro movement to mainstream hip hop
-more recently: Man On The Moon, So Far Gone, pretty much everyone in that OVOXO (Drake's label) !!

and you could argue that kanye is the reason gangsta rap disappeared from the mainstream scene

[DetroitSkills]

and some people don't understand the hype for Jay//Eminem/Pac/Biggie

those are the deaf people, i feel bad for them

[King Lance]

yeah, if you ask me, hes definitely the one who birthed most of these new rappers/artists. shit, you can even see his influence in pop/rnb music ( Frank Ocean, The Weeknd, James Blake, Bon Iver...

[Just Silver]

If we are talking about influence, I'd say his influence on hip-hop music has (unintentionally) been negative for the most part, combine that with Lil Wayne's influence and there is your answer as to why mainstream hip-hop has been saturated with so much fuck shit these last few years.

[Mr Change]

Kanye does have at least one classic imo, possibly/probably more

Believe it or not but he's owned a huge amount of Hip-Hop the past 10 years.