Hamza1972 wrote:#20. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2 – 11,000 (2,053,107)
Hamza1972 wrote:#20. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2 – 11,000 (2,053,107)


Dorian wrote:Mediatraffic - April 18th 2014
#32 - Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2 - Week 23
Aftermath / Interscope - 21.000
The Marshall Mathers LP 2 WORLDWIDE sales after 23 weeks (18.04.2014) - 3.934.000
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Revolutionary wrote:You guys are really underestimating the Recovery promotion campaign, this is just a quick list of the things I remember:
MTV VMA performance
Letterman performance
Entourage cameo (to a fuckin’ season finale)
RedBull Emsee
Chrystlar commercial (this one destroyed every fuckin commercial that night)
Ice Tea commercial
Home&Home
Surprise appearance at Rihanna concert
Multiple WW performances
Many WW interviews
60 Minutes interview
Jimmy Fallon performance
Grammys
SNL

Revolutionary wrote:You guys are really underestimating the Recovery promotion campaign, this is just a quick list of the things I remember:
MTV VMA performance
Letterman performance
Entourage cameo (to a fuckin’ season finale)
RedBull Emsee
Chrystlar commercial (this one destroyed every fuckin commercial that night)
Ice Tea commercial
Home&Home
Surprise appearance at Rihanna concert
Multiple WW performances
Many WW interviews
60 Minutes interview
Jimmy Fallon performance
Grammys
SNL
For MMLP2:
Youtube awards
Multiple WW shows
EMA awards
Couple of interviews
SNL
And that’s it…he disappeared after that.
You gotta understand, people are puppets. You have to spend some and spoil the people in order to get them to buy your shit. Em clearly doesn’t fuckin care about that and he probably only made “The Monster” so he could just chill at his house for a while without having to do shit.
Heck, I even think Em made about as much album sales with MMLP2. When about 1000 fans buy a bundle for $300 (which could probably only cost about 100) that’s 300k from only 1000 fans, think about all those other bundles that ranged from $67-$170 with about 5000 fans buying that shit.
Not to forget the few shirts the label kept putting on display for a limited amount, those were kind of expensive.




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StayWideAwake wrote:chikachika wrote:StayWideAwake wrote:
-Call of Duty special reveal
-Gamestop deal. Every person that buys the biggest game in the world, from the biggest game retailer in the world, gets a discount on the album with an additional song.
-Beats is on top of the music industry right now and had the lead single in basically every single ad for weeks. Paul said they wanted to do the reveal at the VMAs but he was already booked for the Reading festival so they couldn't. They still did a world reveal of the album during the show.
-ESPN appearance
-Rap God dropped like an explosion and anyone with ears was talking about it. Rapgenius actually crashed because so many people immediately went on the site to look at the lyrics
-He was the cover story for Billboard, Complex, and Rolling Stone.
-Numerous hip hop sites held "Eminem Week" covering literally everything Eminem. Not exactly a coincidence.
-SNL
-First ever YouTube awards. Was it stupid? Yes. But it got millions of viewers to watch him perform the song basically the entire world thought he wouldn't be able to do live.
-He followed this with the release of another one of the biggest songs of his career
-Tons of TV commercials for the album in the days leading up to release
-Rap City brought back a special episode just for Eminem hyping the fuck out of him and he dropped a new freestyle
-Ads on the sides of skyscrapers and buses in NYC..
He released the Not Afraid video around the release of Recovery, and then didn't release another video for 2 months, then another 2 months passed until the next video. It took him over a year after the album to release a fourth music video.
For MMLP2, he released the Berzerk video in September, and in a month released his second video. Only 3 weeks after the album came out he released another music video, and only 3 weeks after that released another video. Even after this constant push of singles and videos he's putting out a fifth video which will be extremely likely to release way before he even put out 4 singles for Recovery. He's now doing huge shows and is still up to be nominated and or win awards which will keep pushing attention to the album.
The promotion push for this album has been phenomenal. Just because he isn't doing the same things he did for Recovery doesn't at all mean there isn't massive promotion. There wasn't a person in the world that listens to rap music and didn't know this album dropped, and they're still obviously trying to keep stretching it out.
It has definitely not been phenomenal. Yes Rap God was a huge promotion but other than that not much. He did much better promotion for Recovery. The whole call of duty thing was done also for recovery and wont ack down, so nothing new. Actually most of the stuff you listed were done for recovery as well. And not afraid and love the way you lie were bigger singles than the 5 right now. With the exception of Rap God non of the singles are album sellers. But Not afraid and LTWYL help album sales a lot. Bad Guy would be a great album seller if he makes a video for it.
First you want him to match the Recovery promotion but now if he did something similar for this album it's "nothing new"? That makes no sense. The Monster and Rap God and Berzerk collectively did extremely well. Not Afraid was good promotion for Recovery. Rap God is good promotion for MMLP2. They are vastly different albums and 10 times out of 10 I take Rap God over Not Afraid regardless of how well it does.
Also, no I don't believe the GameStop deal was for Recovery as well. The Call of Duty they did the deal with sold 19 million copies. All of the millions and millions of people that bought the game from GameStop were given direct incentive to purchase the album. If we're talking about actual album sales, interviews get attention. This was literally direct influence to buy the album.
So nothing other than Rap God are album sellers? First of all Berzerk sold 1 million copies by it's sixth week a month before the album even came out. You're going to tell me that all 4 million people that bought the album are hardcore "Rap God" rap fans? The Monster is already the 3rd biggest song of his career. But it's not big enough because it isn't as big as the biggest song of his career.
I don't understand you guys in the slightest bit. He had the highest selling first week and had the highest selling rap album of the year with the apparently lazy promotion and singles that aren't album sellers. He outsold everyone. Even himself, first week. He makes a huge radio friendly album, sells like crazy and is a puppet sell out. He makes a much more core, authentic rap album with much better singles, outsells his "pop" album first week, and is too lazy to care about sales. Eminem fans are insane.

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StayWideAwake wrote:Emadyville wrote:everyone makes good points tbh. i dont know what to think. all i know is mmlp2 is lightyears ahead of recovery and im happy about that
When it comes down to it, that's all that matters. It's cool to see him still outselling everyone but I'm much happier about how good the album is.
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that
I love you Daren

Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that
I love you Daren

StayWideAwake wrote:Emadyville wrote:I read it all. And i agree with you. I guess the problem for me is that its so good how did it now sell more by now? not to mention the fact recovery has sold twice as much. i think a lot of it actually has to do with it taking 3+ years to come out with a new album. i mean sslp, mmlp and tes came out within a 4 year span.
Because in today's music industry the majority of buyers aren't really serious appreciative fans like you and I. Quality sells, but not as much as accessibility and popularity. GKMC is pretty much accepted as a classic and one of the best hip hop albums in years, and I highly doubt it will do Recovery numbers. That's part of why I believe MMLP2 was such a success. He managed to give it just enough mass appeal while still delivering as much rap quality as possible. He's outdoing "pop" numbers, while still outdoing most "underground" skills. It's what he's been doing the whole time, it's just that the balance is much harder to do as sales are shrinking drastically and the market is changing. Album sales are probably going to continue to get worse and it just isn't possible sell what an artist could have sold in the past.

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