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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby kkaniff » May 2nd, '14, 11:53

So sensitive.
So very sensitive.
I'm going to make an effort to post more now, since it clearly hurts you.
Anyway, as calling you an idiot would be sort of redundant- since I've said so before and you continue to prove me right, I'm going to try something else.
The posts you replied to, the ones saying:
In the technical aspect the new Eminem is much better than the
Em from 99-03

and
Eminem now is much more technically skilled than he was in his early career

are comparing Eminem's technical skill from about 10 years ago to what it is now. I'm going to include a definition of the word since you're obviously dense.
a likening; illustration by similitude; comparative estimate or statement.

Then I said:
in order to illustrate your point that 99-03 Em is technically better than 99-03 Em, you compare the worst example of one with the
best of the other?

Translation:
You: " wah, waaah Eminem's flow suxxx now"
Me: Yes, in some songs his flow is a little off, but don't post the worst example of current Em's flow and leave out the amazing parts, since we are talking about his overall technical skill.
Do you understand what I'm saying so far?
Then I continued:
Then you have the gall to call the other guy an idiot

Which I thought was a reasonably polite way of saying that your mom should have swallowed you.
I'm still not sure why you took offence.
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Just go away,
your posts are nothing but clutter.
Nobody wants you here.
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I'm hurt. Why are you so mean?
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby Him Shadow » May 2nd, '14, 15:46

I have to agree with all "fuckin' idiots" above that say Em is now more technically skilled :y:
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby Satan » May 2nd, '14, 22:10

Of course, I am aware of the risk of saying this, but EminemInsider, fucking Christ, what is your problem with people who disagree with Eminem's rhyming? It just seems to unfathomably piss you off, when it really isn't a big deal. I agree that Eminem isn't as good technically as he was back in 2001, but either way, it just isn't worth getting worked up and throwing genuinely hurtful insults. Choose your battles wisely, man.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby yoda you can call me » May 2nd, '14, 23:07

I wan't KKaniff here, he's the fookin dude
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby Josh » May 2nd, '14, 23:39

@EminemInsider why do you insult directly , explain it !

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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby EminemInsider » May 4th, '14, 03:21

kkaniff wrote:So sensitive.
So very sensitive.
I'm going to make an effort to post more now, since it clearly hurts you.
Anyway, as calling you an idiot would be sort of redundant- since I've said so before and you continue to prove me right, I'm going to try something else.
The posts you replied to, the ones saying:
In the technical aspect the new Eminem is much better than the
Em from 99-03

and
Eminem now is much more technically skilled than he was in his early career

are comparing Eminem's technical skill from about 10 years ago to what it is now. I'm going to include a definition of the word since you're obviously dense.
a likening; illustration by similitude; comparative estimate or statement.

Then I said:
in order to illustrate your point that 99-03 Em is technically better than 99-03 Em, you compare the worst example of one with the
best of the other?

Translation:
You: " wah, waaah Eminem's flow suxxx now"
Me: Yes, in some songs his flow is a little off, but don't post the worst example of current Em's flow and leave out the amazing parts, since we are talking about his overall technical skill.
Do you understand what I'm saying so far?
Then I continued:
Then you have the gall to call the other guy an idiot

Which I thought was a reasonably polite way of saying that your mom should have swallowed you.
I'm still not sure why you took offence.
Also
Just go away,
your posts are nothing but clutter.
Nobody wants you here.
?
I'm hurt. Why are you so mean?


And you still don't even get it. :facepalm

You somehow manage to confuse yourself over the most easy-to-understand things in the world.

Once again, I wasn't posting a comparison of flows you idiot. I was showing Eminem's lyrics on Renegade and illustrating how Eminem would have flowed them today - terribly, in an effort to show idiots like you his "technical prowess," but in actuality he is far worse technically because his flow, one of the technical areas of rap music, is now terrible as a result.

Those examples I posted are true of virtually every single fucking song Eminem has put out post-Relapse. It's extremely rare that he gets it right these days. There are no "amazing" parts to Eminem's flow these days. There are times where he does a respectable job, and that's about it. He's still a very talented wordsmith, but his delivery doesn't do it justice.

Here's a hint, dolt: If you have hurled insults at both Amadeo and me, there's a 100% chance you are a complete idiot. And for fucks sake, learn how to fucking use line breaks.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby DetroitSkills » May 4th, '14, 03:52

himshadow wrote:I have to agree with all "fuckin' idiots" above that say Em is now more technically skilled :y:

me too. dudes is deaf. lol mmlp2 was fuckin great :coffee:
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby DetroitSkills » May 4th, '14, 03:58

Menzo wrote:What about the portion of the third verse on "Lose Yourself", where he splits bars pretty badly.

Also, of you truly believe there are no amazing parts to his flows these days, then you're in straight denial.

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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby DetroitSkills » May 4th, '14, 04:07

StayWideAwake wrote:His flow in the beginning of the 3rd verse of Baby tho>>>>

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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby EminemInsider » May 4th, '14, 08:25

Menzo wrote:What about the portion of the third verse on "Lose Yourself", where he splits bars pretty badly.

Also, of you truly believe there are no amazing parts to his flows these days, then you're in straight denial.
-

I should give EmInsider a point for his 100% insult-a-naysayer record :heskylaugh:


The Lose Yourself 3rd verse examples you're referring to are phrase splits at the snare that result from Eminem writing a long phrase to rap over multiple bars, which means things spill over to the next line. While not great form, and something to generally be avoided, it's not as egregious as pulling the first word or two from the next phrase into the prior line to finish a rhyme scheme at the snare, which is done solely to alert the listener to the fact that the scheme continues, given that there were already portions of the multi that aligned at the snare without saying the next word or two.

"Hamburger hel(per)" and "hand I was dealt" and "animal shelt(er)" is already obvious to non-moronic listeners.

Whereas,

All the pain inside amplified by the/ fact that I can't get by with my 9 to/ 5
And I can't provide the right type of/ life for my family

needs to be split up in order for any portions of the rhyme scheme to line up at and near the snare.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby DetroitSkills » May 4th, '14, 08:49

Menzo wrote:Right
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby kkaniff » May 4th, '14, 12:59

@EminemInsider
Are you being deliberately dense?

As you stated yourself
his flow, one of the technical areas of rap music

I bolded the 'one' to make it easier for you to understand.
I acknowledged that his flow is sometimes off here:
Yes, in some songs his flow
is a little off,

But his overall technical skill, which includes his new proficiency with wordplay and word association are better than in his prime.
Do you understand now, or do you think that present Em does nothing better than he did in his prime?
I'd say something at this point about you being really, really stupid but I haven't got the energy to be creatively insulting.
Also, when did I insult Amadeo?
Contrary to what y'all seem to think, I don't just recklessly insult people unless they say something really idiotic first, or I'm bored.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby kkaniff » May 4th, '14, 13:29

I apologise in advance for double posting, but I can't edit my posts on my phone and I feel like this needs to be said:
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I feel a lot of resentment/supressed rage rather disproportionate to the little argument we're having. I don't know ( and I honestly don't care) if I said something you've taken offence to in the past but, if you feel so strongly about it, make a thread Backstage and send me the link.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby yoda you can call me » May 4th, '14, 14:56

Damn straight fam. You've got the Em section on lock.
Em said himself that he's always trying new flows and shit because thats just a product of his obsessive nature. The only time he's dumbed shit down was his Recovery phase and that was his wordplay. Why the fuck would he need to dumb his flow down?. Where his "prime" flows so hard to comprehend or something? Rap God and Groundhog Day demonstrates some of his dopest flows oat.
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Re: Cleanin' Out My Closet Vs Headlights...

Postby EminemInsider » May 4th, '14, 22:55

kkaniff wrote:@EminemInsider
Are you being deliberately dense?

As you stated yourself
his flow, one of the technical areas of rap music

I bolded the 'one' to make it easier for you to understand.
I acknowledged that his flow is sometimes off here:
Yes, in some songs his flow
is a little off,

But his overall technical skill, which includes his new proficiency with wordplay and word association are better than in his prime.
Do you understand now, or do you think that present Em does nothing better than he did in his prime?
I'd say something at this point about you being really, really stupid but I haven't got the energy to be creatively insulting.
Also, when did I insult Amadeo?
Contrary to what y'all seem to think, I don't just recklessly insult people unless they say something really idiotic first, or I'm bored.


Sorry, but the one being deliberately dense is you. I guess you've given up on knocking down the "comparison" straw man.

No, he does not do a single thing better than he did pre-pills, unless you go back to pre-Soul Intent days. His double time flow was better in Soul Intent. His punchlines/associative wordplay are no less cringe-worthy these days than they were on Infinite. Even his last verse on Bad Guy, which was one of the best on the album, was marred by that stupid "shit" double entendre. "Toilet's clogged, cuz I'm talking a lot of shit, but I'm backing it all up" = "you couldn't flip shit playing in toilets with a spatula." Eminem generally gave up on punchlines after Infinite, and it's probably because he realized that they're lame.

His cadence from 94-02 was so much better than his cadence has been ever since that it's a joke of a comparison. His rhyme schemes were the most crisp and fluid and beautifully connected and constructed during his SSLP days, and the most interwoven/complex in the TES days. These days, you can tell he's pretty much run out of words to rhyme, which is probably why he's resorting to dropping so many athlete/celebrity names. He ended up recycling all kinds of rhyme schemes and parts of rhyme schemes on MMLP2.

kkaniff wrote:I apologise in advance for double posting, but I can't edit my posts on my phone and I feel like this needs to be said:
EminemInsider
I feel a lot of resentment/supressed rage rather disproportionate to the little argument we're having. I don't know ( and I honestly don't care) if I said something you've taken offence to in the past but, if you feel so strongly about it, make a thread Backstage and send me the link.
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Oh yeah, I'm going to waste my time in a separate thread with someone who thinks MMLP2 is Eminem's best album ever. That sounds like so much fun - going back and forth in a random insult match with an idiot who hits return after every sentence.
Here. Let me translate it for you.
You have posted in numerous threads and hurled insults at Amadeo and me.
Maybe you don't remember, because you do it to everyone.
But you've def been doing it for months now, fam.
You def are an obnoxious moron. Nobody is impressed, nicca.
You actually thinking you are intelligent is hilarious.
You thinking you are a formidable internet opponent in any way is hilarious, fam.
I generally like MMLP2, but it's nowhere near his pre-pills work.
If you think otherwise, you don't know what you're talking about.
Sorry, fam.
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