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Nas - Hip hop is Dead (discussion)

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Postby NoLimitWordz » Dec 10th, '06, 18:39

danigantt wrote:
spitz wrote:whats crazy to me.....the same people that will by a young jeezy album, or a young joc album, the people ruining hip hop, are gunna get the hip hop is dead album, which hip hop is dead cuz of stupid artists such as those....i dont get it. nas is really the only rapper left. unless eminem pulls the next album out of his ass, or if the mighty rakim comes back



no. i don't think so. my little sister would buy a young joc cd, but i'm sure she probaly doesn't even know who nas is.

they don't know what hiphop is.


yeah thats the problem these days
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Postby spitz » Dec 10th, '06, 22:28

NoLimitWordz wrote:
danigantt wrote:
spitz wrote:whats crazy to me.....the same people that will by a young jeezy album, or a young joc album, the people ruining hip hop, are gunna get the hip hop is dead album, which hip hop is dead cuz of stupid artists such as those....i dont get it. nas is really the only rapper left. unless eminem pulls the next album out of his ass, or if the mighty rakim comes back



no. i don't think so. my little sister would buy a young joc cd, but i'm sure she probaly doesn't even know who nas is.

they don't know what hiphop is.


yeah thats the problem these days


thats mainly what im sayin. if people jus gettin into rap, they gunna know what they see on tv, so joc n jeezy is the "best out"...but the people that really no rap will only half listen, like nas said. if you went back in the days of rakim, nas debutin, biggie debutin, youd see what real hip hop is.....its a sad day when im in a car with friends...n i put on lets say...."whats beef" by biggie...n some people get pissed n say "naw man, throw on that i know you see it! that murks biggie!"
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Dec 11th, '06, 13:42

i aint downloading this ill be buying it :D

but i heard hip hop is dead and that songs great :D
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Postby 4D » Dec 19th, '06, 13:32

ASP wrote:nobody on this forum even cares what u say anyway, you got your head so far up 50cents ass that you don't even listen to music no more.


LMFAO, great line Asp!

Just realising this idiot is Dj Harlem, aka Young EM, aka 50CentCockJockey. Why do you keep changing your name, only to come back and earn a bad one again?

I gotta give it to ya, you seem like you know a lot about recording equipment, but, you know absolutely nothing about hip-hop music!!

NOTHING!! :angry:

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Postby spitz » Dec 26th, '06, 23:21

well, i jus bought the album, along with independents day, re up, n capital punishment, n i must say, its a strong candidate for album of the year...its great. nas is back, beware motherfuckers. he gunna kill who killed hip hop.
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Postby yoshi » Jan 12th, '07, 20:13

sorry to bump this topic, but i just have to say it..

that album is sick :8) Nas did a great job here i think. i love all tracks.. my fave solo track would be Blunt Ashes, but i like Hope too.

other tracks would be Hip Hop Is Dead - great one. and Play On Playa, i like Snoop's verse, he sounds awesome there.. his flow is just.. i dunno, but sounds good with the beat. and umm.. Game's verse on Hustlers and and and Not Going Back aaaand... idk, can't decide, i just.. luv them all :sweating:
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Postby D@vid » Jan 12th, '07, 20:18

yea i liked it, but i lost it when my com fucked up.im gonna request it right now.
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Postby mdeuce » Jan 12th, '07, 23:42

a lil off topic but did anyone see the interview clip on mtv where NAS said he's really feeling music and might drop another album this year? i searched mtv's site but couldn't find it!
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Postby Kez » Jan 13th, '07, 00:36

I think your review (ASP) pretty much explained all my thoughts on it.
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Postby Prodeo » Jan 13th, '07, 02:00

iceaxe187 wrote:what's more important than the album being any good is the truth in the title. Nas is right, Hip Hop is dead


correction: US hip hop is dead, that's what happens when music becomes mainstream, it gets commercial
but back on-topic:
Hip Hop Is Dead is a really great album, the best I heard since grodt (not the soundtrack - you can argue about the quality but I just wanna use it as a timemarker), then again I don't listen that much to Hip Hop.

Strong intro
Strong single (one of the few non-clubbanger-singles)
Who Killed It? i actually found the accent funny, chorus i disliked
Jay-Z's verse on Black Republican: not that good, but Nas verse is great
not going back: love the chorus, finally a other few on the hood
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still dreaming: don't really like it
hold down the block: good
blunt ashes: nice intro and concept
and so on ...

overall back to the basics: true, great lyrics, good beats and a nice flow. What do you want more?
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Postby mdeuce » Jan 13th, '07, 17:48

i don't understand why everyone keeps saying hip-hop is dead. hip-hop isn't dead, it's just hidden. underground and in studios waiting to be released in the upcoming year(s)

it seems like it's dead in the mainstream because the radio is saturated with creatively challenged lyrics backed by commercially pumped out cookie cutter beats. nas' album clearly states WHY he thinks it's dead in the mainstream. and if you read his XXL interview, he reiterates his points again. that's why i loved the album so much. he clearly states he made the album for himself and because of HIS relationship with hip-hop. not for the public, airplay, or any other corporate bean counter.

i see ppl comparing kingdome come to HHIP (i even heard the doctor's advocate.. which i'm not even going to touch on because the game is NOT in their league) which is just plain wrong since jay-z is more of a business man than an artist. he knows how to pick beats that's more fit commercially

someone wrote a few pages back that Nas recycled lyrics but um, did you hear jay-z's lost one? he repeated HOV three or four times in the first two lines. i turned it off right after that LMAO. imho, even if ppl say that it was a disappoint, 'HHIP' was one of the hottest albums dropped in 06. i can listen to it back to back w/ out cringing.
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Postby pawel » Jan 14th, '07, 10:16

Yoshi, you forgot Let there Be light :angry: lol, that's my favourite :D

Check, let there be light
No gang banging in New York tonight
Just murals of Biggie Smalls, bigger then life
Turn up the kid mic cuz ya'll ain't listening right
What's all this talk that Nas got bought?
I'd rather outline my body in white chalk
Ain't nobody been where I been, they at a stand still
This is all overseen by my man Will

he starts good with the first 3 lines :)
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Postby vermin » Jan 14th, '07, 13:23

just like any other Nas album, it's a classic. I can't listen it enough! Beats, the flow, the lyrics, everything are OK! my favorite track is Black Republican.
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Postby sinemm » Jan 14th, '07, 15:35

album was really good beats n songs..there r no song i didnt like in it..
great job Nas did..
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Postby yoshi » Jan 14th, '07, 17:42

pawel wrote:Yoshi, you forgot Let there Be light :angry: lol, that's my favourite :D



sorry lmao yup, i like that one too. :8)
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