U.S Gun Laws Draw Heat After Massacre

[AspirinE]

100% agree with Asp. Some people are so fuckin thick in the head, when the obvious answer is right in front of their nose, they still don't get it -_-

if they cant use guns then they'll just start usin something else. possibly somethin worse.

Like what, name me one thing, that can be used to mow down 32 people in a few hours.

[D@vid]

a bomb can do a lot more damage in a much shorter time than any gun can, or even a few hand grenades could do more damage than a gun. after i posted what i did i realized we're both kinda wrong asp. cuz like i said, canada has a lot more strict gun control laws and their media isn't as corrupt and fucked up as the US's. but that obviously cant be it, cuz other wise the guy wouldn't have done what he did in canada last year. i don't think gun laws or the media really should be blamed for all of it. they have a part in it, but they don't deserve all the blame. some ppl are just crazy, and have mental problems they can't deal with. not here to debate, u can make that thread if u want. but guns are used to hunt as well, especially here in michigan. i think ppl always try to blame other things than what really should be blamed. they want to feel good knowing something is the cause, and that ppl should suffer for it. if u got rid of guns, all that would do is hurt an already hurting economy in the US. all the hunters would get mad, but everybody else would be happy. nobody really would win. it may take a few guns out of stores, but what about the millions already on the streets?



and with the media thing i was trying to say that the media puts fear into everybody, so that makes them go get the guns. then they see all this shit about ppl getting shot all the time, so they wanna do it. its just a domino effect. but now that i think of it that cant be it. so i don't know who's to blame fully for this, except for the mentally ill fucks that do the crime

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100% agree with Asp. Some people are so fuckin thick in the head, when the obvious answer is right in front of their nose, they still don't get it -_-

^ agree

[AspirinE]

a bomb can do a lot more damage in a much shorter time than any gun can, or even a few hand grenades could do more damage than a gun.

not everybody can make a bomb, and if they can make it out of shit thats available, that in no way relates to gun laws, bombs are less available, and killed less people that guns. Grenades are millitary weapons, they are illegal.. thus irrelevant.

after i posted what i did i realized we're both kinda wrong asp.
cuz like i said, canada has a lot more strict gun control laws and their media isn't as corrupt and fucked up as the US's. but that obviously cant be it, cuz other wise the guy wouldn't have done what he did in canada last year

Im not wrong, im stating that guns kill people, banning guns, brings down gun crime violence... fact.

as for canada, that was a copy cat. They have stricter laws, so these things happen less often. Matter of fact, guns should be banned anywhere regardless.

i don't think gun laws or the media really should be blamed for all of it. they have a part in it, but they don't deserve all the blame. some ppl are just crazy, and have mental problems they can't deal with. not here to debate, u can make that thread if u want. but guns are used to hunt as well, especially here in michigan.

Guns kill people, how can u not blame gunlaws when every phsychopath has access to weapons? ...

and hunting? ... excuse me, do u hunt with semi-automatic weapons? Do u go to the store and buy two revolvers with intent to hunt?

ridiculous.

i think ppl always try to blame other things than what really should be blamed. they want to feel good knowing something is the cause, and that ppl should suffer for it. if u got rid of guns, all that would do is hurt an already hurting economy in the US. all the hunters would get mad, but everybody else would be happy. nobody really would win. it may take a few guns out of stores, but what about the millions already on the streets?



The commies were right, "when we hang the capitalists, they gone sell us the rope". reflects exactly the state of mind your talking about, it aint right, it should be changed (easy as that).

if u got rid of guns, all that would do is hurt an already hurting economy in the US. all the hunters would get mad, but everybody else would be happy. nobody really would win. it may take a few guns out of stores, but what about the millions already on the streets?

awww the hunters will get mad.... boo fucking hoo. the only people who gonna get mad are immoral people that want to own a gun to shoot someone, and the dumb rednecks that shoot cans in the desert.

As for the economy, everything has consequences, u gotta make sacrifices, some arms dealer in america earning less to none would not get any sympaphy from me, even if i was living in america and busted nuts to some ammendment written in times of racial prejeduce, and an old fashion need for a gun.

and with the media thing i was trying to say that the media puts fear into everybody, so that makes them go get the guns. then they see all this shit about ppl getting shot all the time, so they wanna do it. its just a domino effect.

I see murder and fear on the screens of my tv, but i cant just go buy me gun when im having a bad day. Its like giving the rope to a suicidal man.

but now that i think of it that cant be it. so i don't know who's to blame fully for this, except for the mentally ill fucks that do the crime

as i said, ofcourse the murderer is guilty of it as result of his own actions. But why supply pottential murderes with weapons?

[D@vid]

bombs aren't hard to make. theres plenty of books and websites dedicated to that. if bombs were so hard to make, then why are ppl killed every day in the war cuz of car bombs, and why did the Oklahoma City bombing happen? ppl can do anything they want nowadays. making it harder to get a gun won't stop anything. theres just too many of them already out there. u can get one if u really wanted to, and the ppl that would really want to would be the psychopaths. canada may have been a copy cat, but theres still plenty of this shit happening. its not that rare that ppl get shot. maybe not at the same volume, but ppl get shot all over the world every day. i guess ur right about ppl not hunting with a revolver or semi-automatic guns, but ppl do hunt with high powered rifles. not everybody owns a gun to shoot cans or ppl. theres several sports that ppl use guns for. my uncle owns some guns, but he never would shoot a can or ppl. he goes and shoots clay targets. its just another sport. we're never gonna agree on this. theres is just no way to get rid of all the guns. they already melt down a bunch of guns every year, and it does no dent on whats out there, even if there were no more that would be made. ppl in america have a right to do what they want, thats why we have the law. just cuz ur country doesn't have the law doesn't mean ppl don't shoot ppl. if twenty ppl get shot, or two, somebody is still getting killed. it just makes no sense to ban all guns for the public when they can get them many other ways. ppl will eventually start making them, just like they did during prohibition with alcohol.

[AspirinE]

bombs aren't hard to make. theres plenty of books and websites dedicated to that. if bombs were so hard to make, then why are ppl killed every day in the war cuz of car bombs, and why did the Oklahoma City bombing happen? ppl can do anything they want nowadays.

still irrelivant to the issue. Terrorism on scale of bombing requires higher moral degeneration, well unless of course the teens in america become even more stupid.

making it harder to get a gun won't stop anything. theres just too many of them already out there. u can get one if u really wanted to, and the ppl that would really want to would be the psychopaths.

Ill reapeat myself... AVAILABILITY. If i really wanted to id steal a Nuke in an incredible will to create a massacre, if nukes were sold in the shop near by that massacre would have been much easier to accomplis and i would more likely do it.

canada may have been a copy cat, but theres still plenty of this shit happening. its not that rare that ppl get shot. maybe not at the same volume, but ppl get shot all over the world every day.

so people get shot, and guns should be allowed because of that? thats like saying "mommy i will do drugs because the other kids do drugs"..

i guess ur right about ppl not hunting with a revolver or semi-automatic guns, but ppl do hunt with high powered rifles. not everybody owns a gun to shoot cans or ppl. theres several sports that ppl use guns for. my uncle owns some guns, but he never would shoot a can or ppl. he goes and shoots clay targets. its just another sport.

if its a sport, use rubber bullets, its not a sport its an power-crave, people wanna shoot a gun because its "cool". The more people get used to guns the more immoral they become, its a step back in society.

theres is just no way to get rid of all the guns. they already melt down a bunch of guns every year, and it does no dent on whats out there, even if there were no more that would be made.

Who said it has to be done in one day, do it slowly, ear by year, i believe i (if i remember correctly) UK use to have more loose laws on guns and now that they are less available, crimes dropped.

ppl in america have a right to do what they want, thats why we have the law. just cuz ur country doesn't have the law doesn't mean ppl don't shoot ppl. if twenty ppl get shot, or two, somebody is still getting killed. it just makes no sense to ban all guns for the public when they can get them many other ways. ppl will eventually start making them, just like they did during prohibition with alcohol.

Which part of "AVAILABILITY OF LETHAL WEAPONS ENCREASE THE NUMBERS OF MURDERS FROM THE LETHAL WEAPONS" do you not understand? There has to be a clear message that guns are bad, not "ohh hey we sell guns, but kids, guns are very bad" ... it should be "kids, guns are bad, only criminals own guns". If people will make guns, put them in jail, to send a message. Guns are not alcohol, people dont need em, yes not even for so called "sports".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynCsFZ3AS3E
"i dont want any money folks, i just love to rent guns hahhahah"

[Kez]

Blah blah blah.

They won't change shit. They said this same shit when Columbine happened. Still obviously no change as it's been repeated basically.