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Postby Rapsoldier101 » Apr 25th, '07, 08:57

Obviously You Prolly Think It Was Fucked Up (Which It Was) But Im Hearing Alot Of Different Blames And I Was Thinking What You Guys Think Caused This UnRevealing Innocent Looking Student To do this? i think he got picked on, i tihnk it was jus another columbine
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Postby Global » Apr 25th, '07, 09:36

Didn't you hear he didn't like rich kids :flower:
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Postby AspirinE » Apr 25th, '07, 09:54

Product of immoral society.
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Postby Slimm » Apr 25th, '07, 10:08

The gun laws made it easyer, but even if the gun laws are different in USA it would still have happend. It isnt the blame of the gun laws or the security, just the blame of a kid with a sick mind.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Apr 25th, '07, 15:21

there's lots of shit to blame, american gun laws, the boys state of mind, society to a point


but what does blaming other people solve ?


dont blame people or laws change the fucking laws and help the people
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Postby D@vid » Apr 25th, '07, 16:37

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:there's lots of shit to blame, american gun laws, the boys state of mind, society to a point


but what does blaming other people solve ?


dont blame people or laws change the fucking laws and help the people




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Postby AspirinE » Apr 25th, '07, 16:41

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:there's lots of shit to blame, american gun laws, the boys state of mind, society to a point


but what does blaming other people solve ?


dont blame people or laws change the fucking laws and help the people



U make laws to help people. And american gun laws are certainly responsible for immoralizing people to the point where they think they all needa own guns, the result of which is teenagers with an identity crisis having access to lethal weapons that are capable of killing 30 people.
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Postby Sophie » Apr 25th, '07, 16:52

it's like that saying that my media teacher said. 'gun's don't kill people - people kill people.' but, yes, i think the gun laws are most of the blame, & the fact that it took the police & everyone 2 freakin hours to tell everyone there was a psycho on the loose -_- all you have to do to get a gun is sign a piece of paper saying some shit which i can't remember :unsure: if they haven't all ready [which they haven't have they? or am i wrong?] they need to make it harder to get a gun cos you can get one pretty much anywhere - on the streets, or just walking into a shop that sells them. why a shop sells gun's in the first place is one thing i don't get. :unsure:
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Postby joelle » Apr 25th, '07, 18:58

Of course it's easy to blame what happened on gun laws.
But do you really think someone crazy enough to shoot and kill 30 people and himself would really have been stopped if he didn't have a gun?
The guy was mental. I don't blame society. I blame him.
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Postby Big-T » Apr 25th, '07, 19:08

u can blame it on multiple things but i think it all boils down 2 the student being able 2 buy a gun and just do it with no remorse. Its that simple and fucked up
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Apr 25th, '07, 19:19

joelle wrote:Of course it's easy to blame what happened on gun laws.
But do you really think someone crazy enough to shoot and kill 30 people and himself would really have been stopped if he didn't have a gun?
The guy was mental. I don't blame society. I blame him.


lol yes is he never had a gun it would have stopped him from shooting everyone


that im 100% sure off
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Postby joelle » Apr 25th, '07, 19:22

^ woudln't have stopped him from commiting another disgusting crime though. Which he would have done, without a doubt, even if he didn't have a gun.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Apr 25th, '07, 19:24

joelle wrote:^ woudln't have stopped him from commiting another disgusting crime though. Which he would have done, without a doubt, even if he didn't have a gun.


maybe so but if he never had a gun that many people wouldnt have died

if he never had his hands on weoponary what other cime could he have did ?

nothing near as bad as the massacre thats for sure
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Postby joelle » Apr 25th, '07, 19:29

How do you know that many people wouldn't have died?
Obviously he had no qualms about killing the masses..for all we know, whatever craziness inside of him would have built up and in ten years he'd be a serial killer.
Blaming shit on guns doesn't always apply. It's the person behind the gun we have to think about.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Apr 25th, '07, 19:32

joelle wrote:How do you know that many people wouldn't have died?
Obviously he had no qualms about killing the masses..for all we know, whatever craziness inside of him would have built up and in ten years he'd be a serial killer.
Blaming shit on guns doesn't always apply. It's the person behind the gun we have to think about.


i agree its the people with the gun but take the gun away form the person and they got a harder time trying to kill someone

and well we cant say what would have happened maybe he would have cracked n burutaly murdered 1 person..got caught in put in jail..alot better than a massacre wouldnt you agree ?
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