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9-11 by the american government.

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9-11 by the american government.

Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 00:39

Police State 9-11: Rise Of The Martial Law

http://stage6.divx.com/Louder-Than-Word ... ose-Change

watch that and tell me 911 was not a scheme conducted by the american government to re-unite the country aswell as many other profitable results.
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 00:44

9/11 was a Wagnerian opera...
OIL Sisters @ War...
We are the stupid consummers, the echo of their actions, the moral imorality of faceless Power...
We are Trivia.
We are dispensable; we can be shot dead, collateraly damaged, exploded in buildings, on trains, on the air, fight in wars that have no meaning or purpose...

We have to wake up.

if a goverment can kill the people president (jfk) they CAN commit any act they wish in order to suceed there mission which is world domination and brain washed followers.
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Postby Hadez » May 16th, '07, 01:54

wow... i dont really know wut to say, changed my view on the whole thing. :unsure:
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 02:12

Hadez wrote:wow... i dont really know wut to say, changed my view on the whole thing. :unsure:


you dont know how glad i am to hear that.If it only changes ONE persons view thats a good thing.So many people shot down investigators during the jfk assasinations branding them 'traitors' and 'nut cases'.The 911 attacks effected and still till this day effects every single person walking this earth.

watch the film

make your own mind up

ask questions and demand answers.

makes me so damn angry.
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 03:10

why did the government do it?

watch the following...

Police State 9-11: Rise Of The Martial Law
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 03:17

i'll watch it if u can find another link. divx takes too long to buffer and shit for me


but i already know its gonna be an hour and a half of my time that i wasted


i bet u believe they blew up the levees in new orleans too
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 03:45

D@vid wrote:i'll watch it if u can find another link. divx takes too long to buffer and shit for me


but i already know its gonna be an hour and a half of my time that i wasted


i bet u believe they blew up the levees in new orleans too


er no infact i dont.Remember these videos dont display 'therioes' just mearly facts.If the facts then result in us questioning the events that took place during september 11th 2001 that obviously there are questions that need answers.

Its usually only patriotism that blinds so many of the american citizens.

Ive done extensive research into this as im pretty sure people such as asp has also.Let me throw just one piece of evidence out there.....

goverment officials released a case folder entitled 'Rebuilding America's Defenses (September 2000)' a quote appears in Chapter V, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force". The full quote is as follows:

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 04:00

stating "facts" in movies is real easy, just look at michael moore's or al gore's movies. and im not saying it isn't possible, but i just doubt it until i watch the movie and maybe do a little more research on it. i also think its easy to point out coincidences after they happen. such as all the people saying the world is gonna end on 6/6/06. its stupid of course because it didn't happen, and im sure theres some reason ppl have for why it didn't, but if it would have happened it would have just been a weird coincidence imo. i know we couldn't have proved it because we would be dead, but it just would have been easy to say told u so after the coincidence. there many things we say are gonna happen, but never do


but ill watch the movie if u have another link, cuz i hate divx. and ill try to watch it without a biased opinion
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 04:02

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7770214767

watch that film bruv

its long but it un-biased stating ONLY facts.It even shows how Michael Moore actually done bush a favour....watch it if u can man.

then lets discuss our thoughts.
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 04:12

i don't wanna watch it now cuz its 3 hours long, maybe tomorrow i might have time


but im gonna say one last thing, and that is u also have to look into who is behind the facts and polls. i watched a few minutes and it reminded me of something when i saw some lady say something about a poll and that 50% of New Yorkers believed the US was behind the attacks. u can never just take a person's word, u have to look into things and the purpose for why that person did that pole, the way the question was stated to the people being polled, and that person's reputation. i know its a cliche, but don't trust anyone
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 04:16

D@vid wrote:i don't wanna watch it now cuz its 3 hours long, maybe tomorrow i might have time


but im gonna say one last thing, and that is u also have to look into who is behind the facts and polls. i watched a few minutes and it reminded me of something when i saw some lady say something about a poll and that 50% of New Yorkers believed the US was behind the attacks. u can never just take a person's word, u have to look into things and the purpose for why that person did that pole, the way the question was stated to the people being polled, and that person's reputation. i know its a cliche, but don't trust anyone


exactly you gotta look behind who is putting out the information we are being spoon fed.This documentary does so.

However aswell as being wary about people who question the enforces of 911 tragic events lets ask questions of our media who is so obviously in the back pocket of our corrupt goverments.

seriously watch the full thing when you got time and lets talk bruv.
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 04:29

don't wanna keep dragging this out. but i don't see how it is obvious about the media being involved with the government. they say that the owners of the media groups are left winged or right winged, or whatever they are, and i do believe that, but i haven't seen anything to say that the government controls them. the owners/editors/producers of a news station or newspaper might be heavily part of one governmental "group," and may choose to hire ppl that are only part of that "group" but i don't think the gov tells them what to do or say


this is my last post for this until i watch the movie. i hope :sweating:


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Postby AspirinE » May 16th, '07, 04:30

The way i see it, its not that much of a consipracy as the uneducated kids that made loose change suggest.

Simple state sponsored terrorism that achieved the needed goal of a war. A war which has a main objective to capture oil, same as WW1, same as WW2.
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Postby Tash8 » May 16th, '07, 04:38

AspirinE wrote:The way i see it, its not that much of a consipracy as the uneducated kids that made loose change suggest.

Simple state sponsored terrorism that achieved the needed goal of a war. A war which has a main objective to capture oil, same as WW1, same as WW2.


god damn, can you not use such hard words? j/p

I've seen a bunch of movies on this matter, it changed my views on it a lot, but then I change back saying "is the US that dumb?" if it is then why are we the top dogs?
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 04:38

seriously people i cant urge you to watch this documentary enough:

Police State 9-11: Rise Of The Martial Law

and i agree asp it isnt a conspiracy theroy its actual fact.If you watch the links i have posted you will see this.And david infact media are more corrupt then you would belive.

Infact media outlets have been used to sway peoples beiliefs, feelings and laws since world war one.All you have to do is refer yourself to the propaganda posters goverment officials putout towards citizens during ww1 and 2 , casting them 'cowards' or it being 'treason' if they didnt enlist in the country armys.
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