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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 05:41

AspirinE wrote:Like phonecalls: in loose change they are saying that at that height.. yada yada .. they couldn't have made calls. But they don't take into account that the plane took a plunge to the height of the center of the WTC a long way before it hit the buildings, coz it certainly didnt fall on the building from the sky....


no no they was talking about the phone calls made on the flight 93 that supposedly crashed in pittsburgh,that plane DID NOT DIP and remained at a steady height air records suggest.

AspirinE wrote:as for the alex jones video, i think i watched it before but cant be bothered now, since i have just loaded a dvd rip of "the prestige". lmao...


lol but promise me ya check it out man,i just wanna hear people views after watching this film.
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 05:46

i think asp was saying u gotta make ur own conclusion about this one, if he did then i agree. we can still debate it, but theres a high chance we may never know the real truth
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 05:54

D@vid wrote:i think asp was saying u gotta make ur own conclusion about this one, if he did then i agree. we can still debate it, but theres a high chance we may never know the real truth


all we can do is sit down and have the facts put before us.Your probably thinking that the video is gonna contain biased opinions and slanders blah blah blah,it doesnt.It exmains ACTUAL FACTUAL evidence via documents,footage and various goverment sources not to mention actual witness'.

its not about conclusions its about mis-proving facts and questions we are asking the goverment to answer.However they seem unable to do so.

Police State 9-11: Rise Of The Martial Law watch watch watch lol



oh and when bush is asked about possible goverment involvment in the 911 attacks....

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Postby AspirinE » May 16th, '07, 06:01

@ real, they had calls from the plane that was in new york, i dont remember in witch documentary, maybe i mxed up with loose change but it was brought up as part of the arguement before.


anyways, im not gonna argue, cause a country that killed its president and got away with it can certainly kill 3000 and get away with it, just like they murdered 600 000 in iraq and lie that its 3000 lmao. (a number closer to the number of people they lost so it seems like revenge)
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Postby Tash8 » May 16th, '07, 06:01

iraq is the next vietnam with less casualties.
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Postby D@vid » May 16th, '07, 06:09

AspirinE wrote:@ real, they had calls from the plane that was in new york, i dont remember in witch documentary, maybe i mxed up with loose change but it was brought up as part of the arguement before.


anyways, im not gonna argue, cause a country that killed its president and got away with it can certainly kill 3000 and get away with it, just like they murdered 600 000 in iraq and lie that its 3000 lmao. (a number closer to the number of people they lost so it seems like revenge)



they say 30,000 not 3,000. so it doesn't make it seem like revenge
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Postby Hadez » May 16th, '07, 06:19

ok so i watched the first 40 min of the martial law video, and its just a buncha protesters and cops shooing the guy outa their face.
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 06:21

Hadez wrote:ok so i watched the first 40 min of the martial law video, and its just a buncha protesters and cops shooing the guy outa their face.


:unsure:

his covering the protest outside the republic meeting at msg,newyork.Approaching various protestors and polticians and gathering view points.

If you keep watching you see how it ties in with 911 bruv.
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 17:06

intresting video about the actual buildings themselfs explaining why it couldnt possibly be knocked down via plane collisions.

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Postby $0 R3@L » May 16th, '07, 17:57

danigantt wrote:either way it goes, someone is spoon-feeding me information.


so, i say.. fuck it. it's happened.. it's over with.. we're at war. we would have been at war anyway. and even if this was true, no one is going to do anything about it.


done deal.



wow talk about defeatist.

Your attitude of ''well we're at war so fuck it lets just bend over and be bottom checked'' was EXACTLY the goverments intent in creating a 'pearl harbour' like tradegy.

Thousands of lifes have been lost during 911 and continue to be lost as we speak due to the war that resulted due to a 'hunt for bin laden' which happend to have switched into 'mission dis-arm saddem'.

Do you not see how this is slowly putting the world towards a ONE world government rule? talks about each of us having electronic tags and i.d cards with all your information stored and let them be able to track your every move.Talks about banning citizens use of weapons like owning a pistol for protection,everyone knows a unarmed enemy is a weak one who can show little or no resitence to a takeover *cough iraqi cough*

you know much about history danni?

well ever heard of a incident which took place in Berlin on February 27, 1933?

The Reichstag fire is an extremely pivotal event in the establishment of Nazi Germany. It began on the night of February 27, 1933, when a Berlin fire station received an alarm that the Reichstag ("Parliament") building was ablaze. The fire seemed to have been started in several places, and by the time the police and firemen arrived a huge explosion had set nearly the entire building on fire. Looking for clues, the police quickly found Marinus van der Lubbe, half-naked, cowering behind the building. Van der Lubbe was a mentally ill former Dutch Communist and unemployed bricklayer who had been floating around Europe for the last two years prior to 1933.

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Postby Hadez » May 16th, '07, 20:59

i finally finished the video last night, and wow... even if it wasn't true there's still some interesting facts in there :sweating: . the beginning was boring, runnin out buggin people was stupid. then after about 50 minutes into it it started gettin good. propz for the video So Real :worship:
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Postby joelle » May 17th, '07, 01:08

Anyone who believes it was a conspiracy is a fucking dumbass.
Enough said.
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Postby Hadez » May 17th, '07, 01:17

joelle wrote:Anyone who believes it was a conspiracy is a fucking dumbass.
Enough said.

whether or not this video is true is no concern to me. and im not on one side or the other.
but i doubt you watched that video, and i doubt you did any research about the conspiracy side of the debate. yet you're just talkin out of your ass that's more open then your mind is. so callin people who actually take the time to research this shit a "fucking dumbass" is stupid and ignorant from somebody who made an ignorant biased conclusion.
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Postby joelle » May 17th, '07, 01:26

Oh, I've done no research?
Ok. Glad you summed up my formation of an opinion based on....nothing.
Anyways, let's assume I did no research. Let's assume I have not looked at countless conspiracy websites and videos, and let's assume I did not, at one point, believe the conspiracy myself. Let's assume I did not read Popular Science's point-by-point rebuttal of everything shown in that video. Let's assume I'm a conspiracy nut. All it takes to see this is bullshit is a little common sense.
If the American government has no qualms about killing thousands of its own innocent civilians, and possibly hundreds of thousands in the conflicts that followed, then why the fuck is the creator of that video still alive? You're telling me, they're going to risk exposure after all this careful planning for some college kid and a poorly constructed video? You're telling me they can kill thouands upon thousands of people, and not one dude with too much time on his hands?
Ok. Right.
But go back to assuming I don't know what I'm talking about just because I don't eat up everything I hear without thinking things through.
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Postby Hadez » May 17th, '07, 01:30

um Alex Jones in not a college kid
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