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Re: The Ghetto

Postby AspirinE » Aug 11th, '07, 17:33

shady4life! wrote:If u were livin in a ghetto tell me wat u wud do to "uplift ur community". Not as easy said as done. And its not always their falt that they r there either so dont try to blame them.

Firstly, im from a poor area myself, from an industrial city. From a one room appartment on a building with bars on every window. Whould would i do to solve it? Join a political party and vote my ass for to get more money spent in my community. But I know for a fact that in most cases, regions become shitty because of the people themselves. Don't blame them lol. People who work move out and get there shit together, lazy motherfuckers stay in that community.

I can understand y they brag cuz life there is very difficult and if someone made it out and became rich then they shud feel proud.

Im talking community uplifting here not, personal showing off. Bragging does nothing for communities, infact bragging is nothing but an ego trip.


i agree with that but you dont really know that for sure if all rappers who come from ghettos dont donate a portion of their money. And ugly-ass cars....? Yeah Lamborginies r really ugly and full of junk. Thats y they so damn expensive.

I dont know, and i dont care. But some brag about it.

Lamborgini is one of the most overated shitty cars from the 90's ever. Unless ur city has smooth ass roads throughout the country, like switzerland or other country full of rich motherfuckers, ur never even gonna be able to even drive that shit around. I im a pretty wealthy country now, with very good raods, the few lamborginis they have here, cant even leave the tourist area straight road coz its set too low. And about speed, u can forget about accelerating it full speed, coz once again, if ur not a smooth road ur not getting no where fast... or neither are getting to ur top speed since the car simply will have a block on the speed limit in some countries.

ITs the kind of car that is perfect to waste money on, fuck a saving for your kids to have money in the future, fuck a insurance for an occasion if u go bankrupt, you know. ;) Don't fall for such idiocy for real man.

Yeah i dont know y the government does not donate money to areas like that, its ridiculous. Its even mostly their fault that they exist. They shud clean up their own messes. But if they aint doin it then somebody got to.

That was my point exactly, Ghettos had there people doing something with the black panther party, but instead of following that road, young dumb kids, just play with the dgenerate culture of primitive survivalism were they listen to idiots for advice (in this case many of the rappers are the idiots giving the example). Im not saying such things happen only in US, but the masses of people really underestimate themselves are too damn selfish to do something about bad examples and really sometimes are just not good enough parents, to make the next generation aware.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby shady4life! » Aug 11th, '07, 18:03

Firstly, im from a poor area myself, from an industrial city. From a one room appartment on a building with bars on every window. Whould would i do to solve it? Join a political party and vote my ass for to get more money spent in my community. But I know for a fact that in most cases, regions become shitty because of the people themselves. Don't blame them lol. People who work move out and get there shit together, lazy motherfuckers stay in that community.

Gettin outta a poor society especially without proper education is very difficult. Not all children hav parents that care about their childs studies, and instead of sendin them to school they send them to go work and sell items for a livin on the streetsmakin very little money. Some people like that live in Ghettos. Its possible to get out of it and live a wealthy life but it is very hard and can take very long, and even a life time if u dont hav a good education. We learned about some of this shit in geography class a few years ago, about people livin in shanty towns, which are African Ghettos, and r like ten times worse than American. And i dont remember how long my teacher said but in order for a man to get out of it and live in a good well built house, still not earnin that much, it can take him like i think 20 years. I dont know exactly but it can take a very long time. A few people ever get that far, but its possible. Its not always poor people's fault that they r poor, so u shud never be resiliant to donate money to them unless u know that it is bein pocketed by someone else or used for the wrong purposes.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby AspirinE » Aug 11th, '07, 18:13

Gettin outta a poor society especially without proper education is very difficult. Not all children hav parents that care about their childs studies,

Dude, it happens everywhere, if u dont wanna live like shit, MAKE UR CHILD go to school, no kid in the world wants to go school, they are obligated to to, when parents get too lazy thats when they stop going. And who's to blame, plus at 14-15, u can already get ur own ass into school, a free school and work ur ass off.

and instead of sendin them to school they send them to go work and sell items for a livin on the streetsmakin very little money. Some people like that live in Ghettos. Its possible to get out of it and live a wealthy life but it is very hard and can take very long, and even a life time if u dont hav a good education.

And, u think everything is easy? My father carried crates till he was 25, now owns a factory, no finished secondary education. ITs just how much u want it. If it takes very long then u better be working pretty damn hard. Nobody in this world is gonna come get ur ass out the slums.


We learned about some of this shit in geography class a few years ago, about people livin in shanty towns, which are African Ghettos, and r like ten times worse than American. And i dont remember how long my teacher said but in order for a man to get out of it and live in a good well built house, still not earnin that much, it can take him like i think 20 years. I dont know exactly but it can take a very long time. A few people ever get that far, but its possible. Its not always poor people's fault that they r poor, so u shud never be resiliant to donate money to them unless u know that it is bein pocketed by someone else or used for the wrong purposes.


Im not saying its the poor peoples fault or that its easy, but there are some things in live that u need motivation to do.if a governament dont give a fuck about u, u can complain all you want, but the only way to fix it doing something with ur life. If every person in the "ghettos" and Slums of the sorts, worked harder their children would have it easier, eventually will be able to live better. And lazy people in one community make life harder for the people that work hard there.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby shady4life! » Aug 11th, '07, 18:38

I still think that we shud help them and donate money instead of just sittin back and refuse to do it since nobody else does. And dont call them lazy cuz its sad to say, but some poor people work twice as hard as u do each day, and can still barely afford a good meal, and will never get a factory like ur dad. But thats just the way life is. So we gotta do wat we can to help them.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby James R. » Aug 11th, '07, 20:58

There are so many things wrong with bad neighborhoods. For example where i grew up sucked. The schools sucked, the environment sucked, and businesses wouldn't build there so there were barely any jobs locally which meant that money people would make would have to be cut another way for transportation. Not to mention whenever someone gets money they don't stay in the hood, they leave, period. What they've started doing in my city is tearing down the ghettos and rebuilding them nice and enforcing a strict one strike policy. Pittsburgh was on it's way to becoming LA (the east end still kind of is) and now it's really on its way up.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby LoCoScousa » Aug 11th, '07, 22:18

shady4life! wrote:if u really knew the history of Ghettos then u wud not say shit like that.


I have my own "Ghetto," It's called Liverpool.

I'm not talking about the hard working people, its the young mobs, yobs and wanna be gangsters I'm on about.

Take for instance, (I doubt anyone here could say "No I haven't" to this.) when i was younger i had people hang around with me that were trouble causers, but in their way of trouble they would destroy property and other peoples pride and joy's just to amuse them self''s, I was always a fighter not a dick head like that, but i would go and smash someones house windows if they did it to mine or friends houses. (Like me or love me, i don't give a toss.)

Then you have the image of a gangster, selling drugs and getting people hooked, on top of that promoting crime... meaning that if a crack head (Ranging from an adult to a youngster.) would go out on the graft for a hit, with that you get up and coming youngsters that see it as a way out of the ghetto to sell drugs on a mass scale, so what happens? You end up with a drug war, communities bridge off into sections and won't socialize, creating gangs and wearing certain colours else you will be shot and so on.

Expand further on what you said though.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby AspirinE » Aug 12th, '07, 09:15

shady4life! wrote:I still think that we shud help them and donate money instead of just sittin back and refuse to do it since nobody else does. And dont call them lazy cuz its sad to say, but some poor people work twice as hard as u do each day, and can still barely afford a good meal, and will never get a factory like ur dad. But thats just the way life is. So we gotta do wat we can to help them.


And they never will, if they keep thinking somebody will help em through it thats my point. It doesnt matter the relevance to how easy life is for me, it matters how hard they are willing to try.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby shady4life! » Aug 12th, '07, 16:27

LoCoScousa wrote:
shady4life! wrote:if u really knew the history of Ghettos then u wud not say shit like that.


I have my own "Ghetto," It's called Liverpool.

I'm not talking about the hard working people, its the young mobs, yobs and wanna be gangsters I'm on about.

Take for instance, (I doubt anyone here could say "No I haven't" to this.) when i was younger i had people hang around with me that were trouble causers, but in their way of trouble they would destroy property and other peoples pride and joy's just to amuse them self''s, I was always a fighter not a dick head like that, but i would go and smash someones house windows if they did it to mine or friends houses. (Like me or love me, i don't give a toss.)

Then you have the image of a gangster, selling drugs and getting people hooked, on top of that promoting crime... meaning that if a crack head (Ranging from an adult to a youngster.) would go out on the graft for a hit, with that you get up and coming youngsters that see it as a way out of the ghetto to sell drugs on a mass scale, so what happens? You end up with a drug war, communities bridge off into sections and won't socialize, creating gangs and wearing certain colours else you will be shot and so on.

Expand further on what you said though.


Man i dont know about UK Ghettos but i know that the Ghettos in America, were all created by American authorities a long time ago to house black people. So whenever u see them sufferin stealin and sellin crack dont completely blame them, cuz it was the government that put them there. If they were given a nice neighbor hood to live and good job opportunities like white people ghettos wud not exist today. So i dont see the matter in tryin to help a poor society, that the government forced people to live in a long time ago, and neglected and still is.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby LoCoScousa » Aug 13th, '07, 09:39

shady4life! wrote:Man i dont know about UK Ghettos but i know that the Ghettos in America, were all created by American authorities a long time ago to house black people. So whenever u see them sufferin stealin and sellin crack dont completely blame them, cuz it was the government that put them there. If they were given a nice neighbor hood to live and good job opportunities like white people ghettos wud not exist today. So i dont see the matter in tryin to help a poor society, that the government forced people to live in a long time ago, and neglected and still is.



I know what your saying, i can relate to it all as we call "ghettos" here "estates".
Seriously though, if you stand any chance of making a better life in the "Ghetto" then people need to communicate and socialize, acknowledge whats going on in the ranks then bridge out to the younger and create a new way/lease of life, if they don't then the government is getting what they want.
I say what they want is because the don't want you to have their money, thats why you can get a rental house for like ten buff then spend all your dole on crack or any other drug that takes your fancy, only because it keeps you on a level you can be controlled at.
If we were all rich to a certain point, then the government would be fucked as most would rise up against our governments and their ideas, plus the fact the capital bank wouldn't be impressed in America as they ow China and Japan, between them its something like four point five billion out of a country that posses six point seven billion industry, two thirds of your industry to the other half of the world then you have the Jewish on the final and third piece of cake paying off government officials and bush to keep you at a level so they can shark into everything.

Like Tupac said though, "Some things will never change" and sadly enough, its true.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby $0 R3@L » Aug 13th, '07, 22:08

Hip hop make the 'hood' appealing to todays youth,so now everytime you hear someone say ''im in the hood'' its sorta corny and pathetic.Which is a shame and kind of a slap in the face.

If people have enough will power,determination and self respect they will face and beat any situation.

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Re: The Ghetto

Postby LoCoScousa » Sep 7th, '07, 01:37

$0 R3@L wrote:Those who are weak shall accept defeat and live in hope,you cant help the stubborn.


LoCoScousa wrote:Like Tupac said though, "Some things will never change" and sadly enough, its true.
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Re: The Ghetto

Postby Mc Cubz » Jan 7th, '08, 22:40

I probably wouldn't give money atm just because I dont have shit myself. in this world everyone is out for themselves, when I have nothing I get nothing of anyone, and this becomes a vicous cycle of me not wanting to give money to a next man, whether we talk about it on a man-to-man or country-to-country basis most ppl are selfish and care in most only for themselves, the government would never give money to africa where people die every day of causes we could prevent, and if they did our country wouldnt vote them in cos they want that money for their own uses, in the same way most ppl wouldnt agree that their money shud b used for the benefit of others, y shud i, its like unless a next man is going over to africa to give them man their life savings they cant even begin to criticize a next man for not giving money to the ghetto, its like it all boils down to selfishness, africa has been reported to saying its conditions are worse than in reality in order to recieve extra aid which these then-corrupt war=lords robb the money/aid anyway to buy more guns to rule even more and become more rich, in the same way if we gave moeny to the ghetto say for a music studio, which happens in my area, guaranteed it wudnt b used by the ppl tht deserve it but by gangs/bullies tht jus hogg it, same happens when u give nefin to newer bullies jus take the piss lol!
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