Ghostwriting: Good or Bad for Hip-Hop

[Tornado]

Checking the "Hip Hop Ghostwriters Thread" see http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic. ... 7&p=522461 , is this ghostwriting buisness good or bad for hip-hop. This is why i personally don't like it

The real people don't get credit
As Bar said, rappers are too busy acting like buisnessmen to write their own lyrics, so they usually hire struggling rappers or lesser known ones to do it for them. It's lazy and it probably corrupts mainstream. Give props to the real people

It's against what Hip-Hop is about
When Hip-Hop was invented, it was a way of expressing yourself and your views, but rappers are too busy sponsering clothes or shit like that to care, while the real workers are looking for a breakthrough. It aint fair..

ur opinons and who else you think hires ghostwriters?

[Kojack]

Unimportant i'd say. If u got the lyrics, u make the song and its over.

[patwivo]

this is what killed hip hop
rappers makin their own clothes and shoes not writing their own lyrics
i think that if ur too busy doin that and u cant write ur own lyrics then stay outta the rap game
i think thats the fakest thing ever
especially having personal songs ghostwritten

[Kojack]

Songs have been ghostwriten ever since the invention of music, i dont see why it should end now.

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

well think of it this way

Dre makes one of the best beats in hip hop

Eminem writes the best lyrics, completely lyrical but at same time meaningful

Dre then puts the best delivery possible on it

together both think of a crazy concept

put that together you get a fucking awesome track to listen to, no fualt in the lyrics or in the beat or nothing

i mean, i think the ghostwriter should get 100% recognition for the lyrics, i remember a justin timberlake song had "written by (some guy forget his name)" when the video came on TV, so i think if the lyrics are ghost writing that should have to be put on the video or else the video should be banned from MTV ect., coz if that happened everyone would get credit for there writing and rappers wouldnt not put it on the video or else they lose out on a shit load of publicity ya know


when rappers have ghostwriters but dont admit it then i lose respect for the rapper, but if like dre you come out and say you dont mind people writing your lyrics and you dont hide the fact that jay z, royceda 59 ect. ghost wrote for him, then i aint bothered coz the tracks are amazing

[pawel]

word up Bar, ghostwriters should get full recognition for the lyrics they wrote.


but... I don't concider a ghostwritten song (like all of the ones by Puffy) Hip-Hop, just rap music


EDIT: so even Young Jeezy and Lil' Wayne are making hip-hop if they're writing there own shit maybe fake ass bitchy hip-hop, but I prefer that then some stupid ass arrogant rich metrosexual P. Diddy making rap music

[HAYZI]

its not necessarily a bad thing but it could become one.

if i know sumin is havin there lyrics ghost written i wont give them the same respect as someone who does, it makes them a performer not an artist. but at the same time for a struggling rapper it gives them a way of earnin some money and gettin there rhymes heard which benefits the writer and performer,

but the way this business is going and the less real its gettin ghost writing etc could get out of hand and then it would be a bit shit cos hip hop is meant to be real it aint supposed to be about good lookin performers sellin records written by someone else, but superstars like dre and diddy u cant hate on them for openly spitten ghost written verses