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should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

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Postby LoCoScousa » Jul 27th, '07, 00:49

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Sarah wrote:Why would you want to have kids? :confusion:

:confusion: reproduction? :confusion: to have wee lil Angies runn around?? :confusion: :confusion: :confusion: lol as a symbol of ur love :shifty: or accident

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i believe all kids are accident :y: a baby should never be pland :smoking:


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Angie wrote:u spamming bastard


How nice. :flutter:

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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby Nu Syd » Jul 28th, '07, 08:48

no, its still murder.
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby Kojack » Aug 1st, '07, 02:21

E Omine Padre, e filli, e spiritum sante, In Jesus Christ's eyes, Abortion is concidered as a Murder
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby AspirinE » Aug 1st, '07, 17:58

Kojack wrote:E Omine Padre, e filli, e spiritum sante, In Jesus Christ's eyes, Abortion is concidered as a Murder



Jesus-freaks shouldnt be worried about babies not getting a chance to see this sinfull world. They'll just go heaven quick, in fact it is a time and effort saver :y: . Christians all around the world should in fact be aborting their children and letting them have their inevitable destiny..

Ugh.. the stupidy among them. Abortion is a debatable issue, since a babie that is still in the womb, is not an actual human character yet, its the parents that raise and nourish a kid that make a person an actual person and give birth to conscience. Every one of us makes mistakes and getting knocked up can be of them, as much as it is ones choice to have sex without a condom, it is also their choice to consider AT THE EARLY STAGES of pregnancy, if they want to have the baby, if u dont give women that freedom, they'll resort to doing the abortion themselves.. from what no one wins. It's either u allow abortion and morally enforce choice or u down-right criminalize it to every degree possible, theres no half-step solution.
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby joelle » Aug 1st, '07, 19:55

I believe in the morality of choice, but the choice of the woman is when she has sex. That's her choice, and once it's used up, she should have to deal with the consequences.
Wishful thinking, of course, and there will always be people who cannot handle that responsiblity. There will always be abortions. Making them illegal wouldn't do anything.
Still. I can't bring myself to respect those who get abortions (except, obviously, in extreme circumstances.)
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby Kojack » Aug 1st, '07, 21:42

AspirinE wrote:
Kojack wrote:E Omine Padre, e filli, e spiritum sante, In Jesus Christ's eyes, Abortion is concidered as a Murder



Jesus-freaks shouldnt be worried about babies not getting a chance to see this sinfull world. They'll just go heaven quick, in fact it is a time and effort saver :y: . Christians all around the world should in fact be aborting their children and letting them have their inevitable destiny..

Ugh.. the stupidy among them. Abortion is a debatable issue, since a babie that is still in the womb, is not an actual human character yet, its the parents that raise and nourish a kid that make a person an actual person and give birth to conscience. Every one of us makes mistakes and getting knocked up can be of them, as much as it is ones choice to have sex without a condom, it is also their choice to consider AT THE EARLY STAGES of pregnancy, if they want to have the baby, if u dont give women that freedom, they'll resort to doing the abortion themselves.. from what no one wins. It's either u allow abortion and morally enforce choice or u down-right criminalize it to every degree possible, theres no half-step solution.


:angry: You INFIDEL, childs when they are borned they bear the sin of Protoplast Adam and Eva
They won't go to Heaven! We SHOULD BURN YOU ON A STAKE

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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby AspirinE » Aug 1st, '07, 22:13

Kojack wrote: :angry: You INFIDEL, childs when they are borned they bear the sin of Protoplast Adam and Eva
They won't go to Heaven! We SHOULD BURN YOU ON A STAKE

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That would make god a judgmental fuck-head. Since he ultimately controls the universe, u'd think he himself could spare the children that fail to be born a chance, but he labels them with the sin of some ancestor and sends the little babies of miscarriage right to hell.... lol. How are aborted embrios any more different? It would makes God and the beloved Nazi fuck-head, Jesus, Hypocrites and sinfull liars. God is without sin, thus in theory if he judges anyone without their actions he breaks one of his own commandments about judging others, in fact he will break the commandment anyway, since all god does is create and judge.

When you put it that way to any preacher, Christian or bible scholar, they'll say god is wise and the babies are those with least sin, unable to make decisions yet, thus they probably get the heaven pass. It contradicts. The most evolved of the christians, those with more elaborate excuses will say "God knows what life the dead embryo would've lived, given that it would have life, thus he will know how to judge".

In conclusion, if you believe in the concept of God and the bible being true, you believe all living things will get the right judgment and the ticket to the right afterlife regardless of what happens to the being. Babies go to heaven.
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Postby Tomega » Sep 24th, '07, 23:27

AspirinE wrote:
Darjan333 wrote:well,in one hand yes,because some of them are still kids and they wouldnt care about the baby,but in the other hand-NO!
They could be more careful and there will be no babys....



depends on which month

i would consider an abortion to be legal before the first weeks passes
at least while the embryo aint developed its brain


so you mean they still can abort you?
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby Tornado » Sep 25th, '07, 13:30

Obviously people should know what they're getting into before they go having underage sex, and i know some people would use abortion as a way to run away from the responsibities of parenting (sad but true) but even though, for the majority, i still feel like people should be given a choice. I know religious people would say its wrong, but according to the bible, for example, there should be no black people. You can't take everthing you see or hear to be true. It contradicts too much, like Asp said
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby cellphonesweetheart » Oct 5th, '07, 08:46

I believe that women should have the freedom of choice in the first trimester granted the fact that many of these babies are being born to people who can not give them a stable home but i also believe that abortions should be well documented in health records and no more then one is allowed to each women. Abortion should not be used as a form of birth control more of a second chance on the parents future.
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby Kez » Oct 7th, '07, 10:35

Yeah, it's their choice
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby G-spot » Oct 25th, '07, 02:13

topdawgizalaw wrote:like they are now? discuss this serious debatable topic




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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby bodaciousent » Nov 9th, '07, 07:19

I think abortion is murder unless there's a serious reason for it. like my aunt has a handicap disability and got pregnant but the doctor said she would die if she carried the baby so she had to get one. She was upset about it and I would be too. Also rape is another reason because it isn't your fault if your raped. All I know is if I get pregnant im keeping my kid even if it is rape because I would hate to not know what my kid was like and obviously god intended it to happen and wanted me to have the baby..That's how I feel.. if your gonna be stupid and get knocked up with one night stands or w/e and get pregnant then get an abortion to me that's iresponable and your murdering your baby. That's my opinion.
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Re: should abortion be available to people who havent been raped

Postby bodaciousent » Nov 9th, '07, 07:25

And to answer one of the members questions since I took 3 years of health classes because I wanted to be in the health field before becoming a rapper. You are allowed to get an abortion up to the 4th month after the 4th month it is the 2nd trimester and your not allowed to get an abortion.and to Sarah who says she doesn't want kids it doesn't hurt that bad. the contractions hurt more then the actual birth and once your baby is in your arms is all worth it trust me..but adoption is nice too there really strict though and you got to go through ALOT to adopt.
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