September 11th

[notoriouS-K-M]

you dont seriously believe that america would attack itself do you?
wow dude thats sad for you to think somthing like that

There you go with that patriotism shit. America WOULD do something like this because, ultimately, it isn't about America........it's about money. It's about these corporations (that dictate the US government) creating colonies for themselves. It's about the kind of profit that the corporate owners made off this war, the kind of profit they gained from creating these banana republics. Damn I can't even begin to imagine how much richer Dick Cheney has gotten since 9/11.

[Emadyville]

The gov't was involved there's too many contradictions and reasons for doing it. It makes me sick. god bless those who died.

you dont seriously believe that america would attack itself do you?
wow dude thats sad for you to think somthing like that

No it's sad when people are ignorant, but hey, ignorance is bliss.

[Cwayon_Murder]

you dont seriously believe that america would attack itself do you?
wow dude thats sad for you to think somthing like that

There you go with that patriotism shit. America WOULD do something like this because, ultimately, it isn't about America........it's about money. It's about these corporations (that dictate the US government) creating colonies for themselves. It's about the kind of profit that the corporate owners made off this war, the kind of profit they gained from creating these banana republics. Damn I can't even begin to imagine how much richer Dick Cheney has gotten since 9/11.

This.

When it comes to money and politics, morals and logic mean close to nothing.

[Deadishot]

ah yet another 9/11 thread where we talking about conspiracies, and people disagree, than we get 3 page long replys trying to prove the other person wrong and at the end of the day, no one will change there mind and all this was just a waste of time....


btw anyone know when they are soppose to rebuild the towers? are they even doing that anymore?

[<Stiiccy>]

No matter what anyone says, I will never believe that america attacked itself...Im sorry but I dont think the world is that evil
dont get me wrong the world is fucked up..
but that is just wrong..
I mean what the fuck do you think happened? Bush called a fuckin secret meeting about plotting to kill ultumitley 2,976 people?
And think about it...america has spent sooooooooooo much fucking money on this war its not even funny...So there for where is the money coming from?
All the conspiricies are retarded..
Ive never heard such bullshit in my life

[Solace]

i could care less about how it was done

im just sad of the result

[Emadyville]

No matter what anyone says, I will never believe that america attacked itself...Im sorry but I dont think the world is that evil
dont get me wrong the world is fucked up..
but that is just wrong..
I mean what the fuck do you think happened? Bush called a fuckin secret meeting about plotting to kill ultumitley 2,976 people?
And think about it...america has spent sooooooooooo much fucking money on this war its not even funny...So there for where is the money coming from?
All the conspiricies are retarded..
Ive never heard such bullshit in my life

Hey man I feel you. I understand your argument 100%. Actually, that's the main reason people believe it, because they don't believe people could be that evil. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, I'm just saying do a little research, look into, see what the facts are and see what the theorists say, compare them. The only way to live in this world nowadays is to be educated, educate yourself on the facts. ANd if you don't, that's fine, I'll still respect you. Sometimes I just want people to look at the big picture, I could go into several huge reasons besides the facts of 9/11 of why they could have done this. ANd to be honest, in regards to your post, I don't even think Bush was involved. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, it just bothers me about what I think happened as it does that you think people like me are crazy.

Edit: !0 Minutes, that's all I ask. If this doesn't make you want to look into at all, then I will shut up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

[<Stiiccy>]

No matter what anyone says, I will never believe that america attacked itself...Im sorry but I dont think the world is that evil
dont get me wrong the world is fucked up..
but that is just wrong..
I mean what the fuck do you think happened? Bush called a fuckin secret meeting about plotting to kill ultumitley 2,976 people?
And think about it...america has spent sooooooooooo much fucking money on this war its not even funny...So there for where is the money coming from?
All the conspiricies are retarded..
Ive never heard such bullshit in my life

Hey man I feel you. I understand your argument 100%. Actually, that's the main reason people believe it, because they don't believe people could be that evil. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, I'm just saying do a little research, look into, see what the facts are and see what the theorists say, compare them. The only way to live in this world nowadays is to be educated, educate yourself on the facts. ANd if you don't, that's fine, I'll still respect you. Sometimes I just want people to look at the big picture, I could go into several huge reasons besides the facts of 9/11 of why they could have done this. ANd to be honest, in regards to your post, I don't even think Bush was involved. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, it just bothers me about what I think happened as it does that you think people like me are crazy.

Edit: !0 Minutes, that's all I ask. If this doesn't make you want to look into at all, then I will shut up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Ok I whatched that video, and Im still not convienced that the goverment had involvement in that
Terrorist tried to blow up the trade center before with a bomb in 1993..so it wouldnt surprise me if they had planted bombs in the building...
Why the hell are you so set on blaming the goverment?

[Cwayon_Murder]

No matter what anyone says, I will never believe that america attacked itself...Im sorry but I dont think the world is that evil
dont get me wrong the world is fucked up..
but that is just wrong..
I mean what the fuck do you think happened? Bush called a fuckin secret meeting about plotting to kill ultumitley 2,976 people?
And think about it...america has spent sooooooooooo much fucking money on this war its not even funny...So there for where is the money coming from?
All the conspiricies are retarded..
Ive never heard such bullshit in my life

Hey man I feel you. I understand your argument 100%. Actually, that's the main reason people believe it, because they don't believe people could be that evil. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, I'm just saying do a little research, look into, see what the facts are and see what the theorists say, compare them. The only way to live in this world nowadays is to be educated, educate yourself on the facts. ANd if you don't, that's fine, I'll still respect you. Sometimes I just want people to look at the big picture, I could go into several huge reasons besides the facts of 9/11 of why they could have done this. ANd to be honest, in regards to your post, I don't even think Bush was involved. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, it just bothers me about what I think happened as it does that you think people like me are crazy.

Edit: !0 Minutes, that's all I ask. If this doesn't make you want to look into at all, then I will shut up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Ok I whatched that video, and Im still not convienced that the goverment had involvement in that
Terrorist tried to blow up the trade center before with a bomb in 1993..so it wouldnt surprise me if they had planted bombs in the building...
Why the hell are you so set on blaming the goverment?

That video is the least convincing thing I've ever seen.
These theories aren't based on videos of people reporting explosions and people spotting suspicious things in the videos. These theories are based on facts that don't have much to do with the actual physical bombings. Don't shoot down something because it sounds too extreme to you. Because there are people who actually take the time to do proper research before they come to conclusions. People like you and Chet think "The U.S. government sponsoring terrorism? Pssshh that would never happen." But you should know that your own logic can be turned against you.

[Emadyville]

No matter what anyone says, I will never believe that america attacked itself...Im sorry but I dont think the world is that evil
dont get me wrong the world is fucked up..
but that is just wrong..
I mean what the fuck do you think happened? Bush called a fuckin secret meeting about plotting to kill ultumitley 2,976 people?
And think about it...america has spent sooooooooooo much fucking money on this war its not even funny...So there for where is the money coming from?
All the conspiricies are retarded..
Ive never heard such bullshit in my life

Hey man I feel you. I understand your argument 100%. Actually, that's the main reason people believe it, because they don't believe people could be that evil. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, I'm just saying do a little research, look into, see what the facts are and see what the theorists say, compare them. The only way to live in this world nowadays is to be educated, educate yourself on the facts. ANd if you don't, that's fine, I'll still respect you. Sometimes I just want people to look at the big picture, I could go into several huge reasons besides the facts of 9/11 of why they could have done this. ANd to be honest, in regards to your post, I don't even think Bush was involved. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, it just bothers me about what I think happened as it does that you think people like me are crazy.

Edit: !0 Minutes, that's all I ask. If this doesn't make you want to look into at all, then I will shut up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Ok I whatched that video, and Im still not convienced that the goverment had involvement in that
Terrorist tried to blow up the trade center before with a bomb in 1993..so it wouldnt surprise me if they had planted bombs in the building...
Why the hell are you so set on blaming the goverment?

I'm not. I stumbled on all this myself a few years ago. The video wasn't meant for you to change your mind. The video was just a spec of the big picture of things about 9/11 that don't make sense. It was meant for you to watch it and maybe say to yourself, maybe that is odd that so many people from that day say there were explosions on so many floors of the building. And for you to say wait a minute, why would there be explosions or bombs in the building, and to questions the source, eye witnesses, reporters, NYPD and NYFD, which you can decide for yourself as being credible or not. But Scientists, Ph. D's, NYPD, NYFD, government officials, and eye witnesses believe that it didn't happen the way they claim. More than 50% of Ny city citizens wanted 9/11 to be reopened and reinvestigated. They spent 3 million (http://interestingtimes.blogspot.com/2003/02/what-would-you-pay-for-911.html) on the 9/11 commission report, you know how much they spent on the Clinton sex scandal, 40 million (http://www.villagevoice.com/1998-09-22/news/clinton-s-sex-scandal/). That seems fare right? Why so little into the investigation. There are so many inconsistancies it's crazy. If you aren't completely sick of me yet I have one video that is long, but I'd say watch a half hour and if you think it's garbage turn it off.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598

It's called Loose Change: Final Cut. And I will add that if you heard of this video or videos by loose change you should know they were never trying to do this, they were researching 9/11 to do a fictional video for school about what if the gov't was involved, then they saw the problems with the report and turned to this movie instead. It is well made and I think the best most accurate account from the facts. Seriously bro, just take some time and watch it. You too Chet, maybe after you do you will realize why I am pushing this as much as I am.

[<Stiiccy>]

No people like me and Chet don't jump to a conclusion that is very shady and can't be proven
When the mother fucker who ordered the attacks(osama) admits the shit why the hell would we have any reason to believe that hes lieing?
why the fuck would a man put a bounty on his head?
I don't understand why you would be that fucked up in the head that you think that America ordered an attack on itself just to war with another country...
Ive done plenty of research, and all I see is a bunch of hippie ass people jumping to bullshit rumors
There is no way you can prove that america attacked itself...
there is however more proof that those arab cocksuckers came over here jacked our shit and killed almost 3,000 of us...
Why place the blame on the goverment...and the motives don't make sence...

either way we never know who truly ordered the attacks...but they are one fucked up peice of shit human being

[<Stiiccy>]

and emady...They closed the Kurt Cobain case on the same day they found him and never re-opened the case...
did the goverment kill him too?



because his shit obiosly wasnt a suicide

[Robbie G]

One of my biggest problems is that the government could have provoked a war without a full out attack on America They could have planted a bomb, or staged an assassination attempt on the president.

Why would they fly planes into not one, but both of the towers, the pentagon and attempt to fly one into the state house.

Just seems like overkill. I know saying that doesn't prove it anyway but I don't get that.

[Emadyville]

No people like me and Chet don't jump to a conclusion that is very shady and can't be proven
When the mother fucker who ordered the attacks(osama) admits the shit why the hell would we have any reason to believe that hes lieing?
why the fuck would a man put a bounty on his head?
I don't understand why you would be that fucked up in the head that you think that America ordered an attack on itself just to war with another country...
Ive done plenty of research, and all I see is a bunch of hippie ass people jumping to bullshit rumors
There is no way you can prove that america attacked itself...
there is however more proof that those arab cocksuckers came over here jacked our shit and killed almost 3,000 of us...
Why place the blame on the goverment...and the motives don't make sence...

either way we never know who truly ordered the attacks...but they are one fucked up peice of shit human being

Well from what you just said I think that you just want it to be that way because you have a hatred for non-American's. Watch the video, Osama denied the attacks btw, he was happy we were attacked, but he never took credit for it. Just watch it, I think you're scared. And did I not say that I have researched it for two years, two years, I didn't just jump to a conclusion. I came to a conclusion after looking at both sides, like Chet posted, I've seen it, read Popular Mechanic article too. And from this I realized that unless you look at both sides you will only believe what you read.

Edit: You want motive, look up The Project For The New American Century. See what their motives are and where they rank in the government.

[Emadyville]

One of my biggest problems is that the government could have provoked a war without a full out attack on America They could have planted a bomb, or staged an assassination attempt on the president.

Why would they fly planes into not one, but both of the towers, the pentagon and attempt to fly one into the state house.

Just seems like overkill. I know saying that doesn't prove it anyway but I don't get that.

The twin towers had asbestos in them, which was not allowed to be used in buildings after the toxic chemical was found to be so unhealthy and deadly in 1971. Both towers were made with asbestos, it would have cost 1 billion per building to rid them of the chemical. That's just one reason, also odd how the owner took out a 7 billion dollar insurance on terrorist attacks not even 2 months before they were. Just another coincidence. I could go on forever, but just watch the video.