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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Oct 1st, '08, 08:51

Ok.it's a pretty list and all.....but Boots Riley would've been on mine for sure.
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby yoshi » Oct 1st, '08, 11:26

Makaveli525 wrote:
yoshi wrote:Talib Kweli being UNDER 50 Cent?!?!?! AZ being higher than Kweli? Papoose? oh god. oh GOD!! he should be in the top 5, no doubts.

also Q-Tip should be way higher.


Yeah, Talib should be higher. That was my bad. But still, AZ > him...

Papoose as top 5? I think not.



i didn't mean Papoose to be in the top 5, i was still on the Talib issue. my bad^^
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby Emadyville » Oct 1st, '08, 19:20

gladimnotsoluble wrote:Tash is correct, death simply makes you more famous. Big even said "you're nobody till somebody kills you".

heck face it, even tupac got so much bigger after his death. big's dope, but i agree that em probably had to go through more. with so little material out from big we can't put him so high.

also, imagine if eminem had died right after TES...think about where they would have put him. just putting that out there


He would of been numero uno probably.
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby Jay-19 » Oct 1st, '08, 23:05

Makaveli525 wrote:1. Big L
2. Nas
3. Rakim
4. 2Pac
5. Biggie
6. Big Daddy Kane
7. Jay-Z
8. Eminem
9. Inspectah Deck
10. Big Pun
11. AZ
12. Method Man
13. Ice Cube
14. Ghostface Killah
15. Raekwon
16. Kool G Rap
17. GZA
18. Proof
19. Illmaculate
20. Redman
21. OneBeLo
22. Guru
23. KRS-One
24. Common
25. Lupe Fiasco
26. LL Cool J
27. Canibus
28. Jadakiss
29. Special Ed
30. Slick Rick
31. Snoop Dogg
32. Fresh Prince
33. The Game
34. Mos Def
35. Xzibit
36. Papoose
37. 50 Cent
38. Chuck D
39. MC Lyte
40. Royce da 5'9"
41. Talib Kweli
42. Ja Rule
43. Fabolous
44. Q-Tip
45. Chamillionaire
46. RZA
47. MC Ren
48. Kanye West
49. Biz Markie
50. King Jafee


OK, for starters, Kanye West should not be on that list in my opinion. He's not a great rapper, he's a great producer, but he should give rap up, because he sucks big time.
Ja Rule shouldn't be on it either, and that's not because I'm an Eminem-fan, but I actually think he is worthless. For crying out loud, it sounds like he has something stuck down his throat. I hate his voice, and his lyrical content is awful.
I think Biz Markie should be higher.
RZA should also be moved up a couple of notches.
Ice Cube should be moved down a little, he only rap about gangsta-shit. The same goes for The Game.
Eminem should at least be in the top 5, if not top 3.
Move up Redman to top 10.

Well, that's about it.

And this is strictly my own opinions.
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby King Jafee » Oct 2nd, '08, 05:55

Tash8 wrote:
Tash8 wrote:make eminem in the top 3 imo
put lupe WAY higher imo, top 15 easy
50 cent get rid of his bitch ass


Eminem in the top 3... again... you'd put Em above Pac, Big, Nas, Jay?


yes, biggie easily he released 2 good album but they were same concepts don't u think we'd have gotten bored by the third album, i believe yes... easily... just cause he died doesn't mean his next album's caliber will be as good as his first 2.

jay, easily he's a good rapper dont get me wrong but i never could connect with jayz, nas maybe, maybe not, i love nas he's easily one of my favs so all depends on my mood, pac yes and no.. i connect with pac in many songs but i connect with eminem in just as many but eminem has way more complex lyrics, but that's debatable...

so there you have it.

homie i sat here and read u whine up and down about why u think eminem is better than biggie and real talk i think the main reason u could never connect with jayz, nas, biggie is bc the things they were rhymin about was like a fantasy world to you

you more than likely do not live in a very big city probably havent seen people get shot got shot at seen dope fiends wanderin around all day police fuckin with u for no reason police fuckin prostitutes beatin old people people sellin all day in houses on blocks seen triple beams loaded to the brim

its not anything wrong with that but the reason biggie had two classic albums is because he captured emotions and topics on those albums that you know nothin about while still gettin deeper into thoughts of what people in those situations are goin through

and if u do live in a big city u must either be on the outskirts in the suburbs not really goin through shit on a daily besides being online not gettin out and gettin pussy or money obviously since ur supreme or whatever the fuck that means

em had two dope albums and they were his 1st ones buddy the rest have been a weird trip into his mind which hasnt been the best he has some singles that have been ill but when u cop it that is about it i dont want to hear someone rhymin as much gay shit as he did on his last album i mean wtf em?

and then u argue about proof gotdamn brother its like jay said do u listen to the music or just skim through it?

proof is fuckin ill he has been on or release like 12 fuckin albums and all of em knock yo!! wtf goon sqwuad is ill i miss the hip hop shop ill his fuckin wordplay is bonkers u moron!! on all his tracks!!! and for those talib kweli fools (PROOF HAS WAAAAAAY MORE ALBUMS THAN TALIB KWELI since albums mean so fuckin much but back to tash) i mean seriously ur just a silly white kid sittin up in his room somewhere u has a fuckin opinion that dont mean jack shit because he dont even bother to listen to the music obviously

and fuck this list for not havin Masta Ace who is the 2nd dopest MC of all time behind L, or Tech N9ne who is super slept on and its not even funny anymore

i bet tash knows who Tech N9ne is u juggalo lovin bastard

its funny how people dont read at all though got selective eyesight like a motherphucka

the first thing i would have said is who the fuck is King Jafee?

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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby King Jafee » Oct 2nd, '08, 06:07

Tash8 wrote:
Makaveli525 wrote:
Tash8 wrote:Biggie released 2 classic albums, eminem released 3. Eminem outsold him, eminem is better in most aspects defined by the word lyrical, eminem has the intangibles that i felt biggie never had, and let's face it, eminem is white, it was a lot easier for biggie to be successful than it was for eminem (something that is overlooked a lot)


Eminem had three classics? Okay... would you mind naming them?

Eminem outsold him... so sales has anything to do with skill? Is that what you're saying?

Eminem is white... so white america embraced him... and he gained popularity because the majority of hip hop consumers are white as well.


yes i can name them, slim shady lp, marshall mathers lp, the eminem show ( dont care if you dont think so, cause imo biggie has 0 classics, i'm talking about what eminem fans perceive as classics and what biggie fans perceive as classics.)

sales believe it or not have a lot to do with skill, depending on who your audience is, soulja boy isn't skilled you think? you think it's easy as fuck to create a catchy song and put it on youtube by yourself and promote yourself thru youtube to get signed? he skills might not mean much but they are skills...

again with the comment white america embraced him, we forget the fact that before he got popular NO ONE embraced him, but hey now that he's popular because of him being white let's forget that he struggled 20 times as much because he was white.

and this retardedness tops ur madness off

eminem got no love when he tried to start cuz that is what happens in the hood to anybody u simp they get tested white boys get tested a lil more especially if they are tryin to rock the mic yo i mean skills pay the bills and he had them so he didnt struggle extra hard thats just how it is buddy ur a fuckin idiot though im glad u believe every movie u see lmao maybe poppadoc came at him or something right lmao made his young life tough

u gotta bust a move show and prove to quote some old Big Daddy Kane u know nothin about

but like Big Mak said which obviously ur small little mind cant grasp is that WHITE AMERICA BUYS SHIT THEY BUY THE MOST HIPHOP/RAP and just like u are gobblin down ems cock so hungrily so did the rest of America

he was packaged as one of yall bc he is Moms is mean to him and does drugs, trailer park livin black people are mean to him the works you know i bet u can relate in some part to that even if u livin nice i bet ur moms is poppin pills homie dont front
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby Tash8 » Oct 2nd, '08, 06:33

King Jafee wrote:just like u are gobblin down ems cock so hungrily


was going to reply till I read that, and figured out your just the typical idiot on this site, when someone defends eminem, it means we're licking his balls or we're sucking his cock...

only thing i can tell you is grow up, but then i also read this

he was packaged as one of yall


who's one of yall? white people?

and figured you won't ever grow up.

---------- and just for reference I never said I couldn't connect with Nas, actually if your little ignorant head didn't notice, I said Nas is one my favorite rappers of all time, easily top 3.
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby yoshi » Oct 2nd, '08, 10:22

and for those talib kweli fools (PROOF HAS WAAAAAAY MORE ALBUMS THAN TALIB KWELI since albums mean so fuckin much but back to tash) i mean seriously ur just a silly white kid sittin up in his room somewhere u has a fuckin opinion that dont mean jack shit because he dont even bother to listen to the music obviously


i don't care if he's got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more albums than Kweli - it doesn't mean shit. i mean seriously ur just a silly white/black/yellow [i don't care, you could be pink in green dots] kid sittin up in his room in front of the pc and jacking off to a stupid post u just made.
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby King Jafee » Oct 2nd, '08, 18:35

yoshi wrote:
and for those talib kweli fools (PROOF HAS WAAAAAAY MORE ALBUMS THAN TALIB KWELI since albums mean so fuckin much but back to tash) i mean seriously ur just a silly white kid sittin up in his room somewhere u has a fuckin opinion that dont mean jack shit because he dont even bother to listen to the music obviously


i don't care if he's got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more albums than Kweli - it doesn't mean shit. i mean seriously ur just a silly white/black/yellow [i don't care, you could be pink in green dots] kid sittin up in his room in front of the pc and jacking off to a stupid post u just made.


i am sorry that in poland they dont have sarcasm so I can forgive you not sensing it in my extended waaaay. and i am sorry to be rude to a female i hope honestly ur grown so that my words get through to you bc i know if ur a teenager ur just gonna argue and whine over nothin and for the record i am pink in green dots but i wasnt jackin off to my post last night i was jackin off to Pinky gettin her round juicy tapped and boy did that shit wiggle...

tash thinks that more em albums means better than biggie so if that logic is correct than Proof is doper than Talib.

Oh wait not just that but bc he is. Not just bc of his extensive catalogue. His lyrical complexity. His history with the music. His everything.

this should be my few days online so i will argue with the uneducated and non music lovin public
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby yoshi » Oct 2nd, '08, 18:41

King Jafee wrote:i am sorry that in poland they dont have sarcasm so I can forgive you not sensing it in my extended waaaay. and i am sorry to be rude to a female i hope honestly ur grown so that my words get through to you bc i know if ur a teenager ur just gonna argue and whine over nothin and for the record i am pink in green dots but i wasnt jackin off to my post last night i was jackin off to Pinky gettin her round juicy tapped and boy did that shit *****...



you weren't rude^^ but i forgive you anyway lol :p
well my point was that it doesn't mean if someone's got more albums :-k



pink & green don't match :'(
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby King Jafee » Oct 2nd, '08, 18:53

Tash8 wrote:
King Jafee wrote:just like u are gobblin down ems cock so hungrily


was going to reply till I read that, and figured out your just the typical idiot on this site, when someone defends eminem, it means we're licking his balls or we're sucking his cock...

only thing i can tell you is grow up, but then i also read this

he was packaged as one of yall


who's one of yall? white people?

and figured you won't ever grow up.

---------- and just for reference I never said I couldn't connect with Nas, actually if your little ignorant head didn't notice, I said Nas is one my favorite rappers of all time, easily top 3.


yea buddy it is called cock gobblin when u even deny what em himself says you moron!!!

em says biggie is better than him u say no way man!!

shit em said masta ace is better than him too and redman too but i bet u still say no way man!!!

i didnt say one of yall to be mean homie i was just keepin it real!! lol ur white!!

why i can tell that ur white by just how u write i thinks shows a lot for me!! i should be a detective!! lmao

its just the way business works junior they market things to certain demographics and eminem was marketed to mainstream America as a product of mainstream America. He was goin through it with his woman makin crazy songs about killin her for no reason other than shock value bc it sells

i mean u probably dont even know the history behind em startin his slim shady persona which was the main reason why he stood out and people loved him?

he got down with the outsidaz on some collabo ish and young zee and pacewon got him rhymin crazy and on some other persona shit

but that is somethin a lil too over ur head lil man

but this pretty much sums up why em sold as much as he did

[Eminem] (Bank teller)
(Hi) How you doin'?
(How can I help you?)
Yeah, I need to make a withdrawal
(Okay)
Put the fuckin' money in the bag bitch
And I won't kill you
(Oh my God, don't kill me)
I'm not gonna kill you bitch
Quit lookin' around
(Don't kill me, I've got 2 kids at home, don't kill me)
I told you I'm not gonna fuckin' kill you
Hurry the fuck up!
*gun shot*
THANK YOU!

he was crazy and then got grown made some cool tracks some strange tracks gained more fame and King Mathers or whatever the fuck it is called now is probably gonna be aight at best em sucks on the boards for real im not hatin just statin facts
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Re: Top 50 Discussion

Postby King Jafee » Oct 2nd, '08, 19:07

yoshi wrote:
King Jafee wrote:i am sorry that in poland they dont have sarcasm so I can forgive you not sensing it in my extended waaaay. and i am sorry to be rude to a female i hope honestly ur grown so that my words get through to you bc i know if ur a teenager ur just gonna argue and whine over nothin and for the record i am pink in green dots but i wasnt jackin off to my post last night i was jackin off to Pinky gettin her round juicy tapped and boy did that shit *****...



you weren't rude^^ but i forgive you anyway lol :p
well my point was that it doesn't mean if someone's got more albums :-k



pink & green don't match :'(


ok then i will be sexy (insert colors)ethnic in your mind and you will stay sexy pale skinned foreigner in my mind lol fair enough i say

or i can be fat white old man who loves Coca Cola and chocolate

whatever u want i am it

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