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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby James R. » Dec 30th, '08, 21:06

Lol thanks
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby Solace » Dec 30th, '08, 22:02

Soulja Boy is so dumb :laughing:

Nas should ether him :shifty:
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby <Stiiccy> » Dec 31st, '08, 00:14

wow, just wow...someone needs to rape this kid with a shaq's penis
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 01:02

Yeah I can see how Nas may have made it a little more difficult to sell these days if you're really new. But in all honesty, with as much music piracy that goes on, who was really expecting to sell? And it doesn't help that people like Jay-Z and TI and Luda, who are considered hip-hop heavy weights, are dropping albums every year to make sure people know who is in control. But it's been this way for way longer than the Hip-Hop is Dead album came out. I mean who has come out and sold that wasn't from ATL that didn't already have a following? The West hasn't done shit since god only knows with the exception of Game. NYC has been in so much internal competition that it doesn't even matter what the fuck they do anymore because the second anyone starts making any money or any strides you get entire groups of people like The Diplomats and G-Unit and Terror Squad (or what's left of them) coming out and dissing them because they're intimidated. And even worse is the other almost breakthrough artists who get so caught up in "beef" that they can't further their careers.

Then you look at the south, where all the success has been for the past 5 years with new coming cash horders like Jeezy, Rick Ross, T-Pain, Plies, and dudes with longevity out the ass like TI and Luda and Three 6 Mafia. They keep themselves united and THE SECOND one guy gets hot he's ALL OVER the place. He's not only making other people hot but he's keeping himself relevant. The year Mike Jones was hot he was on EVERYONE'S songs because that's how they do it down there. No one in the south has an issue selling once T-Pain gets on a track because he's popular right now and they don't mind sharing the funds unlike the North. They don't mind going on tours together and bringing along a new artist to get them some exposure or gettin on a street remix to get them some myspace views and the attention of some labels. Even though I HATE the guy, DJ Khaled has taken full advantage of this shit. He's making glorified mix CDs go gold and Platinum cuz he puts Akon and/or T-Pain on the hook, lets Luda, Rick Ross, Jeezy, TI, and Lil Wayne do some verse and blows up some young guys like Ace Hood who fucking SUCK but benefite from exposure.

So in reality beefing is what Killed hip-hop. Jealousy and envy and testosterone killed hip-hop. Losing the sense of bringing each other up and "gettin mine" killed it all. It wasn't Soulja Boy and it SURE AS HELL wasn't Nas. You don't have rap crews that have 7-10 popular members anymore because the second you get to that point someone starts cryin. In Dipset is was everyone at the same time. In G-unit it was 50, then Game, then 50 again, then Buck and they've all gone to hell. But shit ass artists like Playaz Circle sell a million ringtones and go really high gold or platinum because they dished out half a mil and got Wayne on the hook.

Believe me; if NYC could be more like the south in the aspect of working together album sales would pick up. I don't wanna buy 10 albums to hear 10 songs I like. No one does. You get a TI CD and you're gettin songs from him, Luda, BOB, his mom, Justin Timberlake, Usher, John Legend, me, McMaybe, your brother. Everyone. And you get a variety of tracks. Shit you can vibe to, feel hood to, and dance to. Soulja Boy needs to shut the fuck up. Nas needs to keep doing what he's doing. And hip-hop as a whole needs to just accept that there will be different types of hip-hop like there's always been. Dance music, hood music, lyrical shit, and so on.

And I know you don't like Soulja Boy, so we're all good. And yeah this post is long as shit. Got beef? ;)
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby James R. » Dec 31st, '08, 02:15

It's all a cycle though. I mean look at the west. All the beefin and shit they did between the elites over there. And who's left? Snoop, Nate Dogg on a couple hooks, and Dre with a possibly nonexistent album. But who's coming out that's new? Past Game, no one.

Look at NYC. Sure Nas and Jay squashed it, but then the whole thing with G-Unit happens, Dipset breaks up more or less. What young, talented artists are coming out of the North East? None of them. Joe Buddens looked promising but every time he made a move he got checked by someone who didn't like him. Beef is old and it's the NY thing to beef your way to the top cuz it worked for 50 when he ended Ja's career, but now it's old.

When the West and North East were at the top of their game there was unity. That's the key. Unity sells. And while I agree it does get to be a little much sometimes when a rapper has 80 other people on the CD, I prefer that than Game who cries about what happened on half his CD and then disses the people involved on the other half. It's just old.

And I think it was a shit move by Nas. I think Nas realizes that his relevance as an artist is fading to a new generation and he's seeing that the reason Jay has always been better than him was because Jig knew how to adjust to the times and he's finally seeing that he doesn't, so he's trying to get the shock value. Lame as hell. I love Nas, but it's hurting to see him handle his career the way he is.
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby Hadez » Dec 31st, '08, 19:36

it's hard to take him serious when he's got a yellow mac.
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby Jay-19 » Jan 2nd, '09, 00:31

TruEmFan wrote:Not to defend Soulja Boy... But I think he sort of had a point. :unsure:

I mean, regardless of what Nas meant to do with Hip Hop is Dead and what it actually meant to him, just the bold statement of claiming "Hip-Hop is dead" got people believing it. Or arguing about it that it's not. But it seems like ever since Nas did that, the general public thinks Hip-Hop is dead. SB had a point when he said Nas messed up a lot of people's money because of that because rap albums don't sell anymore. Very few do, but in general, the average music listener is not going to go to the store and buy a Hip-Hop album because it's been so-called "dead." I can see the parallel he made with Lil Wayne's Best Rapper Alive thing. He proclaimed it, and now people really think he is. Or it's just the opposite, people are so against Lil Wayne being the best rapper alive that they constantly trash him and bitch about how horrible he is.

I'm not saying Nas single-handedly killed Hip-Hop ( :laughing: ), but he wasn't helping it either when he claimed Hip-Hop is dead. I know he said he meant that Hip-Hop was just turning too commercial and all that, but with a title like that, he's obviously talking about commercial Hip-Hop because we all know there are still plenty of underground MCs that haven't bought into the trends and all that shit.


Please don't hate me. I still don't like Soulja Boy. :(


Damn, are you a psychic or something?! :confusion:
That was exactly what I was thinking! :o

I don't like either Nas or Soulja Boy.
Don't hate me for not liking Nas.
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby benrumbles » Jan 2nd, '09, 13:15

lol soulja boy smill little dude, didn't Ice-T already put the dude in his place...Soulja might get his career ruined over this if Nas releases a diss track.
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Re: Soulja Boy disses Nas

Postby benrumbles » Jan 2nd, '09, 13:19

KillahGoat wrote:
TruEmFan wrote:Not to defend Soulja Boy... But I think he sort of had a point. :unsure:

I mean, regardless of what Nas meant to do with Hip Hop is Dead and what it actually meant to him, just the bold statement of claiming "Hip-Hop is dead" got people believing it. Or arguing about it that it's not. But it seems like ever since Nas did that, the general public thinks Hip-Hop is dead. SB had a point when he said Nas messed up a lot of people's money because of that because rap albums don't sell anymore. Very few do, but in general, the average music listener is not going to go to the store and buy a Hip-Hop album because it's been so-called "dead." I can see the parallel he made with Lil Wayne's Best Rapper Alive thing. He proclaimed it, and now people really think he is. Or it's just the opposite, people are so against Lil Wayne being the best rapper alive that they constantly trash him and bitch about how horrible he is.

I'm not saying Nas single-handedly killed Hip-Hop ( :laughing: ), but he wasn't helping it either when he claimed Hip-Hop is dead. I know he said he meant that Hip-Hop was just turning too commercial and all that, but with a title like that, he's obviously talking about commercial Hip-Hop because we all know there are still plenty of underground MCs that haven't bought into the trends and all that shit.


Please don't hate me. I still don't like Soulja Boy. :(


Damn, are you a psychic or something?! :confusion:
That was exactly what I was thinking! :o

I don't like either Nas or Soulja Boy.
Don't hate me for not liking Nas.


Damn some dudes speak real shit on here very nice post then response peoples I agree with all that but I would love to see Nas burn Soulja's sorry ass...I think that would make me very happy :D
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