The TRshady Forum became read-only in December 2014. The 10 year history will live on, in this archive.
Continue the discussion with the new home for the Eminem and Hip Hop discussion: HipHopShelter.com.

Is it fair & correct to call...

All questions and discussions on Eminem to be found here.

Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Wreck » Jan 30th, '09, 03:33

Em's "Encore" album, a bad or not a good album? I always hear people talking about hoping Em's work is better then Encore, to set the bar higher on a musical level and to go back to his MMLP, TES days, or even back to his first couple of years with Dre. Anyways, The Eminem Show is my favorite, followed by MMLP & SSLP, but I think It's UNFAIR to assess Encore as a bad album. I agree with everybody that says it's a disappointment of an album & not as good at all as the other 3, especially the previous 2, but overall for rap and music wise and compared to other albums by other artists, it's a nice masterpiece and Em put it together well. I think Em was lazy on the album. Instead of making the whole album great and a classic, he fell into the pits of doing "Ass Like That," "Big Weenie" & "Just Lose It and etc." type tracks. Before, he would only have one pop rap single or catchy single on his previous albums, to get people to buy his albums, promote them & to lure more fans in, with The Real Slim Shady, Without Me & My Name Is. So I can understand why Just Lose It was made, but the other dismal tracks on the album are no excuse. Anyways, my point is, it's a good album not great, or not as good as his other 3 up to it, but if compared to any other album (rap albums of the year, or even pop & rock albums), is a good LP. I know it was a disappointment, but if you just blank out the rest and look at tracks like "Like Toy Soldiers, "Mosh", "Yellow Brick Road" & even "Mockingbird", the lyrics & real tracks are their. Even the 3 bonus tracks are all excellent and should of been replaced to being on the actual album, with the tracks nobody really likes. I still love the album and listen to it. I know this is long, but what does everybody else think?
My Beats Page- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wreckles ... 08?fref=ts
Image
My Debut Album- Life or Death- Coming Soon
User avatar
Wreck
Role Model
Role Model
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Sep 5th, '08, 23:19
Location: South Jersey
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby M-Pyre » Jan 30th, '09, 04:08

argumentation
the greatest is hated
User avatar
M-Pyre
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 1299
Joined: Nov 5th, '07, 01:47
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Wreck » Jan 30th, '09, 04:17

M-Pyre wrote:argumentation


What?

sorry, this isn't one of those questions where only one word answers are required.
My Beats Page- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wreckles ... 08?fref=ts
Image
My Debut Album- Life or Death- Coming Soon
User avatar
Wreck
Role Model
Role Model
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Sep 5th, '08, 23:19
Location: South Jersey
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Jan 30th, '09, 07:47

ShadyBaby8 wrote: what does everybody else think?


heres what i think

how many times can we say ..

1)this is amazing compared to anything else thats out today
2)if the 3 bonus track replaced the 3 horrible track then the album would be great We all know this by now

we all know and disussed many times before this that it is by far not em's best work and it was a disappointment considering his previous 3 albums were just classics
I never grew up I was born
Grown And Grew DOWN
User avatar
SayGoodbyeHollywood
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 534
Joined: Jan 26th, '08, 22:13
Location: Ny
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby noel » Jan 30th, '09, 08:58

SayGoodbyeHollywood wrote:
ShadyBaby8 wrote: what does everybody else think?


heres what i think

how many times can we say ..

1)this is amazing compared to anything else thats out today
2)if the 3 bonus track replaced the 3 horrible track then the album would be great We all know this by now

we all know and disussed many times before this that it is by far not em's best work and it was a disappointment considering his previous 3 albums were just classics

:smoking: :smoking: :smoking:

If in doubt, just go to all the previous threads and read up...
User avatar
noel
Trailer Trash
Trailer Trash
 
Posts: 318
Joined: Nov 28th, '07, 23:04
Location: NSW- Australia
Gender: Female

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Evil-Genius » Jan 30th, '09, 11:46

Well for me Encore was a " good " album not GREAT as you mentioned ,
But If Encore`s track list was like this I`d put it aside with MMLP and TES

1. Curtains Up
2. We As Americans
3. Never Enough
4. Yellow Brick Road
5. Like Toy Soldiers
6. Mosh
7. Puke
8. Ricky Ticky Toc
9. Paul (Skit)
10. Rain Man
11. Love You More
12. Em Calls Paul (Skit)
13. Just Lose It
14. Ass Like That
15. Spend Some Time
16. Mockingbird
17. Crazy In Love
18. One Shot 2 Shot
19. Final Thought
20. Encore (Curtains)

:flower:
Image
I swear HOPSIN is better than most rappers out there.
This guy is truly SICK , He is the Black Eminem.
User avatar
Evil-Genius
Renegade
Renegade
 
Posts: 2347
Joined: Jan 13th, '09, 22:37
Location: K u w a i T
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Sofi » Jan 30th, '09, 12:58

i think Encore was good of course not as good as the past 3 albums.. there some good songs.. yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mosh, mockingbird... just lose it, crazy in love are not bar either...
"A plaque of platinum status is whack if I'm not the baddest." -Eminem
:guitar:
User avatar
Sofi
Renegade
Renegade
 
Posts: 2258
Joined: Oct 27th, '08, 18:38
Gender: Female

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Sofi » Jan 30th, '09, 13:00

i think Encore was good of course not as good as the past 3 albums.. there some good songs.. yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mosh, mockingbird... just lose it, crazy in love are not bad either...
"A plaque of platinum status is whack if I'm not the baddest." -Eminem
:guitar:
User avatar
Sofi
Renegade
Renegade
 
Posts: 2258
Joined: Oct 27th, '08, 18:38
Gender: Female

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Sofi » Jan 30th, '09, 13:00

i think Encore was good of course not as good as the past 3 albums.. there some good songs.. yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mosh, mockingbird... just lose it, crazy in love are not bad either...
"A plaque of platinum status is whack if I'm not the baddest." -Eminem
:guitar:
User avatar
Sofi
Renegade
Renegade
 
Posts: 2258
Joined: Oct 27th, '08, 18:38
Gender: Female

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby blitches » Jan 30th, '09, 15:27

Encore if it didnt have major leaks

1.curtains up (intro)
2.evil deeds
3.never enough
4.yellow brick road
5.like toy soldiers
6.mosh
7.we as americans
8.bully
9.paul (skit)
10.rainman
11.monkey see monkey do
12.em calls paul (skit)
13.just lose it
14.can-i-bitch
15.spend some time
16.mockingbird
17.love you more
18.ricky ticky tock
19.final thought (skit)
20.encore
:worship:
blitches
Trailer Trash
Trailer Trash
 
Posts: 490
Joined: Jan 4th, '08, 00:39

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby bom-bom » Jan 30th, '09, 16:16

SayGoodbyeHollywood wrote:
ShadyBaby8 wrote: what does everybody else think?


heres what i think

how many times can we say ..

1)this is amazing compared to anything else thats out today
2)if the 3 bonus track replaced the 3 horrible track then the album would be great We all know this by now

we all know and disussed many times before this that it is by far not em's best work and it was a disappointment considering his previous 3 albums were just classics
User avatar
bom-bom
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 1107
Joined: Jan 10th, '09, 17:09
Location: Spain
Gender: Female

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 30th, '09, 16:31

1.curtains up (intro)
2.evil deeds
3.never enough
4.yellow brick road
5.like toy soldiers
6.mosh
7.we as americans
8.bully
9.paul (skit)
10.crazy in love
11.monkey see monkey do
12.em calls paul (skit)
13.ass like that
14.one shot 2 shot
15.spend some time
16.mockingbird
17.love you more
18.ricky ticky tock
19.final thought (skit)
20.encore


i left out just lose it but this was for a classic album, not pop charts and sales
oh yeah... and thanks for nothing too
User avatar
Ka0t1c
Role Model
Role Model
 
Posts: 3919
Joined: Nov 16th, '05, 08:28
Location: Hell, Room #5150
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby AJS2050 » Jan 30th, '09, 16:32

in general it wasnt em's fault, because the songs leaked early he was in a rush to sort it. and i agree if the tracklist was different with the leaked songs on, it would be on par with his other classic LP's.
User avatar
AJS2050
Band Leader
Band Leader
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: Apr 10th, '07, 01:30
Location: Sherwood Forest, Nottinghamshire, UK
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby AJS2050 » Jan 30th, '09, 16:34

im really hopping Relapse dont leak so em can finalise the project with the correct tracks.
User avatar
AJS2050
Band Leader
Band Leader
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: Apr 10th, '07, 01:30
Location: Sherwood Forest, Nottinghamshire, UK
Gender: Male

Re: Is it fair & correct to call...

Postby Kez » Jan 30th, '09, 16:34

He was his own undoing, basically.

How was he meant to live up to MMLP and TES? I mean, c'mon
User avatar
Kez
Pill Popper
Pill Popper
 
Posts: 8713
Joined: Jun 1st, '06, 20:04
Location: Japan
Gender: Male

Next

Return to Eminem



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot]