Gay Marriage

[Slim Zaddy]

first off slim zaddy, i'm not gay. not at all actually. but nice try.

second off, fuck your opinion.

i hold zero respect for a hateful opinion. your opinion wishes death upon others for their lifestyles. you sir, are worthless to society.

it's 2009, get with the time.

EDIT-thank you sarah for pointing out that YES IT HAS BEEN PROVEN that people are BORN gay. as i said, most of you peoples arguments are baseless and downright false. do some research children.

2nd EDIT-sticcy, it is a completely natural occurrence for animals to be homosexual. do some reading and you'll find that all species of animal contain homosexuality.

and again, no i'm not gay, but i'm a HEAVY supporter of equal rights for all.

i'm gonna respond nicely , i dont care if YOU like my opinion or not , at the end it's my opinion , and who the fuck told you that i hate gays , don't assume things from your mind okay man , i'm just discussing the gay marriage thing and state my opinion on it , how many times i gotta tell you to understand!!!!!!!... damn

So you say you dont hate homosexuals but they should die because they are homosexual.
i don't hate them yes ,and when i mean they should die , i didn't mean it literally , it's an irony man , and i mean by that is i just dont know how they are living in this way , you cuz i'm a normal guy i can't imagine myself fucking with anther guy ,, to my mind it seems not right,

Like most people here, it doesn't effect me. They are indeed people too and they deserve to have equal rights.




And it has been scienticifically proven that homosexualality is something you're born with. People who suddenly "turn gay" have just hit the point where they've fully realized it. They may have had clues towards it here and there, which they deny in their own mind. And sometimes it can take a lot for someone to come out about who they really are, for lots of reasons. A simple example would be things like being insulted about it, and not being accepted.

yeah this is correct

You're contradicting yourself, before you said that people turn gay because of their surroundings. As you said, your son wont be gay because he'll have a manly father. How the hell would having a manly father mean he or she won't be born as a homosexual?

Get your opinions straight man

byeah i did said that , they are influencing by the surrounding , but i didn't say and again i didn't say that they don't born as a homosexual ., i know what i said solace so i'm not contradicting myself , so , they just get this mixing feeling you know , even if they are born as a homosexual if their parents guide them to what wrong and what's right they will be straight ,,Human behavior is determined by both nature and nurture. Without genes, you can't act in the environment at all. But without the environment your genes have nothing on which to act.. so they both depend on each other, so it's not only at born , the enviroment the child living with has an influence too .. and here is a source that Certify what i have said , http://www.narth.com/docs/hom101.html

common man , it's early to talk about our kids , don't it , but if he turns to be a gay i will murder him .. i''m a criminal , but i respect your opinion anyway , hope your son be a gay and your doughtier be a lesbian , i want to see how you will adapt with it

Allow me to debunk everything you have stated in this arguement. You say homosexuality is not of human nature, so let us define what human nature is. Human nature in essance is the time line of humanity as a whole, sexuality, gender or any Man Made stigma or classifacation does not define what human nature is. You say man on man is disgusting, yet if I asked you before this arguement even was thought of that if you thought lesbian pornography was acceptable you would say yes. That my friend is a double standard, and that does not solifidy your character in anyway.

Marriage is marriage. Marriage is the unification of humans together. Notice I said HUMANS, no where did the laws of man say that marriage was only for the straight community. Historically homosexuality was accepted in many different races and places such as the Japanese, Romans, and the Greeks. If they were able to openly accept it as what it is, why can't you. You are blessed with the knowledge of having knowledge, now if you do not want to use that knowledge to your advantage, it is your problem, but do not bring your ignorance to the spotlight by expressing such close minded and illogical statements.

i dont know why you still dont get it guys , let me just clear myself out , to all of the gays around the world listen to me , i dont hate ya okay i dont hate ya , and i did'nt said that , about murdering thing i did say what i meant by it before , actually there many gays in the country where i live , and they're not affecting me at all ,they are just living their own life, but dont come and tell me that it's normal,, no it's not ,cuz Their relationship is not normal because man and woman were put on this earth with complementary sex organs meant to procreate the species. so marriage is not a marriage .and i did'nt say that it's not accepted , it's accepted in a certain countries , but i did'nt mention anything about that, why mentioning it so .. it's not important if it's accepted or not , cuz i'm just discussing if it's normal for ya or not ,,




if you're not convinced if what i have said ,, then go here ,,
read then come back to me
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fixe.htm
http://home.messiah.edu/~chase/h/articles/regenera/1.htm
http://www.arationaladvocate.com/homosexuality.htm

You just been served

if you're talking about me ,, no i didn't

solace, thank you, that was going to be my exact reply.

he says he wants to murder all homosexuals.

that my friend is called hate.

join the klan you fucking homophobe, grow up. you're probably a 12 year old who listened to the MMLP too many times, started throwing the word fag around and thought it was cool to be as 'manly' as possible by hating gay people. you're going to make a wonderful addition to society

yeah and i wish to have the honor if you would be the first one friend , first go and learn how to debate with others politely then let your stinky ass to be into a discussion .. fucking dump i'm 20 , even you can't see my age lol ,, yeah i'm going to make a wonderful addition to the society i'm an telecommunication engineering , comparing to a trash man ,, yeah it's make difference i guess. dont you think that hater , listen i'm done with you , you're even stupid enough to understand , take my advice go to 5th grade kids , let them teach you how to talk ,, cuz actually i could see that you lack this one

[DelinQuent]

i refuse to debate politely with an EXTREMELY ignorant and hateful opinion.

if you wanted to debate politely you wouldnt have started gay bashing like you did.

it's clear that you went for telecommunications since you can't type for shit.

for example

"dont you think that hater , listen i'm done with you , you're even stupid enough to understand"

umm, what?

[Slim Zaddy]

i refuse to debate politely with an EXTREMELY ignorant and hateful opinion.

if you wanted to debate politely you wouldnt have started gay bashing like you did.

it's clear that you went for telecommunications since you can't type for shit.

for example

"dont you think that hater , listen i'm done with you , you're even stupid enough to understand"

umm, what?

why would you care how i start it ,, okay why only you ,, other members responds to me politely , so i did back ,, if you don't like what i said or if you're against my opinion , then respond back but in a good way , without mentioning fag , or hater, fuck , these words , let's us have a good controversy , i don't like beefing with people . that's not my type , hope you get me ,,

[Solace]

byeah i did said that , they are influencing by the surrounding , but i didn't say and again i didn't say that they don't born as a homosexual ., i know what i said solace so i'm not contradicting myself , so , they just get this mixing feeling you know , even if they are born as a homosexual if their parents guide them to what wrong and what's right they will be straight ,,Human behavior is determined by both nature and nurture. Without genes, you can't act in the environment at all. But without the environment your genes have nothing on which to act.. so they both depend on each other, so it's not only at born , the enviroment the child living with has an influence too .. and here is a source that Certify what i have said , http://www.narth.com/docs/hom101.html

Exactly, you say that they are influenced by surrounding. Yes i know you didnt actually say they werent born as homosexual, but their surroundings have nothing to do with it. If they were born homosexual and their parents "guided" them to being straight, it just wont work. z_em i doubt you can turn homosexual if your parents told you, so i doubt that a homosexual person who is attracted to their own gender can somehow change their mind to become straight and still think its right to themselves.

i dont know why you still dont get it guys , let me just clear myself out , to all of the gays around the world listen to me , i dont hate ya okay i dont hate ya , and i did'nt said that , about murdering thing i did say what i meant by it before , actually there many gays in the country where i live , and they're not affecting me at all ,they are just living their own life, but dont come and tell me that it's normal,, no it's not ,cuz Their relationship is not normal because man and woman were put on this earth with complementary sex organs meant to procreate the species. so marriage is not a marriage .and i did'nt say that it's not accepted , it's accepted in a certain countries , but i did'nt mention anything about that, why mentioning it so .. it's not important if it's accepted or not , cuz i'm just discussing if it's normal for ya or not ,,

You totally switched the subject when you explained the "hate" thing. You said they should be murdered, now that is a plain sign of hate. You say you dont hate them then you say "about murdering thing i did say what i meant by it before" meaning you did feel they should die meaning you do hate them. Their relationship isnt normal, i can understand what you mean by that but i dont see anyone bagging on people who have anal or oral sex. You really think "god" or whatever you believe in put the ass and mouth on the body to have sex with? No. So why should people be allowed to do that? I dont see people going against women fingering, you think that fingers were put on the body to allow women to masterbate? No, the penis was supposed to go in there, not a finger. But people dont bag on that immorality. "Its not important if its accepted or not". What do you think this entire discussion is about, the acceptation of gay marriage. So yes accepting homosexuality is important here.[/quote]

i don't hate them yes ,and when i mean they should die , i didn't mean it literally , it's an irony man , and i mean by that is i just dont know how they are living in this way , you cuz i'm a normal guy i can't imagine myself fucking with anther guy ,, to my mind it seems not right,

I dont see how the fuck killing another person because of their lifestyle is "ironic".

[Slim Zaddy]

Exactly, you say that they are influenced by surrounding. Yes i know you didnt actually say they werent born as homosexual, but their surroundings have nothing to do with it. If they were born homosexual and their parents "guided" them to being straight, it just wont work. z_em i doubt you can turn homosexual if your parents told you, so i doubt that a homosexual person who is attracted to their own gender can somehow change their mind to become straight and still think its right to themselves.

man both surrounding and born have effects on the child , I'm not saying this from my mind , i have given you a source that certify what i said ,so scientist and doctors are saying that , for me if i have a boy has feelings toward the same gender i will start guiding him, explaining to him , telling him what is right from wrong , then it's up to him , but yes they can be altered , but you have to know how...

You totally switched the subject when you explained the "hate" thing. You said they should be murdered, now that is a plain sign of hate. You say you dont hate them then you say "about murdering thing i did say what i meant by it before" meaning you did feel they should die meaning you do hate them. Their relationship isnt normal, i can understand what you mean by that but i dont see anyone bagging on people who have anal or oral sex. You really think "god" or whatever you believe in put the ass and mouth on the body to have sex with? No. So why should people be allowed to do that? I dont see people going against women fingering, you think that fingers were put on the body to allow women to masterbate? No, the penis was supposed to go in there, not a finger. But people dont bag on that immorality. "Its not important if its accepted or not". What do you think this entire discussion is about, the acceptation of gay marriage. So yes accepting homosexuality is important here.

hahaha i liked these lines , but you have some points, but i don't think that fingering is related to uncommon things or abnormal staff , women can masturbate as you does, it's common and it's known and it's normal and it's from women nature , you said that it's important if you accepted or not , i say no i don't accept it at all , and i'm stick to my decision , but that's does'nt mean that i feel hate toward them or something , let them live and do whatever they want to do , as long as my friends, my relatives and in the future my family are not gay's ,,

I dont see how the fuck killing another person because of their lifestyle is "ironic".

well to the way i said it , it may say to you guys that it's real what i feel , but when i said it.. deep inside me it's an ironic , so i didn't mean murdering by real killing , it just an sad expression , so it's not literally , i said enough about what i meant by killing ,, but still to me homosexual it's abnormal and i don't accepted , but i don't mind them living in their own lifestyle ,

[Slimm]

Mcanon pretty much said it all for me. I always laugh at people saying theyre not racist and then turn out to be complete gay bashers. I'ts 2009 now, although race and being gay is completely different, it wont be long until we all realize that we were ignorant to once discriminate gay people like some did black people.

Slim zaddy, you sound like a insecure homosexual in the closet trying to prove that he's a 'real' man, and have you ever heard of Punctuation?

[Slim Zaddy]

Mcanon pretty much said it all for me. I always laugh at people saying theyre not racist and then turn out to be complete gay bashers. I'ts 2009 now, although race and being gay is completely different, it wont be long until we all realize that we were ignorant to once discriminate gay people like some did black people.

Slim zaddy, you sound like a insecure homosexual in the closet trying to prove that he's a 'real' man, and have you ever heard of Punctuation?

hahaha , nah don't worry I'm secured

[<Stiiccy>]

Mcanon pretty much said it all for me. I always laugh at people saying theyre not racist and then turn out to be complete gay bashers. I'ts 2009 now, although race and being gay is completely different, it wont be long until we all realize that we were ignorant to once discriminate gay people like some did black people.

Slim zaddy, you sound like a insecure homosexual in the closet trying to prove that he's a 'real' man, and have you ever heard of Punctuation?

gay bashing is a hobbie of mine

[Slimm]

Mcanon pretty much said it all for me. I always laugh at people saying theyre not racist and then turn out to be complete gay bashers. I'ts 2009 now, although race and being gay is completely different, it wont be long until we all realize that we were ignorant to once discriminate gay people like some did black people.

Slim zaddy, you sound like a insecure homosexual in the closet trying to prove that he's a 'real' man, and have you ever heard of Punctuation?

gay bashing is a hobbie of mine

proves my point

[beeUbeeZ]

bah...gay love is the same crap with some bread on it...so yeah, i think it should be allowd for them to marry.

[<Stiiccy>]

bah...gay love is the same crap with some bread on it...so yeah, i think it should be allowd for them to marry.

da fuck?...I think there is a difference...

[beeUbeeZ]

of course...that's why the "crap with some bread" comment.

[Brandon S]

Really who gives a fuck about what other ppl do in their personal life. I dont agree w/ that lifestyle, but 4real why would any of u giv a shit about what other ppl do in their personal life??? If you don't like it, then don't do it and leave everyone alone fuckkk. sry if i offend anyone but i think its fuckin stupid that anyone would oppose gay marriage

Its the same exact thing as when blacks were discriminated against, so i don't get why so many black ppl are hatin on gays. No offense to any black people but thats fucking stupid

[<Stiiccy>]

Really who gives a fuck about what other ppl do in their personal life. I dont agree w/ that lifestyle, but 4real why would any of u giv a shit about what other ppl do in their personal life??? If you don't like it, then don't do it and leave everyone alone fuckkk. sry if i offend anyone but i think its fuckin stupid that anyone would oppose gay marriage

Its the same exact thing as when blacks were discriminated against, so i don't get why so many black ppl are hatin on gays. No offense to any black people but thats fucking stupid

I don't know about that...Black people were sperated from whites...gays are being forced on all of us..and there begging for attention...Gay people can't marry because most people think homosexuality is un-natural and therefore shouldn't be allowed...it really doesn't matter...but I'm really tired of all this gay shit being forced on everone like were supposed to show sympathy towards them...fuck that...

[Slim Zaddy]

Really who gives a fuck about what other ppl do in their personal life. I dont agree w/ that lifestyle, but 4real why would any of u giv a shit about what other ppl do in their personal life??? If you don't like it, then don't do it and leave everyone alone fuckkk. sry if i offend anyone but i think its fuckin stupid that anyone would oppose gay marriage

Its the same exact thing as when blacks were discriminated against, so i don't get why so many black ppl are hatin on gays. No offense to any black people but thats fucking stupid

I don't know about that...Black people were sperated from whites...gays are being forced on all of us..and there begging for attention...Gay people can't marry because most people think homosexuality is un-natural and therefore shouldn't be allowed...it really doesn't matter...but I'm really tired of all this gay shit being forced on everone like were supposed to show sympathy towards them...fuck that...

I'M WITH STIiccy ,, word man ,, ,,