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Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby gladimnotsoluble » Apr 21st, '09, 03:44

He literally bowed?
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Pistolpoppin » Apr 21st, '09, 04:01

Hadn't heard, but from what you say, I don't see why he would do such a thing?

Bush wouldn't have done that lol....and i hate bush
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby imarun10 » Apr 21st, '09, 04:07

His bow was meant to be respectful, and it should only be taken in that context. The Middle Eastern world is in chaos so why shouldn't he try to show some respect so that they could work on restoring order.

Only thick headed, ignorant people refuse to work with the enemy. If you don't work with each other, your problems are never going to be solved. I completely agree with Obama's move.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 21st, '09, 04:29

it's never too late to try to patch things up :y:
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Unlimited » Apr 21st, '09, 04:35

Sometimes ppl can be so ignorant, Saudi Arabia has nothign against the world nor muslims. Its the extremists that are causing destruction. And Fox News is Racist, they hate Obama guts. All Obama is tryign to do is make peace again, which wil never happen but dotn knock the man attempt. Bush aint do shit !!
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Apr 21st, '09, 08:49

Fox News was shocked....Oh my Gaaaaaaaaad!!! Look dude, the "muslim" leaders prostrate before the White House five times a day because USA is their God and for the US Leaders money is their God and the Shah of Saudi Arabia's ass is full of dough...so ofcourse Obama would bow before him. As for "Bush wouldn't have done it"..........In the eight years that Bush was president he didn't miss a single chance to criticize Castro or Chavez, China or N.Korea but never once did he criticize the Saudi Arabian System of Government..........................because...as I said, the King is full of dough...........and never once did he even say that General Parvez Musharraf was a Dick-Taker (dictator)............because Musharraf gave him some of the best blowjobs he had ever had..........And nothing's changed............and nothing will ever change.............................fucking imperialists.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby BlaqReaper » Apr 21st, '09, 09:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yb2AwQJG8

Making a big thing out of nothing in my opinion...which is just what Fox News loves to do anyways. I can understand what you're saying McMaybe, but showing respect (even for an enemy) shouldn't be frowned upon. Plus what Bush did seemed worse, and it wasn't a big issue back then, but Obama's gesture suddenly seems to be a huge issue. Also, it just simply doesn't look as bad as I thought, it's not like Obama got on his knees and was groveling :P.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Robbie G » Apr 21st, '09, 12:57

I love how the Whitehouse tried to get out of it by saying he was shaking hands with a midget at the same time... :-k

He shouldn't be bowing to any other foreign leader, dictator or not. The Saudi King is not HIS king nor his superior. But like Blaq said Bush did the same thing so I guess they're all just ass kissing for oil.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby °[~CHR!$~]° » Apr 21st, '09, 15:15

lol@americans always complaining about their presidents....1st bush now obama...whatever they do..there's somthin to complain smh...
but i agree with imarun guy....and everyone else who went for that whole respect thing... :y:
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby mcZu » Apr 21st, '09, 18:53

°[~CHR!$~]° wrote:lol@americans always complaining about their presidents....1st bush now obama...whatever they do..there's somthin to complain smh...
but i agree with imarun guy....and everyone else who went for that whole respect thing... :y:


Imarun is actually a girl; that said, Obama should not have bowed down to the Saudi king (I personally hate that dude, but w.e). I know usually when you visit a foreign country you adopt to their 'greeting-tradition' and shit, but shaking hands would have been enough in this matter. Showing respect would have been enough by shaking hands; otherwise, when Obama bowed down the Saudi king should have bowed aswell, that would be mutual respect. If Obama would have insulted the Saudi king in Saudie Arabia, the Saudi king wouldn't even shake Obama's hands if he had visited America. Even if we are talking about oil and shit, Obama shouldn't have done that. By doing that he gives the impression of being weak and to soft, even if he ment that out of respect.

His fucking advisors should give him some better advise, 'cause they clearly missed the point here.

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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 21st, '09, 23:08

McMaybe wrote:Oh my god... Some of you are morons. Nobody said ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALLLLLLLLL about not patching things up or not having respect for the Muslims you dumb fucking kids. It's not something you do. A president should NOT bow down to a person that has RECENTLY spoken on his hatred for America. He insulted Bush on America territory, and supports the anti-American cause.

I don't give a left nut what you 4th graders have to say about politics. I made it clear that this is NOT anti-Muslim, so do me a favor, if you have nothing relevant, and not choke full of "ignorant American" comments, leave now. I'm getting sick of you fucking idiots, Jesus Christ. I didn't expect this many stupid comments. Out of curiosity? Would that Anti-American piece of shit of a dictator, that his country claims to love while he runs them into poverty, would he bow before the US president? Where is HIS respect? Fuck you biased morons.

And for the record, I'm not American.


wow, just wow lmfao

perhaps to show the rest of the world that even if we have had our differences in the past, we can try to work things out now.

if you haven't noticed most of the middle east hates us. so instead of puffing out chests out like fucking gorillas convinced that we rule the world, he chose to be a little more humble with a bow.

of course it could all go down hill and make us look like pussies, but whatever, it's worth trying to be diplomatic than running around like teenagers looking for a fight trying to prove who is the bigger man.


EDIT- And for the record, if you're a citizen of this country, you ARE an American.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 21st, '09, 23:23

Obama is arguably the most powerful man in the world. That being said there is NO reason for him to bow to ANYONE. Especially someone who, like McMaybe has stated CORRECTLY many times already, has insulted America as a country, and been outspoken about his support of any and all anti-American causes.

Would you bow to someone who said they supported the attempted murder of your family? Even if you were patching things up? I severely doubt it.

I am in no way saying that it's a bad thing for Obama to want to make peace with the Saudis. I have nothing against Muslims or anything like that, but Obama demands more respect than anyone leading what may be the most powerful country in the world. They could have shaken hands. They could have hugged for all I care. But bowing is how people show that they're weak. It's how someone says "You're better than me, so I'll offer you my vulnerable body."

So the thought, motive, and intentions were okay, but the action was not, in my opinion, acceptable.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby imarun10 » Apr 22nd, '09, 01:05

James R. wrote:But bowing is how people show that they're weak. It's how someone says "You're better than me, so I'll offer you my vulnerable body."


I completely disagree with you. I think a bow is a sign of respect just like shaking hands. The two actions mean that same thing. There's no reason for this to even be news. I don't care about the greeting, so I don't see why other people do. The actual meeting is much more important than the way they greeted one another.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby imarun10 » Apr 22nd, '09, 01:18

Ha! Thanks?
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby BlaqReaper » Apr 22nd, '09, 02:01

imarun10 wrote:
James R. wrote:But bowing is how people show that they're weak. It's how someone says "You're better than me, so I'll offer you my vulnerable body."


I completely disagree with you. I think a bow is a sign of respect just like shaking hands. The two actions mean that same thing. There's no reason for this to even be news. I don't care about the greeting, so I don't see why other people do. The actual meeting is much more important than the way they greeted one another.

Curiously, how do Arabs interpret bows? I know in Japan it's a sign of respect and a greeting, but in the U.S. it's interpreted as sign of submission. If it's a greeting over there, then it shouldn't be seen as anything else but a greeting :P like shaking hands.
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