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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 31st, '09, 07:12

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llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.

lol what a homo...i bet you be suckin some cock right now...
i bet you take it in the ass dont you? faggot...fuckin butt pirate lol...

kill yourself homie...we dont accept faggots

Sorry, but must you be so fucking ignorant? I bet you get sooo many girls with that attitude. And no, you can't just magically switch back. It is not controllable, I know. I relate to llviaquez. I went through a time where I wished I were straight because things would be so much easier, I wouldn't have to worry about coming out to my conservative father who has said once that he wished my gay brother were straight. It truly makes me sick how people still behave this way. As someone else said, it's 2009, get with the times. Don't go around calling gay people faggots and all that. That's completely out of line. Homosexuality IS genetic/hereditary, and though some people who have been sexually abused as children have become homosexual, it's really not how you were brought up. Being a "manly" father does not play any part in the orientation of your child. Hell, my other brother's best friend is gay and I wouldn't have guessed in a million years, since he's a sports fanatic and goes to bars to drink and stuff. You don't usually see many gay guys interested in that, since the media and everything portrays them as being only flamboyant. Same with lesbians, being portrayed as butch.

to be honest i really dont care if it can be controlled or not...but if some faggot hits on me i guarentee it'll be there last day alive.....
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby lady speedstik » May 31st, '09, 08:26

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llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.

lol what a homo...i bet you be suckin some cock right now...
i bet you take it in the ass dont you? faggot...fuckin butt pirate lol...

kill yourself homie...we dont accept faggots

Sorry, but must you be so fucking ignorant? I bet you get sooo many girls with that attitude. And no, you can't just magically switch back. It is not controllable, I know. I relate to llviaquez. I went through a time where I wished I were straight because things would be so much easier, I wouldn't have to worry about coming out to my conservative father who has said once that he wished my gay brother were straight. It truly makes me sick how people still behave this way. As someone else said, it's 2009, get with the times. Don't go around calling gay people faggots and all that. That's completely out of line. Homosexuality IS genetic/hereditary, and though some people who have been sexually abused as children have become homosexual, it's really not how you were brought up. Being a "manly" father does not play any part in the orientation of your child. Hell, my other brother's best friend is gay and I wouldn't have guessed in a million years, since he's a sports fanatic and goes to bars to drink and stuff. You don't usually see many gay guys interested in that, since the media and everything portrays them as being only flamboyant. Same with lesbians, being portrayed as butch.

lol I'd love to actually see you hurt a guy if they hit on you. I doubt that would happen, aaand I doubt that would be a problem for you. :coffee:
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Slim Zaddy » May 31st, '09, 08:56

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Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:





Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:


well yeah everything can be under controlled , it's a desire , but it depend manly on the person , so even if he was a gay and he feels that's what he's feeling is abnormal or something , and want to be something else like straight , then he can ,, only if he want to ,, if he has the desire to alter and if he sees that gay things is not for him , so step by step automatically he will begin to convince himself that he want to be straight , till emotionally from inside ,he will start to feel being attracted to the opposite sex .. so it's kind of desire and insisting[/quote]
And how do you know its just so easy to magically switch what your attracted to? How would you know any of this, considering you aren't a homosexual? :unsure:[/quote]

i dont know how actually solace , but everything can be altered by desire ,, the will to do something ,, but it's just depend on that particular person ,,
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Solace » May 31st, '09, 16:17

Shady Babie wrote:If you truly are gay I doubt you can just switch back... :unsure:

Exactly. Simple as that. No, everything cant be altered by desire. Lets see if you can magically make yourself attracted to males, slim zaddy? You'd find it disgusting, but to a homosexual they'd find it the same amount as hard to become attractive to opposite sex genders. You are basing your points on mere guessing.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby MC Anonymous » May 31st, '09, 16:24

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Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:





Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:


well yeah everything can be under controlled , it's a desire , but it depend manly on the person , so even if he was a gay and he feels that's what he's feeling is abnormal or something , and want to be something else like straight , then he can ,, only if he want to ,, if he has the desire to alter and if he sees that gay things is not for him , so step by step automatically he will begin to convince himself that he want to be straight , till emotionally from inside ,he will start to feel being attracted to the opposite sex .. so it's kind of desire and insisting

And how do you know its just so easy to magically switch what your attracted to? How would you know any of this, considering you aren't a homosexual? :unsure:[/quote]

i dont know how actually solace , but everything can be altered by desire ,, the will to do something ,, but it's just depend on that particular person ,,
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So if I desired for my skin to turn white and I made myself believe my skin was white... it will become white? Or if I desired my body to not have illness, and made myself believe I didn't have illness, then I'm not ill? It is just merely masking what is actually happening by mind manipulation. Nothing more nothing less. Your points are like The NY Jets, Non existent.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Solace » May 31st, '09, 16:40

I'd like to see the response to that.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 31st, '09, 21:23

lol I'd love to actually see you hurt a guy if they hit on you. I doubt that would happen, aaand I doubt that would be a problem for you.

well considering you know soooo much about me...and you know sooo much about homosexuals...I'll just take your word for it...I was OBVIOUSLY joking when I was talking so ignorotly to that queer...But then again since you know me sooooo fucking well!!!...

I'm gonna end this homo talk now..

I believe that some guys like dick...Theres nothing we can do about it...If they like dick then let em like dick...It really doesn't make any difference to me...Fags don't really bother me at all...
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby MC Anonymous » May 31st, '09, 22:07

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So if I desired for my skin to turn white and I made myself believe my skin was white... it will become white? Or if I desired my body to not have illness, and made myself believe I didn't have illness, then I'm not ill? It is just merely masking what is actually happening by mind manipulation.


I'm not disagreeing but I just want to bring something up. The points like someone desiring that they weren't ill, or that their skin was white..those are all physical attributes that cannot be changed (surgery?). Homosexually isn't a physical problem, I consider more of a psychological issue (or if I really wanted to sound like an ass, a mental illness). People can certainly 'act' white but they can't change their physical appearance. What I am saying is that I think using those scenarios as examples are rather irrelevant.

People turn gay, why can't it be reversed?

I agree to a certain extent. Homosexuality can be looked at as a broad spectrum of problems and not one thing is as accurate as the other. Nobody knows why but people have a idea. The point I was making was those ideas I presented explain my stance on it. It wasn't supposed to be taken in a literal sense, but as a metaphorical sense. If I desired that I wanted to love a turtle(emotional/psychological example) Would I love this turtle? Now at first glance you would say yes, but because of unrequited love it's not really love, but lust. You can change the way your mind perceives things as, but that does not substitute what reality is. You will never change anything by desire alone. That is what I mean.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 31st, '09, 22:21

Menzo wrote:Oh, good we have that cleared up then :y: :happy:

I really don't have a problem with gays, or gay marriage; people just look at it the wrong way.

Your right...cuzz theres so many different ways to look at a man fuckin another man in the ass right? lmfao
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Solace » May 31st, '09, 23:28

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Menzo wrote:Oh, good we have that cleared up then :y: :happy:

I really don't have a problem with gays, or gay marriage; people just look at it the wrong way.

Your right...cuzz theres so many different ways to look at a man fuckin another man in the ass right? lmfao

Yeah there is. You missing out on the handjobs and the blowjobs man. Feltching too. Not like all they do is anal :flower:
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby lady speedstik » Jun 1st, '09, 04:38

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lol I'd love to actually see you hurt a guy if they hit on you. I doubt that would happen, aaand I doubt that would be a problem for you.

well considering you know soooo much about me...and you know sooo much about homosexuals...I'll just take your word for it...I was OBVIOUSLY joking when I was talking so ignorotly to that queer...But then again since you know me sooooo fucking well!!!...

I'm gonna end this homo talk now..

I believe that some guys like dick...Theres nothing we can do about it...If they like dick then let em like dick...It really doesn't make any difference to me...Fags don't really bother me at all...

Yeah, kinda hard to detect joking online, unless you actually say "just kidding" afterward. :-s

And I do know a lot about homosexuals/homosexuality. :)


Menzo wrote:Not sexually you sick fucks! lol :P

I mean, who are we to say that people who have different sexual preferences are not allowed to love? It's human nature, we are social animals-we need love. I try to turn the other cheek and accept a person for who they are. Gay or not, who gives a fuck; they're human. Unless you wake up at 4am and you see a gay shoving his penis up your asshole and telling you that, it's ok, then why should it bother you?

I bet there are more gays out there then we think, sad how people can't come out and say it.

I'm glad you said that, because it's extremely true. See, we need more people like this. How would straight people who are against it feel if a bunch of others said that being straight is wrong and they should be gay... the straights would say it's not wrong and you can't just turn gay. Just like you can't turn straight if you're gay, and just like how it's not wrong.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jun 1st, '09, 04:42

lady speedstik wrote:
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lol I'd love to actually see you hurt a guy if they hit on you. I doubt that would happen, aaand I doubt that would be a problem for you.

well considering you know soooo much about me...and you know sooo much about homosexuals...I'll just take your word for it...I was OBVIOUSLY joking when I was talking so ignorotly to that queer...But then again since you know me sooooo fucking well!!!...

I'm gonna end this homo talk now..

I believe that some guys like dick...Theres nothing we can do about it...If they like dick then let em like dick...It really doesn't make any difference to me...Fags don't really bother me at all...

Yeah, kinda hard to detect joking online, unless you actually say "just kidding" afterward. :-s

And I do know a lot about homosexuals/homosexuality. :)

Well alrighty then..Im more of a straight and narrow kind of guy...but hey if thats your preference..
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby AnalKiddo » Jun 1st, '09, 06:46

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve..
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But your either getting lazy or you don't believe in you no more
Seems like your own opinions, not one you can form
Cant make a decision you keep questioning yourself
Second guessing and its almost like your begging for my help

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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Slim Zaddy » Jun 1st, '09, 11:19

MC Anonymous wrote:
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Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:





And how do you know its just so easy to magically switch what your attracted to? How would you know any of this, considering you aren't a homosexual? :unsure:


i dont know how actually solace , but everything can be altered by desire ,, the will to do something ,, but it's just depend on that particular person ,,


So if I desired for my skin to turn white and I made myself believe my skin was white... it will become white? Or if I desired my body to not have illness, and made myself believe I didn't have illness, then I'm not ill? It is just merely masking what is actually happening by mind manipulation. Nothing more nothing less. Your points are like The NY Jets, Non existent.[/quote]


what the hell is this :confusion: , man are you serious ,, how the fuck skin colour have something to do with desire ,, man ,, grow up ,,


Solace wrote:
Shady Babie wrote:If you truly are gay I doubt you can just switch back... :unsure:

Exactly. Simple as that. No, everything cant be altered by desire. Lets see if you can magically make yourself attracted to males, slim zaddy? You'd find it disgusting, but to a homosexual they'd find it the same amount as hard to become attractive to opposite sex genders. You are basing your points on mere guessing.


well i have a friends , here ,, who fuck both ,, girls and boys . . they love girls ,, and in the same time they are attracted to boys ,, so it's a desire ,, and it' depend on that particular person ,, as i said there are some people out there who can be attracted by both ,, but somehow , the people that i'm talking about they are attracted by chicks more ,, but still they fuck boys .. so that's proves my point ,,.and that's what i meant before ,
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby SajN » Jun 2nd, '09, 10:41

^^Look, they CAN change them to be straight, but that's like forcing themselves to do it.
It's like forcing myself to listen to Lil Wayne till I like him. It's just not real. It feels weird.



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