2 Wrongs Don't Make a Right

[shuxams]

and I honestly think that is what happened here. He made a wrong turn on Encore and another wrong turn on Relapse.

Encore was a "continuation of TES" and can keep up at times but definitely reached new lows and this is the album where he started using that accent/voice. He also started making "club songs" around this time. The only problem is, people don't wanna hear fart noises and all that while clubbing.

Although Relapse is a slight upgrade from Encore, when you compare it to SSLP, MMLP, and TES, it is just not up to par imo. There are really no stand out tracks for me. I can get into De Ja Vu, and I gave songs like Hello a few spins but there just isnt that ummph to it.

Songs like Rock Bottom and Sing For the MOment were songs I could really relate to and literally made me throw on a rap record and just sit and vibe. Both as a fan and a lyricist, I gotta say that he can do things with words that NO ONE on this earth can do. Sadly, I think he has lost a step.

I feel like Eminem will never be able to make another record in the same vein as his work from 1998-2003. Unfortunately, I think he is past his prime and is merely a shell of the emcee he once was. He's still my favorite rapper and I will never stop checking for Em but i don't think I will put anymore of his albums on repeat for like a year straight like I have with his previous releases.

Such a damn shame.

[theJFKshow]

I agree, I hate how everyone here is creaming their pants over Relapse when absolutely none of the songs compare to anything on TES or MMLP.

[Kez]

I agree, I hate how everyone here is creaming their pants over Relapse when absolutely none of the songs compare to anything on TES or MMLP.

That's some pretty stupid logic since you agree, therefore agreeing with his point that he will probably never surpass what he did in 1999-2003.

Course he won't. He's past that.

Relapse is by no means better than any of his first 3 albums.

But it could have been a hell of a lot worse.

[Jens14]

Well yeah, I agree he won't be able to surpass his first 3 studio albums, but that doesn't mean Relapse isn't a good album because it is. It's just that the bar of the first 3 albums is VERY high.

[dark456]

i have a feeling relapse 2 is going to suprise people . but ill keep my mouth shut for now

[Cyndi]

I'm so sick and tired of being admired
That I wish that I would just die or get fired
And drop from my label and stop with the fables
I'm not gonna be able to top what my name is
And pigeon holdin' to some poppy sensations
They cop me rotation at Rock 'N' Roll stations....

Please stop comparin it to the last albums people. Just accept that it's different.

[brutus09shady]

But it could have been a hell of a lot worse

[Cyndi]

I completely disagree.

Eminem has evolved immensely in his lyricism. He gets better every time.

Not with Encore obviously but there were moments on Encore that were new peaks.

Just because you say Relapse isn't as good doesn't make it fact. So if you don't believe it is, think that, but stop making retarded threads about it. I don't go around making threads telling everyone why Relapse is as good.

Just because he's not making depressive songs which you can relate to when you're fucked up or bored doesn't mean he's not as good.

His flow(s) have taken new shape.

Stuff like "Stay Wide Awake" is unbelievable and far beyond anything he could of achieved probably even in his peak.

He's more literal now but his wordplay and focus is just incredible. Endlessly flawless flows and delivery.

Relapse is on a par with TES for me.

Thank u. I'm tired of seeing people moanin & complain' when his lyrical game is up. He's back & doin' things be happy. That's all you guys wanted right? If u don't like the album great. U don't like it. But please stop makin the same thread. How can u not like it tho? What is wrong other tha nthe occassional accents or what have u? He's shady!! He's killing people & taking numbers to kill more people LOL And for some to say Beautiful isn't good... What?!! It's something alot of people can relate to. The personal shit some want to hear without it being over the top. Alot of people bitched & moaned about him talking about his life too much too. Well this album is not doin that. He's reinvented himself & trying something new.

[Cyndi]

And for some to say Beautiful isn't good... What?!!

I actually can't stand that song much...but love the album

Enjoy the honesty. Can't beat it over ur head & say like it. LOL I dislike some songs too but(for others) to say the album is over the top bad---come on.

[James R.]

The funny thing is that if he was still making SSLPs and MMLPs and TESs then people would still be bitching about it.

[RealSickLindley]

The funny thing is that if he was still making SSLPs and MMLPs and TESs then people would still be bitching about it.

I don't know what people expect.

Some go "he should do the type of music and use the same voice as he used to".

If i ask you to make some music, then ask you again 10 years later, and changed to much as a person and with your lifestyle, are you honestly going to want to just recreate it?


I've said from day one, i would've loved another ES/MMLP, because that's our safe zones. But i will always appreciate Em coming with something different, because it keeps us interested and it gives more variety in style. As well as showing that he has enough confidence in his creativity.

[slimsoxshady]

i'm gonna be a hater and say Eminem sucks

[Arabian Shady]

The funny thing is that if he was still making SSLPs and MMLPs and TESs then people would still be bitching about it.

i agree man, ppl were bitchin abt how TES wasnt as good as MMLP when TES came out, makes no diff to me, i think his new album is pretty damn dope in its own right, only problem with it is that the lyricaal content makes it especially difficult to sing the damn songs! i mean most of the songs are about killin and shit, and some of them are fukin personal to sing along,lol

[shuxams]

I never said relapse was bad. I said he lost a step.

[DrRapid]

I never expected Relapse to be any better than than his first 3 albums. Cause I thought about it that way I was surprised that Relapse was actually good. The only thing I wanted really for it not to be as bad as Encore which is not even that bad at all. I'm happy with it. I love Deja Vu!