Eminem Chemical Warfare

[Solace]

Ah i see. 2DopeBoyz said that Dr Dre said its the full

[Xray]

Dissappointing.

[lady speedstik]

Alc, who also serves as Em’s tour DJ, gave Shady one of his signature, bass heavy, dark, gritty beats for the title track on his album. On the song, which clocks in at a little UNDER two minutes

http://hhboard.ihiphop.com/hip-hop-talk ... tomom.html

Its to fuckin short and it sounds like it just cuts off,it def should be longer.

Yeah, I heard it on HotNewHipHop.com and it cut off at the end, thus leading me to believe it wasn't the full version.

[Xray]

Ah i see. 2DopeBoyz said that Dr Dre said its the full

Owned.

[slimsoxshady]

there's another verse...probably not, but it just sounds like there should be doesn't it?

[lady speedstik]

^I'm sure there is... even though 2DopeBoyz claims Dre says otherwise...

[Throwback24]

If that's the full song meh... thought it'd be better.

[RealSickLindley]

wow no disrespect or anyhting but this post was real stupid

^ this post was "real stupid" as well...

i;d rather type a few mistakes than saying nonsense

What part of my post did you disagree with fuck face?

Bit about Joell, Budden or Lupe?

Come on, out with it

[Ichiurto]

Sorry for abandoning you guys. The server shutdown on me (As usual) then my computer hit a roadblock.

I will prove with facts (Bars/Punchlines/Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Content) that Joe Budden/Lupe Fiasco/Joell Ortiz all shit on Eminem currently. No contest.

While I am working to get my computer in-shape, I advise you to go through every 2009 Eminem song (You can include 2007+ also, if you like) again (Given that must of you are Stans, it is obvious you have already done so) and pick the most dope craziest wordplay/punchlines/metas/similes Eminem has laid in those years.

I have asked for any good Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Punches on Relapse, but you Stans cannot find anything, so you might want to skip it.

I will give you 48 Hours.

[Tash8]

^ not everyone gives two fucks about similes/metas/and wordplay... just listening to the song and being able to vibe to it is enough.. now i'm on ur side cause joe budden is my fav rapper atm and i love lupe fiasco like i love my mom...

[Ichiurto]

If you can Vibe to a rapper that is making a song about being raped by his stepfather, or, raping women.. You need more help than I can provide.

That said, I agree somewhat with your assessment. That is why I will also use Bars/Content. What is the song about? What does it say? How do they put their words together?

However, every new Eminem song that comes out, I always read these responses:

"Man.. what amazing wordplay/punchlines/metas" So I will destroy the thought that Eminem uses any of those things, let alone uses them effectively.

As I have eloquently pointed out in this topic, Eminem as a rapper does one thing well lyrically: Multisyllabic Rhyming. However, because of this, he uses filler words to make them rhyme, and example is Underground. It is filled with Mutlis, I'm sure you Stans would agree, however, the words mean nothing in terms of the entirety of the song, nor in the bar they are used. He is rhyming, yes, but he is saying nothing. This is when you know a rapper is forcing it.

Rhyming with mutli's is incredibly easy if you can rhyme anything regardless if it makes sense or not.

I will use the first couple of bars from Underground to illustrate my point:

Dre, I'm down here under the ground
dig me up, broken tibias fibias yeah fix me up
60 sluts, all of them dying from Asphyxia
After they sip piss through Christopher Reeves sippy cup
Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads
Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab
Whack job in a bag and a black stalking cap
Jacking off to a hockey mask at a boxing match

That is filled with mutlis, yes? Yet, none of the mutlis have anything to do with the overall content of the song nor the bar they are used in. They are nonsense rhymes written because they.. rhyme. Which is horrible, and something anyone without talent can do.

This is a mere minor taste. My computer just made a weird beep, I have to leave now.

48 Hours.

[RealSickLindley]

Sorry for abandoning you guys. The server shutdown on me (As usual) then my computer hit a roadblock.

I will prove with facts (Bars/Punchlines/Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Content) that Joe Budden/Lupe Fiasco/Joell Ortiz all shit on Eminem currently. No contest.

While I am working to get my computer in-shape, I advise you to go through every 2009 Eminem song (You can include 2007+ also, if you like) again (Given that must of you are Stans, it is obvious you have already done so) and pick the most dope craziest wordplay/punchlines/metas/similes Eminem has laid in those years.

I have asked for any good Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Punches on Relapse, but you Stans cannot find anything, so you might want to skip it.

I will give you 48 Hours.

"Jay and Nas are a given. If I said:

JayZ
Nas

There would be no debate. That's why I gave you those three."


So first there's a debate.. Then they all shit on him..

Right.. Apparantly we have 2 days guys.. Anyone got enough time in their lives spare to go through a whole album worth of material to prove a point against someone on the internet, who you're probably always going to disagree with anyway..

[Tash8]

If you can Vibe to a rapper that is making a song about being raped by his stepfather, or, raping women.. You need more help than I can provide.

That said, I agree somewhat with your assessment. That is why I will also use Bars/Content. What is the song about? What does it say? How do they put their words together?

However, every new Eminem song that comes out, I always read these responses:

"Man.. what amazing wordplay/punchlines/metas" So I will destroy the thought that Eminem uses any of those things, let alone uses them effectively.

As I have eloquently pointed out in this topic, Eminem as a rapper does one thing well lyrically: Multisyllabic Rhyming. However, because of this, he uses filler words to make them rhyme, and example is Underground. It is filled with Mutlis, I'm sure you Stans would agree, however, the words mean nothing in terms of the entirety of the song, nor in the bar they are used. He is rhyming, yes, but he is saying nothing. This is when you know a rapper is forcing it.

Rhyming with mutli's is incredibly easy if you can rhyme anything regardless if it makes sense or not.

I will use the first couple of bars from Underground to illustrate my point:

Dre, I'm down here under the ground
dig me up, broken tibias fibias yeah fix me up
60 sluts, all of them dying from Asphyxia
After they sip piss through Christopher Reeves sippy cup
Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads
Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab
Whack job in a bag and a black stalking cap
Jacking off to a hockey mask at a boxing match

That is filled with mutlis, yes? Yet, none of the mutlis have anything to do with the overall content of the song nor the bar they are used in. They are nonsense rhymes written because they.. rhyme. Which is horrible, and something anyone without talent can do.

This is a mere minor taste. My computer just made a weird beep, I have to leave now.

48 Hours.

I agree with everything you said, and no i can't vibe to insane haha... underground is wack in the sense of lyrical ablitily but it's fucking amazing in every other category..

also.. eminem is not just good at multi syllable rhyming, his best attribute is his imagery, no other rapper can describe a situation or a scene as well as he can..just think of my fault ( it's like a book, i can imagine the characters and everything so perfectly) or another example would be Insane where you can basically imagine what's going on so clearly.. that is what he's best at...

[Evil-Genius]

Sorry for abandoning you guys. The server shutdown on me (As usual) then my computer hit a roadblock.

I will prove with facts (Bars/Punchlines/Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Content) that Joe Budden/Lupe Fiasco/Joell Ortiz all shit on Eminem currently. No contest.

While I am working to get my computer in-shape, I advise you to go through every 2009 Eminem song (You can include 2007+ also, if you like) again (Given that must of you are Stans, it is obvious you have already done so) and pick the most dope craziest wordplay/punchlines/metas/similes Eminem has laid in those years.

I have asked for any good Metas/Similes/Wordplay/Punches on Relapse, but you Stans cannot find anything, so you might want to skip it.

I will give you 48 Hours.

We dont need bring Em`s lyrics to you to prove something that is already proven which is
Eminem SHITS all over joe and lupe , And the fact that he is Light years ahead of them skill wise its unfair to compare such a legend like Slim shady to them .
Go compare them to kanye lol

[Chasingtimeagain]

If you can Vibe to a rapper that is making a song about being raped by his stepfather, or, raping women.. You need more help than I can provide.

That said, I agree somewhat with your assessment. That is why I will also use Bars/Content. What is the song about? What does it say? How do they put their words together?

However, every new Eminem song that comes out, I always read these responses:

"Man.. what amazing wordplay/punchlines/metas" So I will destroy the thought that Eminem uses any of those things, let alone uses them effectively.

As I have eloquently pointed out in this topic, Eminem as a rapper does one thing well lyrically: Multisyllabic Rhyming. However, because of this, he uses filler words to make them rhyme, and example is Underground. It is filled with Mutlis, I'm sure you Stans would agree, however, the words mean nothing in terms of the entirety of the song, nor in the bar they are used. He is rhyming, yes, but he is saying nothing. This is when you know a rapper is forcing it.

Rhyming with mutli's is incredibly easy if you can rhyme anything regardless if it makes sense or not.

I will use the first couple of bars from Underground to illustrate my point:

Dre, I'm down here under the ground
dig me up, broken tibias fibias yeah fix me up
60 sluts, all of them dying from Asphyxia
After they sip piss through Christopher Reeves sippy cup
Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads
Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab
Whack job in a bag and a black stalking cap
Jacking off to a hockey mask at a boxing match

That is filled with mutlis, yes? Yet, none of the mutlis have anything to do with the overall content of the song nor the bar they are used in. They are nonsense rhymes written because they.. rhyme. Which is horrible, and something anyone without talent can do.

This is a mere minor taste. My computer just made a weird beep, I have to leave now.

48 Hours.

I agree with everything you said, and no i can't vibe to insane haha... underground is wack in the sense of lyrical ablitily but it's fucking amazing in every other category..

also.. eminem is not just good at multi syllable rhyming, his best attribute is his imagery, no other rapper can describe a situation or a scene as well as he can..just think of my fault ( it's like a book, i can imagine the characters and everything so perfectly) or another example would be Insane where you can basically imagine what's going on so clearly.. that is what he's best at...

Exactly, you can't compare Em's songs from 1998-2001 (the Slim Shady era kinda) to Relapse. Back then he used multi's to paint a picture and it made sense.

For example, in "Watch Deez", he says something like "an old man who starves his pets/won't leave his house cause he thinks his car's possessed". It's a brilliant rhyme, it paints a picture and he's not just saying nonsense like "Hit a fag with onions, oxy pads..." or whatever the fuck he says *trying* to shock to people in "Underground".

But to the haters, "Chemical Warfare" sounds a lot like his amazing/top of the line Slim Shady rhymes from back in the day - minus the gay accent.