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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby Dmann » Jun 29th, '09, 21:56

All of you saying 2pac sucks or Eminem is above 2pac should be slapped and forced to take a rap class. Eminem wouldn't even accept the award, he knows 2pac is THEE rap symbol. Id be offended as a fan of rap and both of them if Eminem accepted the title. Eminem is no doubt an amazing rapper/ song writer. But he will always be #2 behind Pac. Noone can touch what 2pac did in life or death.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby Blanca~~ » Jun 29th, '09, 22:36

I've got a feeling that Em's gonna win again.
In my mind I'ma fighter, my heart's a lighter
My soul is the fluid, my flow sparks it right up
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby DrRapid » Jun 29th, '09, 22:45

Eminem 75%
Jay-Z 25%

2Pac 63%
Biggie 37%


Those are crappy percentages. Both Jay-Z and Biggie deserved much more.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby AbramIsaac » Jun 29th, '09, 22:49

Tupac is great, but people love him because he has become a symbol for rap music partly due to his death. Pac was a great poet, good actor, and generally a deep type of dude. But the fact is that he was NOT the best rapper. As far as an all-around artist, he was most definitely the best artistic person in Rap. But not the best rapper.

Eminem said it once in an interview way back in the day...I think he said something along the lines of Tupac being his favorite artist, but not necessarily his favorite Emcee.

My .02 it could really go either way. I think Em might get it though.
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Re: the best rapper ever eminem or 2pac

Postby James R. » Jun 29th, '09, 22:57

One Mic wrote:
James R. wrote:This is already posted. And neither is the best rapper ever. But between the two it sure as fuck aint Pac.


So who is then (in your opinion?)

If you're going to say your avatar (Jay-Z at time of posting) then I agree with you :y:

If it's anyone else, I'm going to need some persuading...

First and foremost lets get ONE THING straight. I do NOT hate Pac. Dude was my avi for like 2 yrs lol. I love Pac, but what I don't love is how other, better rappers get overshadowed by his legacy mainly because he died. If Pac were still alive today then he'd most definitely have a great legacy with great albums and great songs...

HOWEVER

I feel as though people like Eminem, Jay-Z, Biggie, Big Pun, Big L (I'm guessing if he had more time to drop more albums), and Nas should ALL come before Pac (except maybe Big L).

So when you ask me who I think the greatest rapper ever is I can't answer that question because I don't know. From what I've heard reasons to think Pun should be GOAT, I've heard songs that make me think Jay, others that make me roll with Em. I just can't definitively decide on ONE to be the best. What I can do however is tell you who isn't. Pac isn't. Snoop isn't. To me, Rakim isn't either.

The thing about Pac is that he got famous because of an image. One he made up mind you.

Jay-Z is my favorite rapper ever trailed closely by Biggie, Nas, and Em. After that it's Pun and Big L. Any one of them deserves that spot more than 2 Pac. Oh and I'm not gonna front on Biggie either, had he not died LAD wouldn't have sold so well, but he was more talented than 2 Pac for the simple fact that a compelling argument can be made that Biggie is the best with about 1/10 the material released as Pac.

I know I didn't really answer your question, but like I said, I really can't cuz I honestly don't know between some of the legendary rappers out there.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby DrRapid » Jun 29th, '09, 23:13

Thing is about Pac, he isn't that good lyrically but the emotion he puts. I feel it! In Me Against The World I'm always like "Damn!", I actually feel the struggle. I don't think there are many other albums which bring that in to me.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby Bernie-Mac » Jun 29th, '09, 23:50

slimthps wrote:Eminem > Tupac


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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby Emadyville » Jun 30th, '09, 00:12

macdaddy019967 wrote:shady gonna win this battle :y:


I voted em :y:
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby SeoNv » Jun 30th, '09, 01:06

WTF? all you are crazy?

Tupac is much better than Eminem,

Eminem the best rapper alive

Tupac the better rapper ever, a leyend


venomous_volatile wrote:Pac is overated.

Voted for the best ever, Em.

:o WTF? :confusion:

I'm a big eminem fan, but I'm realist: Tupac Best Rapper Ever :y:

2pac is another level

2Pacalypse Now
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z
Still I Rise
All eyez on me,
Me against the world,
Makaveli: teory 7 dayz,
Better dayz,
R U Still Down (Remember Me)
Until the end of time...Etc..
:worship:

please don't compare him with

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Marshal Mather lp
eminem show
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby JMG » Jun 30th, '09, 01:31

pac is my 2nd favorite rapper, but skill wise hes not top 5. the finals should be Em Vs Jay.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby James R. » Jun 30th, '09, 03:42

SeoNv wrote:WTF? all you are crazy?

Tupac is much better than Eminem,

Eminem the best rapper alive

Tupac the better rapper ever, a leyend


venomous_volatile wrote:Pac is overated.

Voted for the best ever, Em.

:o WTF? :confusion:

I'm a big eminem fan, but I'm realist: Tupac Best Rapper Ever :y:

2pac is another level

2Pacalypse Now
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z
Still I Rise
All eyez on me,
Me against the world,
Makaveli: teory 7 dayz,
Better dayz,
R U Still Down (Remember Me)
Until the end of time...Etc..
:worship:

please don't compare him with

Slim Shady LP
Marshal Mather lp
eminem show
encore
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First off it's opinion. second of all Ready to Die > all of those albums...
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby SeoNv » Jun 30th, '09, 04:14

James R. wrote:First off it's opinion. second of all Ready to Die > all of those albums...

continues with you fanaticism

I'm a fan of Eminem and Tupac for years, so I can compare, it's the reality Tupac is better than Eminem

all about Ready to Die? you sometime heard tupac?

just: Changes, Ghetto Gospel, Resist The Temptation, Unconditional Love, Starin Through My Rear View, and a long ETC... is better than Eminem

he's speak about things more importants...

i dont wanna fight, this is not my opinion, only Reality...

I Voted Tupac :8)

Eminem mencioned Tupac in him lirycs

Eminem - Patiently Waiting
Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot
Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?
You got the realest and illest killas tied up in a knot
The juggernauts of this rap shit, like it or not

Eminem - Public Enemy #1
The business way to end this I can feel the tremors tremendous
In remembrance of september 11
Flash back to september 7th
When Tupac was murdered in Vegas
He said that he predicted his own death
Let us never forget it or should we ever live to regret it

Eminem - Till I Collapse
Cause I'm at the end of my wits with half this shit that gets in.
I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in.
It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.
But in this industry I'm the cause of a lot of envy.

Eminem - Marshall Mathers
Pissed off, cause Biggie and 'Pac just missed all this
Watchin all these cheap imitations get rich off 'em
and get dollars that shoulda been there's like they switched wallets

Eminem - We´re back
But When They Say One Of The Best, I´m Nowhere Thought Up As That
Not Even The Same Leage As Jay-Z, Nas, Pac, Biggie Or Maybe
The Name Me Somewhere Down At The Bottom, Right After Az
Or Say He Ripped That Biggie Verse, Or That Jay-Z
Yo His Verses Were Crazy, On That Renegade Beat

Eminem - Fubba U Cubba Cubba
Jeffery Dahmer left me with his legacy to carry on
Alot of talk and rumors on us who's the hottest to be honest
Hip-hop ain't been the same since Tupac moved to Cuba on us

Eminem - Welcome To D-Block
Get out come home for a week and get re-knocked
You dont even see cops, hiphop police dont even stop,
On D Block, where everybody wants to be Pac
And you can get popped over the new G Unit reboks

The Game - On Bail
Smokin chronic make me see shit, like 2Pac alive.
Bandana knotted in the front like 2Pac alive.
Walkin out the courthouse spittin on the camera guy.
I bang Thug Life, but this ain't Death Row.
This some gangster shit for my niggaz down on Death Row..

Big L - Size 'Em Up
Peace to Biggie and Pac 'cuz they really were hot
Rap game, heavy hitters, it's a shame they no longer wit' us
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby JMG » Jun 30th, '09, 05:11

SeoNv wrote:
James R. wrote:First off it's opinion. second of all Ready to Die > all of those albums...

continues with you fanaticism

I'm a fan of Eminem and Tupac for years, so I can compare, it's the reality Tupac is better than Eminem

all about Ready to Die? you sometime heard tupac?

just: Changes, Ghetto Gospel, Resist The Temptation, Unconditional Love, Starin Through My Rear View, and a long ETC... is better than Eminem

he's speak about things more importants...

i dont wanna fight, this is not my opinion, only Reality...

I Voted Tupac :8)

Eminem mencioned Tupac in him lirycs

Eminem - Patiently Waiting
Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot
Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?
You got the realest and illest killas tied up in a knot
The juggernauts of this rap shit, like it or not

Eminem - Public Enemy #1
The business way to end this I can feel the tremors tremendous
In remembrance of september 11
Flash back to september 7th
When Tupac was murdered in Vegas
He said that he predicted his own death
Let us never forget it or should we ever live to regret it

Eminem - Till I Collapse
Cause I'm at the end of my wits with half this shit that gets in.
I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in.
It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.
But in this industry I'm the cause of a lot of envy.

Eminem - Marshall Mathers
Pissed off, cause Biggie and 'Pac just missed all this
Watchin all these cheap imitations get rich off 'em
and get dollars that shoulda been there's like they switched wallets

Eminem - We´re back
But When They Say One Of The Best, I´m Nowhere Thought Up As That
Not Even The Same Leage As Jay-Z, Nas, Pac, Biggie Or Maybe
The Name Me Somewhere Down At The Bottom, Right After Az
Or Say He Ripped That Biggie Verse, Or That Jay-Z
Yo His Verses Were Crazy, On That Renegade Beat

Eminem - Fubba U Cubba Cubba
Jeffery Dahmer left me with his legacy to carry on
Alot of talk and rumors on us who's the hottest to be honest
Hip-hop ain't been the same since Tupac moved to Cuba on us

Eminem - Welcome To D-Block
Get out come home for a week and get re-knocked
You dont even see cops, hiphop police dont even stop,
On D Block, where everybody wants to be Pac
And you can get popped over the new G Unit reboks

The Game - On Bail
Smokin chronic make me see shit, like 2Pac alive.
Bandana knotted in the front like 2Pac alive.
Walkin out the courthouse spittin on the camera guy.
I bang Thug Life, but this ain't Death Row.
This some gangster shit for my ***** down on Death Row..

Big L - Size 'Em Up
Peace to Biggie and Pac 'cuz they really were hot
Rap game, heavy hitters, it's a shame they no longer wit' us


um ok ur just proving em had better lyrics then pac, there completly different artist. but skill em is better.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby grabdat » Jun 30th, '09, 05:39

styles are too different to compare but i think slim has it. eminem has everything 2pac had muscially but eminem can be both a punchline rapper and a storyteller all at the same time, 2pac couldn't.
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Re: VIBE-*EM vs PAC* FINALS

Postby AnalKiddo » Jun 30th, '09, 07:22

lyrically em beats pac..
but pac is a legend because of how committed he was, if he were still alive he would be destroying sales..

honestly i think em is the better rapper but pac will always be in my top 3 along with jay
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Cause the shit I hear is crazy
But your either getting lazy or you don't believe in you no more
Seems like your own opinions, not one you can form
Cant make a decision you keep questioning yourself
Second guessing and its almost like your begging for my help

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