Eminem's Attempt To Bring Slim Shady Back Have Failed

[matz]

They want Em to come back like he used to, but then acknowledge the fact that you can't really remake that shit again. I mean... That's not fair, right?


I agree that Slim Shady type songs on Relapse don't sound the same as the ones in the past, but I can't really blame him.

i no what ur saying.....i dont want him 2 remake mmlp type songs but i think he completley failed to keep things relevant on relapse when he had a great opportunity to.......instead, he's jus plain talkin bout killin people and cuttin peoples heads off without any relevance or purpose when he had ammunition to really do some classic songs....

ammo such as the divorce from kim, the fact that he's back, his addiction to drugs, generally how fucked up the world is, the state of hip-hop etc....all this kinda stuff can be used in the slim shady persona perfectly

and he has said in interviews, quote "trying to take it back to the first 2 albums" and im 99% sure relapse 2 is gonna be more of the same, after watchin several interviews bout it

so no i dont want the same thing, i just want eminem to keep the same style and his delivery he had at his peak

relapse seems to be dictated more by the beats than the raps......with sslp and mmlp, the beats are fairly simple but the delivery and lyrics are outta this world........with relapse it seems like eminems more rapping to the beat instead of lettin the lyrics, flow and delivery dictate the song

i still like relapse, and listen to it quite a bit but it obviously hasnt got the same edge as sslp or mmlp which em was clearly goin for.......i fink this is probably down to the fact he is sobre now and has never tried 2 written tracks like this when sobre

[cc20]

I like the new slim shady. It's still fresh and nothing like anyone else is doing.

[Tornado]

i still like relapse, and listen to it quite a bit but it obviously hasnt got the same edge as sslp or mmlp which em was clearly goin for.......i fink this is probably down to the fact he is sobre now and has never tried 2 written tracks like this when sobre

Yeah i agree that Drugs, anger and his fucked up situation inspires you to write better shit than if your life is more stable and no issues are in your life. Like Em said on "These Drugs" "Plus I grab a pencil every time that i light weed/ it's probably cos of the drugs/ shady does what he does/ and is what he is"

[Duffy_hibs]

i agree with this, which is what i've been saying since encore.

it's like slim doesn't have the ability to blend anymore. he used to talk about his views, people, and himself with a sort of hostile sarcasm, but now it just tends to be a pointless craziness. not that i really mind too much, but it can lose it's effect

This post, in my opinion sums up the situation perfectly, I LOVED mmlp and sslp, and I was praying for Relapse to be similar, after all the talk about relpasing to the first 2 albums I think he kinda didn't understand or really didn't realise that we (the fans) are not into this "Rainman" type of thing he's doing, Stay Wide Awake and 3AM COULD have been done in a normal voice, but no

The accent was ok for "Ass Like That" but that is where it should have stopped, My 1st Single, Rainman and Big Weenie almost ruined his rep amungst the fans with the annoying Mexican/Retard accent, thank god Relapse was decent lyrically (barring Ghanja) or the whole thing could have went down just like Encore.

The Eminem show was VERY different from the first 2 albums but very similar in other ways, Encore lost everything that made those albums great, not that Encore was rubbish, not by any means, Yellow Brick Road and Crazy In Love are 2 of my favorites, but the album lacked the proper meaningful attitude he once had, I genuinly believe he tried to bring it back on Relapse, he just can't do it anymore, it all sounds so forced.

[matz]

i no what ur saying.....i dont want him 2 remake mmlp type songs but i think he completley failed to keep things relevant on relapse when he had a great opportunity to.......instead, he's jus plain talkin bout killin people and cuttin peoples heads off without any relevance or purpose when he had ammunition to really do some classic songs....

ammo such as the divorce from kim, the fact that he's back, his addiction to drugs, generally how fucked up the world is, the state of hip-hop etc....all this kinda stuff can be used in the slim shady persona perfectly

I can agree with that. I was sorta disappointed that Em didn't address any of the personal things in his life, but Relapse was obviously a "concept" album and I think it succeeded when viewed upon as that.

so no i dont want the same thing, i just want eminem to keep the same style and his delivery he had at his peak

That's practically the same.

relapse seems to be dictated more by the beats than the raps......with sslp and mmlp, the beats are fairly simple but the delivery and lyrics are outta this world........with relapse it seems like eminems more rapping to the beat instead of lettin the lyrics, flow and delivery dictate the song

Agreed.

However, Em acknowledged this. I mean, the album is full of Dre beats, and he said he wrote to whichever ones just spoke to him, and the content of each song was just what the beat told him to do. So it's not like this happened by accident. I think Em's aware of how his music has changed, and unfortunately, some people just don't prefer it.

ye i see it as a concept album myself.........it works much better this way.....but im not 100% sure it was intended to be a concept album

and about em rappin to the dre beat.....im sure he new it too.....just dont think it works as well

[tigrot]

i agree with this, which is what i've been saying since encore.

it's like slim doesn't have the ability to blend anymore. he used to talk about his views, people, and himself with a sort of hostile sarcasm, but now it just tends to be a pointless craziness. not that i really mind too much, but it can lose it's effect

This post, in my opinion sums up the situation perfectly, I LOVED mmlp and sslp, and I was praying for Relapse to be similar, after all the talk about relpasing to the first 2 albums I think he kinda didn't understand or really didn't realise that we (the fans) are not into this "Rainman" type of thing he's doing, Stay Wide Awake and 3AM COULD have been done in a normal voice, but no

The accent was ok for "Ass Like That" but that is where it should have stopped, My 1st Single, Rainman and Big Weenie almost ruined his rep amungst the fans with the annoying Mexican/Retard accent, thank god Relapse was decent lyrically (barring Ghanja) or the whole thing could have went down just like Encore.

The Eminem show was VERY different from the first 2 albums but very similar in other ways, Encore lost everything that made those albums great, not that Encore was rubbish, not by any means, Yellow Brick Road and Crazy In Love are 2 of my favorites, but the album lacked the proper meaningful attitude he once had, I genuinly believe he tried to bring it back on Relapse, he just can't do it anymore, it all sounds so forced.

I agree with you perfectly.


honestly i had a lot of expectations that relapse was going to be like MMLP since he knows that this album was the best one of his carrier...so i thought that he was coming back with a full blast by making a similiar one

[DrunkenDeath]

.....guys.....


the eminem show and encore came after slim shady LP and marshal mathers LP, and they are nothing like them. why would he suddenly go back to being the way he was a decade ago for no reason?

[matz]

.....guys.....


the eminem show and encore came after slim shady LP and marshal mathers LP, and they are nothing like them. why would he suddenly go back to being the way he was a decade ago for no reason?

because he said thats what he was going to do.....didnt cover it up in anyway....jus came out n said it.....and the title is a tiny clue aswell?

[Evil-Genius]

I want the I dont mean to be mean but thats all i can be its just me Eminem !!!!!!!

[Ice_Scarred]

The difference between slim shady on sslp and mmlp....compared to on relapse is simple right?

On for example, MMLP, slim shady tracks maintain some kind of meaning while still having that slim shady edge.....

for example, kill you -

lines like "they say i cant rap about bein broke no more....they dint say i cnt rap about coke no more" classic slim shady while keeping it relevant or on who knew -

"Oh - you want me to watch my mouth, how?
Take my fuckin eyeballs out, and turn em around?
Look - I'll burn your fuckin house down, circle around
and hit the hydrant, so you can't put your burning furniture out"

classic slim shady while keeping it relevant

so tracks like who knew, criminal, drug ballad, bitch please feel relevant and have purpose but still reveal slim shady's wicked thoughts

then you get to relapse, where he eminem depseratly tries to bring back the slim shady persona on tracks like - stay wide awake, 3am, underground, medicine bal etc etc etc but these tracks seem to lack any kind of meaning or purpose and end up eminem just dronin on about killin people and all these retarded thoughts

dont get me wrong i fuckin love underground for example......but you gotta admit, it doesnt seem to go anywhere or make you think.......about anything in particular

anyone else get this?

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Word homie...I been saying this all along. ALL the TIME! You justs summed it up perfectly. Thats why Relapse was type dissappointing to me. Read my mind....

[Kez]

I agree with you Matz.

I don't even get it; Slim Shady was never a serial killer.

People could argue that he's doing a new character, but he keeps calling himself Shady on the songs so..

[Solace]

Nah in 3AM he's rapping as Rain Man.

[Ice_Scarred]

Nah in 3AM he's rapping as Rain Man.

LMAO! Laffter has ensued.

[JPearson]

to be honest i have no idea what eminem is going for but its eminem, hes gunna do what the fuck he wants aint he... i stil like his music and some of his stuff does lack meaning but that's eminem for ya... i trust him

[Ice_Scarred]

to be honest i have no idea what eminem is going for but its eminem, hes gunna do what the fuck he wants aint he... i stil like his music and some of his stuff does lack meaning but that's eminem for ya... i trust him

But thats not Eminem. Em always had relevance and a general topic in his songs. Relapse Shady gets AX'd by MMLP - SSLP Shady. I enjoyed Relapse for a little bit too, but i'm gonna admit that its not anywhere near his greatest material, imo.