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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby flayke » Aug 22nd, '09, 18:37

Firstly props to da.relapse.lp and others for stating their opinion without insults.
Tbh sometimes it can be embarrassing being an Eminem fan when you look at how one-eyed some of his fans can be :o not naming anyone...

Em and Nas are both great no doubt, both in my top 5. And the thing i like about them is that they respect each other - this has been shown in a few songs where they gave each other props eg. Ether, Till I Collapse. Its a wonder they havent collaborated yet

They both obviously have great lyricism, flow and subject matter (with the obvious exceptions of some songs lol), but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes

Respectfully, my vote goes to Em :y:
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby mcZu » Aug 22nd, '09, 18:39

flayke wrote:but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes


Check out Undying Love, Rewind and Belly Button View (Fetus).
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby flayke » Aug 22nd, '09, 18:50

mcZu wrote:
flayke wrote:but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes


Check out Undying Love, Rewind and Belly Button View (Fetus).


:y: I dont doubt Nas' talent
In fact, i know he only had one rather short verse on this song, but i really like Damian Marley ft. Nas - Road to Zion. Whats your opinion on it?

I love Nas' emotion in that and i hardly ever see/read people talk about it
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby AliJack » Aug 22nd, '09, 18:56

mcZu wrote:Nas > Eminem

It's a fact, if you disagree, stfu...

And Eminem fans are not necessarily hip hop fans. Alot of Em fans are rock fans that started to like rap due to Em. Alot of Eminem fans don't even appreciate hip hop, just Eminem.

And if you say Em is better, then that is your opinion and preference. But the likes of Jay and Nas will always be above Eminem... Eminem would agree himself.

If you think Eminem is the best, okay, you may think that.. but don't say Nas is garbage, if you don't like him just say you don't.

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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby robollama » Aug 22nd, '09, 19:00

mcZu wrote:
flayke wrote:but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes


Check out Undying Love, Rewind and Belly Button View (Fetus).


Those are all fuckin great but Em's got Stan and Kim which I think tell more emotional stories than both of those, with Undying Love being close.
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby wrestler1256 » Aug 22nd, '09, 19:05

ill put in my 2 cents

Overall Eminem over Nas
Illmatic is by far one of the greatest peices of Hip Hop to ever grace the earth
its a classic album with some of the best rhyming schemes, poetry, story telling, and visualization techniques that i have ever heard

Eminem has no classic hip hop album IMO

TES is a classic album, but it doesnt classify to what makes a classic hip hop album. its just kinda in its own territory but its awesome.

SSLP could be if it didnt have songs like my fault and cum on everybody, but what he does on that album in 100% hip hop all the way

MMLP is a tough one. I see why people think its a classic, but its really just not my style. dont get me wrong i love individual songs like the way i am, stan, criminal, etc. but as an album overall it just... i dont even fuckin know i just dont think its a classic. im sorry i cant give a valid point, its all just personal preference i guess
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby heva » Aug 22nd, '09, 19:22

AliJack wrote:
mcZu wrote:Nas > Eminem

It's a fact, if you disagree, stfu...

And Eminem fans are not necessarily hip hop fans. Alot of Em fans are rock fans that started to like rap due to Em. Alot of Eminem fans don't even appreciate hip hop, just Eminem.

And if you say Em is better, then that is your opinion and preference. But the likes of Jay and Nas will always be above Eminem... Eminem would agree himself.

If you think Eminem is the best, okay, you may think that.. but don't say Nas is garbage, if you don't like him just say you don't.

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Ali stfu..mcZu explained his opinion..you said MMLP and TES are clasics only for eminem fans..I ain't sayin Em is better than Nas or that Nas is better than Em, but those two albums are fuckin clasics..and honestly I can't decide who is better..they are both legends
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby mcZu » Aug 22nd, '09, 19:31

flayke wrote:
mcZu wrote:
flayke wrote:but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes


Check out Undying Love, Rewind and Belly Button View (Fetus).


:y: I dont doubt Nas' talent
In fact, i know he only had one rather short verse on this song, but i really like Damian Marley ft. Nas - Road to Zion. Whats your opinion on it?

I love Nas' emotion in that and i hardly ever see/read people talk about it


It's a great song, yeah. The beat, vibe, emotionn and lyrics are superb on that song, indeed.
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby Relapse.LP » Aug 22nd, '09, 19:54

I'm going to address people's comments one by one...

AnalKiddo wrote:woah woah whats this.. MMLP, TES and SSLP AREN'T CLASSICS? Are you guys high.. they are just as great as Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt were and thats not just to Em fans but to Hip Hop fans also, and if your gonna tell me not even one of them are a classic then you are a fuckin moron


Seriously, have you actually given Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt several plays? I doubt it. Cop the albums, then come back and tell me TES is on the level of Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt.

AliJack wrote:
mcZu wrote:Nas > Eminem

It's a fact, if you disagree, stfu...

And Eminem fans are not necessarily hip hop fans. Alot of Em fans are rock fans that started to like rap due to Em. Alot of Eminem fans don't even appreciate hip hop, just Eminem.

And if you say Em is better, then that is your opinion and preference. But the likes of Jay and Nas will always be above Eminem... Eminem would agree himself.

If you think Eminem is the best, okay, you may think that.. but don't say Nas is garbage, if you don't like him just say you don't.

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I agree whole-heartedly with this. Most Eminem fans don't really listen to hip hop in general, just Eminem. I doubt they even know what Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is and who its by. Don't bother wikipedia-ing it. I doubt they know Paid in Full too. And that's really sad. I'm not dissing anyone, I'm just saying before you compare two artists, please actually LISTEN to their albums. Not just one or two songs that you heard on the radio or YouTube. And yes, Eminem does admit in "Till I Collapse" that he is below Nas. It's just an accepted fact. Eminem NEEDS a real gem album that everyone from the streets can appreciate. A gem album like The Diary or Ready to Die.

wrestler1256 wrote:ill put in my 2 cents

Overall Eminem over Nas
Illmatic is by far one of the greatest peices of Hip Hop to ever grace the earth
its a classic album with some of the best rhyming schemes, poetry, story telling, and visualization techniques that i have ever heard

Eminem has no classic hip hop album IMO

TES is a classic album, but it doesnt classify to what makes a classic hip hop album. its just kinda in its own territory but its awesome.

SSLP could be if it didnt have songs like my fault and cum on everybody, but what he does on that album in 100% hip hop all the way

MMLP is a tough one. I see why people think its a classic, but its really just not my style. dont get me wrong i love individual songs like the way i am, stan, criminal, etc. but as an album overall it just... i dont even fuckin know i just dont think its a classic. im sorry i cant give a valid point, its all just personal preference i guess


Props. Exactly how I would say it. Eminem doesn't have a hip hop classic. He has an Eminem classic album. But I must say his albums are great. Just DIFFERENT from the typical street style.

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mcZu wrote:
flayke wrote:but Em has the upper-hand in terms of storytelling, imagery, emotion and the likes


Check out Undying Love, Rewind and Belly Button View (Fetus).


Those are all fuckin great but Em's got Stan and Kim which I think tell more emotional stories than both of those, with Undying Love being close.


True, Stan and Kim may tell more emotional stories than any of Nas's with the exception of One Mic, but they just fall short lyrically. His rhyme schemes on those tracks are more simple and his vocabulary is rather limited. Just listen to Rewind's story. It's much more complex. Or listen to I Gave You Power. I personally think Biggie's stories are better like Me & My Bitch or Somebody's Gotta Die, but Nas IS a street poet... Hm...

classthe_king wrote:Yeah, I think Nas is lyrically better then Eminem but like you grew up on Nas, the first hip hop artist I ever listened to was Eminem, then that led my curiosity to find other hip hop artists like Nas and Jay so every rapper to me has ties back to em. Like, I could listen to Sing For the Moment 100 times in a row and not get bored with it, but I couldn't think of a Nas song I could do that with.


I guess it's opinon. Sing for the Moment is a great song though. Nas and Eminem have different styles. It's real hard to compare them. Compare WITHING your own genre. Nas is more of an East Coast urban-reality rapper. Like Jay-Z is more of a Mafioso rapper. Eminem is just... something entirely different. My main problem with Eminem is that he whines too much about his life. And STILL stans want MORE PERSONAL TRACKS. It gets extremely irritating. :angry:
Yo, from the first to the last of it; delivery is passionate/
The whole and not the half of it; vocab and not the math of it/
Projectile that them blasted with; accurate assassin shit/
Me and Kweli close like... Bethlehem and Nazareth/


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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby AliJack » Aug 22nd, '09, 20:48

hewwa wrote:
AliJack wrote:
mcZu wrote:Nas > Eminem

It's a fact, if you disagree, stfu...

And Eminem fans are not necessarily hip hop fans. Alot of Em fans are rock fans that started to like rap due to Em. Alot of Eminem fans don't even appreciate hip hop, just Eminem.

And if you say Em is better, then that is your opinion and preference. But the likes of Jay and Nas will always be above Eminem... Eminem would agree himself.

If you think Eminem is the best, okay, you may think that.. but don't say Nas is garbage, if you don't like him just say you don't.

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Ali stfu..mcZu explained his opinion..you said MMLP and TES are clasics only for eminem fans..I ain't sayin Em is better than Nas or that Nas is better than Em, but those two albums are fuckin clasics..and honestly I can't decide who is better..they are both legends

Bitch gtf off my back. I never said Em wasn't a legend, I said Nas is greater than eminem you stupid dumbshit.
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby Evil-Genius » Aug 22nd, '09, 21:18

Slim shady > Nas
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This guy is truly SICK , He is the Black Eminem.
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby mcZu » Aug 22nd, '09, 21:20

Rewind > any song Em made in terms of creativity, period.
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby Brandon S » Aug 22nd, '09, 21:29

Nas to me, is a better lyricist. But eminem is a better artist, and makes better songs

They are both top 5 rappers to me
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby 313 » Aug 23rd, '09, 01:35

This is stupid topic. We have winner in the best raper alive and the best raper of all time.
And Eminem is most selling raper of all time.
So all you who denied that Eminem is a legend you are wrong.

Eminem>Nas
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Re: Eminem vs. Nas

Postby BILI » Aug 23rd, '09, 01:52

2Pac shits on both of them
End of story :D
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