Why do you think Encore is bad?

[DrunkenDeath]

Okay, i'm tired of people criticizing encore. encore is a great album. Not as good as the eminem show, but better than his first aftermath album. Better than the first two in my opinion.

Mockingbird
Like Toy Soldiers
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Love You More
We As Americans


These are some of Eminem's best songs. He sings from his mind and heart, and uses his skills, with really good beats, and sold 15 million worldwide. 6.2 million in america. sure, not as much as the eminem show, which has 25million worldwide and 11million in america, but that's because the eminem show is where we learned the most about him. But encore beat SSLP, which has only 9million world wide, while MMLP beats all the albums with 30 million world wide.

Discuss.

[Solace]

Oh yay another Encore discussion.

[classthe_king]

Oh yay another Encore discussion.

We went so long without one too

[shadeonback]

i was watching TES tracklist, and man i think its the perfect album, there's no weak songs

[Fa-Q]

Okay, i'm tired of people criticizing encore.

Im tired of people lying to themselves saying its good....whenever you feel tempted by Satan to listen to Encore pop in his other four major albums

[Dark Blue]

is was a good album...the end

[Relapse.LP]

It was a bad album, IMO. It's terrible compared to Eminem's albums. It's good compared to mainstream stuff coming out that time. It's bad compared to the good underground shit coming out that time. Why?

1. Complexity of lyrics fell in general. (Loss of multi-syllable rhyming and internal rhyming)
2. Subject matter was stale and random at points. ("I just did a song and didn't say shit." - Eminem)
3. Beats were terrible. (Dr. Dre was sleeping as stated in "Rain Man".)
4. Excessive filler/pointless tracks to a high point. (My 1st Single is one)
5. The skits were one of his absolute worst. (A.K.A. Em Calls Paul)

The album just sucked in general. 6/10

I used to like it more, but now looking back at it, it seriously was a stain in Eminem's discography.

[Fa-Q]

Mockingbird
Like Toy Soldiers
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Love You More----------
We As Americans--------

cant count those cause they werent oringinally on the album....so that leaves 5 good songs.....as opposed to his classics

[DrunkenDeath]

Encore singles + Bonus disc were good. I hate Ass Like That though.

It wasn't as good as the other albums and I'm pretty sure Em knows it too.

Maybe, but encore reached #1 in the charts in 2004, and beat sales of the slim shady lip, and it's been out for a decade.


and I think eminem said he liked encore, or he was depressed and made the songs sad and stuff.


let me find that interview...

[DrunkenDeath]

Mockingbird
Like Toy Soldiers
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Love You More----------
We As Americans--------

cant count those cause they werent oringinally on the album....so that leaves 5 good songs.....as opposed to his classics

faq, shut up. quit acting like you know everything. there are more good songs from encore than those five, I just didn't add them to the list because... never mind, just read my topic.

[DrunkenDeath]

This is what Eminem said about encore:

Eminem: Honestly, I'm not really angry at anything right now. I'm OK with my life and what's going on right now. This is not really an emotionally driven album. There are a couple of songs, Beautiful being one of them, that touch on where I am emotionally, but it goes there without getting too dark. The overall theme of the record is to have a centre. I feel like I lost that on my last albums. Encore is a good record but I don't feel like it was a great record for me. It wasn't quite up to what I feel like my personal standards are for myself. It wasn't all that I'm capable of doing.

AB: Are you saying that Encore falls short musically, lyrically or both?
Eminem: It feels a little too self-loathing to me. When I go back and listen to it… it just feels like I'm pissing and moaning about whatever. It sounds like in my head I feel like I have all these things to piss and moan about. And maybe I did, maybe I didn't, I don't know, but to actually bring that kind of shit to the forefront like that, I just don't agree with it. I guess to me now it feels like I beat up the subject of what was me. That's what that record's overall theme feels like. Even Curtain Call feels like that was me then and I guess it was. That is where I was at then.
AB: Are you at the point in your sobriety where you look back at those albums and trace how you were changing at all?

Eminem: Oh definitely. Encore wasn't the start of my drug use but it was the start of the progression of my addiction. It really went to the next level between The Eminem Show and Encore – that's when it started progressing from recreation to a real problem. Even though I knew it inside, I would never let on that it was a problem. Obviously I was pretty good at hiding it because I was pretty busy. I was a functioning addict. I knew in my mind, "I'm taking these pills just for the fuck of it now." I was taking them and I needed more and more. When I think back on my mental state back then – "Oh, I wrote this because of this" – I can see what I was going through. Sedative drugs like Valium and Vicodin and Ambien, they certainly put a cloud over your head. They put a dumbbell in your mood. If something is bad in the first place, it's going to seem so much worse than it even is. A normal, thinking person would approach a tough situation in life like, "Wow! This is a really fucked-up time period that I'm experiencing right now but I'll get through it." My attitude was, "I'm never getting through with it. This is the most horrible shit." I was concerned with things like "I can't go to the fucking mall any more, I can't go to the gas station, I can't pump my own gas, how fucked up is that? I can't walk into a 7-11 store!" I couldn't do those things any more and all I did was sit and bitch and complain about it.

[classthe_king]

Good Songs on Encore:
Like Toy Soldiers
Mockingbird

Average Songs on Encore:
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Mosh
Spend Some Time Encore

Bad Songs on Encore:
Evil Deeds
Puke
My First Single
Rainman
Big Weenie
Ass Like That
Just Lose It
Crazy In Love
One Shot 2 Shot



Thats why Encore sucks.

[Fa-Q]

Mockingbird
Like Toy Soldiers
Evil Deeds
Never Enough
Yellow Brick Road
Love You More----------
We As Americans--------

cant count those cause they werent oringinally on the album....so that leaves 5 good songs.....as opposed to his classics

faq, shut up. quit acting like you know everything. there are more good songs from encore than those five, I just didn't add them to the list because... never mind, just read my topic.

uhhmmm you posted a topic...i posted my opinion....quit bitchin...i didnt act like i know everything goddamn

[DrunkenDeath]

I'm tired of people lying to themselves saying its good....whenever you feel tempted by Satan to listen to Encore pop in his other four major albums

[Fa-Q]

I'm tired of people lying to themselves saying its good....whenever you feel tempted by Satan to listen to Encore pop in his other four major albums

are you agreeing with me??