Eminem not on MTV's Hottest MC List

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By the way, where is that faggot da.relapse.lp? This is one of his favorite topics.

Oh my God! Is he sick?!

I'm back, motherfuckers, lol. I didn't know you guys would be talking about such an important topic without me knowing. Another Eminem comparison...

Haha, Evil-Genius at you saying Raekwon is another broke rapper. He's fucking richer than your whole family will ever be and if you actually picked up his albums, you'd know he purposely tries to stay off the radio and underground. He admits it in an interview, actually.

Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... > MMLP

The beats were legendary on OB4CL and the story-telling is... brilliant. My favorite track off that album is probably Heaven & Hell. I could probably listen to the album of just RZA instrumentals... Dope.

As far as is Eminem or Raekwon is a better EMCEE, Eminem probably takes it. Slim is just more versatile in terms of flow and subject than Raekwon. But probably because Raekwon doesn't have enough albums to really define him as a rapper/person, but I still think Eminem takes the cake on this one.

And no, don't ever bring sales into this again. Who the fuck cares if Eminem sells several million than a rapper who is more respected and lyrically better than him? That rapper is better than Eminem and there's nothing more to argue. (Just a random example)

And MMLP > OB4CL2. Don't overrate OB4CL2 that extremely.

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And lmao at Evil for saying Tony Yayo is better than Wu-Tang.

For God's sake, U-God is better than 50 Cent if he had more exposure. Mad underrated.

And Termin8er you're so funny.

[Evil-Genius]

And lmao at Evil for saying Tony Yayo is better than Wu-Tang.

For God's sake, U-God is better than 50 Cent if he had more exposure. Mad underrated.

And Termin8er you're so funny.

Yo I said that over Msn to get him pissed off since hes a WuDickRider
Seriously you should need to laugh sometimes man ! Try it , Its great

And dont be talking about me or my family , I didnt bring up your family into any of our " fights " , Cause again its a pitty You dont know who I am and How rich my family is.....

Btw that Wutang rapper Is broke , Well tell me how the fuck he can make money When he never drops any albums ? Better yet who the fuck buy his shit ? Hes wack and he will always be.IF you compare him to Shady.
Cause you see Slim`s talent got him from NOTHING to being the greatest rapper to ever breath on a mic.
Unlike your Raekwon wack ass , Who has no talent , If he had talent he would be
A: Successful B:Has a fan base. C:Rich D: Famous
You see he has nothing of the above , PLUS we only hear his wacky ass " news " from a site called Rapradar. And only that.
You see , You cant compare Slim shady to any artist man Even if you`re a great WuDickRider You just cant , Rapping about cars rims money and honey Aint got shit to Em`s Lyrical ability I mean like lets see I`ll throw you a track of Em`s Closet , 8Mile road would Own the fuck outta any raekwon track in terms of LYRICS , FLOW , Story.
I dont give a fuck if Hes been in the game way before Em I dont GIVE A SHIT , Cause so what ? Seriously so what if he has been way before Slim ? Slim accomplished way more than his fail ass years in the rap game and sorry to tell you , You cant disagree with that.
Wanna Compare slim , Compare him to Tupac or Biggie or Nas , Then maybe we can base some points for each artist But You fucking bring me a 70 year old rapper from a wacky ass group who rap about thugs n rims to compare him to the Great one slim shady ? Na Bitch , Fuck off.

"And I`ll end this with a Fuck you and have a nice day !"

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And lmao at Evil for saying Tony Yayo is better than Wu-Tang.

For God's sake, U-God is better than 50 Cent if he had more exposure. Mad underrated.

And Termin8er you're so funny.

Yo I said that over Msn to get him pissed off since hes a WuDickRider
Seriously you should need to laugh sometimes man ! Try it , Its great

I wish I saw the argument with Msn.

[Evil-Genius]

MTV: No Longer A Music Authority
When I awoke this morning and saw MTV’s complete “Hottest MCs In The Game” list, I thought I found a misprint.... There was one name that was missing from the top ten... A guy named Eminem. MTV says the list is based on current achievements, rhyme skill, flow, buzz, impact, commercial success (sales, airplay, web presence, and helping to spawn other artist careers). So lets look at this closer shall we...

1. Achievements: Just this year, Eminem won “Best Hip Hop Video” at MTV’s Own Award Show. His “Relapse” album has gone over the Platinum status and he just happen to be the biggest artist in the world.

2. Rhyme Skill: Is there any question that Eminem is one of, if not the best rhyming rapper, period? On the new “Forever” track which features three artists in the top 5 Drake (#3), Lil Wayne (#2) and Kanye West (#4), Eminem clearly came with the most lyrical verse, even winning a fan poll over who had the best verse.

3. Influence: Not considering the face that Eminem is the most sot-after artist, but Lil Wayne himself has gone public many times practically begging Eminem to do a song with him oh and Eminem inducted Run-DMC into the Hall Of Fame.

4. Web Presence: Besides winning MTV’s own “Hottest MCs” Poll by far with over 38% of the votes (2nd place only had 18%), news stories, websites or any item containing Eminem’s name quickly becomes the number one trafficked item online. Let's not forget to mention that if you go to MTV.com, they list Eminem #6 on the "Hot Artists" list, but I guess that doesn't mean MCs.

5. Sales: That’s a Joke. Eminem is Hip Hop’s number one selling artist of all time, period. His new “Relapse” album went platinum easily in an environment where albums are considered great sellers if they go gold.

6. Buzz: Eminem’s “Relapse” album was by far the most anticipated album of 2009 and now his “Relapse 2” album is beyond the next most anticipated. Let's not forget that MTV itself used Eminem to boost ratings of their Movie Awards by staging a stunt with Bruno or getting him to do Shorts/Skits with Tracy Morgan for the recent Video Music Awards

7. Building Other Artists Careers: Really? Anyone ever heard of 50 Cent? G-Unit, D-12, Obie Trice etc. etc.

Not only is it clear that MTV does not care what fans or the public think (they ignored their own poll where fans voted Eminem #1), but they are trying to stay relevant with the youth by voting rappers who don’t even an album out yet, to the top (Sorry Drake, we will be happy to take this back once you drop a debut album that does well).

Oh and we forgot that Eminem also released his own video game (with Jay-Z), is headlining the Voo-Doo Festival and is currently working on his 2nd album in a year, Dr Dre's "Detox," 50 Cent's "Before I Self Destruct" and possibly signing Slaughterhouse.

It Seems that MTV wants to USE Eminem to help their ratings, web hits, video plays and exposure but they aren't willing to give credit, where credit is do. Last year and the year before Eminem did not make the list either. We aren't saying that Eminem should always be #1 but maybe next year the most popular and biggest hip hop artist of all time could break their top ten.

Thats from Rapbasement , Its still a mystery why they had Em on the poll at all. lol

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And lmao at Evil for saying Tony Yayo is better than Wu-Tang.

For God's sake, U-God is better than 50 Cent if he had more exposure. Mad underrated.

And Termin8er you're so funny.

Yo I said that over Msn to get him pissed off since hes a WuDickRider
Seriously you should need to laugh sometimes man ! Try it , Its great

And dont be talking about me or my family , I didnt bring up your family into any of our " fights " , Cause again its a pitty You dont know who I am and How rich my family is.....

Btw that Wutang rapper Is broke , Well tell me how the fuck he can make money When he never drops any albums ? Better yet who the fuck buy his shit ? Hes wack and he will always be.IF you compare him to Shady.
Cause you see Slim`s talent got him from NOTHING to being the greatest rapper to ever breath on a mic.
Unlike your Raekwon wack ass , Who has no talent , If he had talent he would be
A: Successful B:Has a fan base. C:Rich D: Famous
You see he has nothing of the above , PLUS we only hear his wacky ass " news " from a site called Rapradar. And only that.
You see , You cant compare Slim shady to any artist man Even if you`re a great WuDickRider You just cant , Rapping about cars rims money and honey Aint got shit to Em`s Lyrical ability I mean like lets see I`ll throw you a track of Em`s Closet , 8Mile road would Own the fuck outta any raekwon track in terms of LYRICS , FLOW , Story.
I dont give a fuck if Hes been in the game way before Em I dont GIVE A SHIT , Cause so what ? Seriously so what if he has been way before Slim ? Slim accomplished way more than his fail ass years in the rap game and sorry to tell you , You cant disagree with that.
Wanna Compare slim , Compare him to Tupac or Biggie or Nas , Then maybe we can base some points for each artist But You fucking bring me a 70 year old rapper from a wacky ass group who rap about thugs n rims to compare him to the Great one slim shady ? Na Bitch , Fuck off.

"And I`ll end this with a Fuck you and have a nice day !"

I thought our feud was over.

1. Calling Raekwon whack compared to Slim is fucking ignorant even for a Stan. Your fucking stupid ass didn't even know Raekwon existed till Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt. II dropped last month. So don't go around comparing your God to another rapper you never listened to.

2. Talent has nothing to do with blowing up like Eminem. There's fuckloads of underground talent that just need exposure to be recognized. But actually, Raekwon is deemed one of the best out of Wu-Tang and Wu-Tang is legendary, dumbass. So you gotta have money and fame to be talented? Fucking idiot, you basically said Soulja Boy is a great rapper. smh (Edit: Wu-Tang has a large fan base, idiot. They just don't have internet forums. They're street people making street music so it's obvious they got street fans... Just because Raekwon fans don't vote for MTV's Top 10 Rappers doesn't mean they're not there, idiot.)

3. Yes, you can compare Eminem to shitloads of rappers. Hell, I'll compare him to dead rappers. 2/3(Biggie's Talent) > Eminem and 2Pac > Eminem. Cunt, there's shitloads of rappers that you can "compare" to Eminem. Just because you sold the most doesn't make you the best of all time. Eminem admits in lots of his songs he ain't close to the best... You need to memorize his lyrics more, you failing Stan.

4. You think Raekwon raps about car rims, moneys, and honeys? I seriously am convinced you never touched a Raekwon track before. Just listen to Incarcerated Scarfaces or the whole goddamn Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... (the first one) and then come back to the forum, sigh. You can't beat sense into a stupid Stan. Yes, I love calling Stans Stans. I ain't a WuDickRider, though.

5. And just calling Raekwon fail ass is probably even dumber than saying Tony Yayo > Wu-Tang Clan. Seriously, what does Yayo have on Tang? By the way, Raekwon ain't even 40 years old.

6. LOL AT YOU CALLING EMINEM THE "GREAT ONE SLIM SHADY." GO WORSHIP HIM, FAGGOT, LMAO!

And dont be talking about me or my family , I didnt bring up your family into any of our " fights " , Cause again its a pitty You dont know who I am and How rich my family is.....

Your family is rich? I doubt that bullshit. And it's not a pity I don't know how broke ass your old pops is. Go jack off to his wedding pictures, fag.

You're hilarious for editing your previous post.

[Evil-Genius]

Again its a Pitty that you dont know me Or how rich my family is , Seriously lol.
Calling me a " Fag " " Cunt " " ass " cause you cant talk like normal people or like a man would make your points better ? Seriously how old are you ? I aint gonna curse or anything cuz this is the internet anyone can be tought behind his computer screen.
But you know what ? Since you said this "

Talent has nothing to do with blowing up like Eminem

So Em`s talent didnt got him the position he is now ? Yea ok I am done talkin to you.
Like I said countless of times before , Its a shame and Pathetic that you cant post in any topic without flamming other members , Seriously the internet is a great place for cowards to flame and get there big " curse words " out behind their computer screen. You`re pathetic , Go search for another topic to flame in ..
Have a nice day.

Done with you.

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Again its a Pitty that you dont know me Or how rich my family is , Seriously lol.
Calling me a " Fag " " Cunt " " ass " cause you cant talk like normal people or like a man would make your points better ? Seriously how old are you ? I aint gonna curse or anything cuz this is the internet anyone can be tought behind his computer screen.
But you know what ? Since you said this "

Talent has nothing to do with blowing up like Eminem

So Em`s talent didnt got him the position he is now ? Yea ok I am done talkin to you.
Like I said countless of times before , Its a shame and Pathetic that you cant post in any topic without flamming other members , Seriously the internet is a great place for cowards to flame and get there big " curse words " out behind their computer screen. You`re pathetic , Go search for another topic to flame in ..
Have a nice day.

Done with you.

So that's all you can come up with as a comeback? The first Eminem Stan gives up.

I acknowledge Eminem's talent got him here today, but you said Raekwon had no talent at all, because he wasn't as rich and famous as Eminem which is total bullshit. Its a shame and pathetic that you can't post in any topic without flamming other members who think against Eminem. Seriously, the internet is a great place for Stans to flame and get they're big "Stannery statements" out behind their computer screen. You're pathetic. Go to the Hip Hop Forum and see if you can find another topic to flame in with legit facts...

Done with you.

[freaksworld]

This "stan" and "stanery" shit is so fucking overused in every debate topics i read its mad annoying. Since "stan" speaks for itself, so by labeling someone stan mkaes it seem like that person's opinions don't matter while the labeler get all cocky for being so open-minded and shit. Yeah, some 'stans' don't give a good argument for their 'claims' but their claims don't make it a fact so stop bitching stan this stan that. Not all em's defenders come close to what stan really means so lets put a lid on that if possible

And just to stay on topic, with all the buzz he'd got this year, can't get how he didn't make the list.

[DƎRDYPK]

This "stan" and "stanery" shit is so fucking overused in every debate topics i read its mad annoying. Since "stan" speaks for itself, so by labeling someone stan mkaes it seem like that person's opinions don't matter while the labeler get all cocky for being so open-minded and shit. Yeah, some 'stans' don't give a good argument for their 'claims' but their claims don't make it a fact so stop bitching stan this stan that. Not all em's defenders come close to what stan really means so lets put a lid on that if possible

And just to stay on topic, with all the buzz he'd got this year, can't get how he didn't make the list.

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This "stan" and "stanery" shit is so fucking overused in every debate topics i read its mad annoying. Since "stan" speaks for itself, so by labeling someone stan mkaes it seem like that person's opinions don't matter while the labeler get all cocky for being so open-minded and shit. Yeah, some 'stans' don't give a good argument for their 'claims' but their claims don't make it a fact so stop bitching stan this stan that. Not all em's defenders come close to what stan really means so lets put a lid on that if possible

And just to stay on topic, with all the buzz he'd got this year, can't get how he didn't make the list.

Let's redefine it. Stan means a very big fan.

The word is part of music culture now. No one calls someone a Stan and means "someone who drives off a bridge with their girlfriend in the trunk and posters of an artist on their wall".

So when I say someone's a Stan, that person defends Eminem for the sake of defending and has invalid points basically. Dumbass comments like eminem > all are just ignorant.

[freaksworld]

Stan means a very big fan? rightt, and im supposed to take it as it is.. but then again, no one calls Lil Wayne's 'big' fans Stans or any other other rappers' hardcore fans if it had become such big part of the music culture.. isn't it because Em created Stan? and he created him to be someone much more crazy, not counting on driving off bridge part that is, but at least more obsessed, and unreasonable etc.. But take it anyway you want, you manage to make the so-called 'big fan' sounds worse than its meaning with each Stan you threw at ppl.

PS. im not trying to say you can't use the word or anything, but you don't have to repeat the word every other sentence to get your point across

[freaksworld]

^ and my point is NO ONE has called an obsessed Wayne fan Stan

[Alaine]

^ and my point is NO ONE has called an obsessed Wayne fan Stan

really? I saw a lot, not only in hip-hop community but even in pop culture, I saw a lot of artist's fans that get called "Stan"

[freaksworld]

i have only seen Em's fans getting that label every time a debate got out of hand on here, so sorry i was too sure of myself. Now im way off my point, all i wanna say is the overuse of the word is damn annoying.