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Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Berry » Nov 4th, '09, 19:11

Ello, fellow Em fans! *Let the rant begin*

I'm getting slighty annoyed with the lack of respect people give Em as an artist & his career... the major issue I've is that the majority of the music world & even some of his fans question him on being irrelevant. It was only a few years ago when 8 mile/Em show came out & the puplic couldn't get enough of him... the dude was pretty much MJ status at that point. Now present day, people say he has fallin' off, he's wack, corny, a joke, a shadow of his former self. Even, most of his fans have divided him into two parts...

OLD EM = Infinite, sslp, mmlp, Em show

NEW EM = Encore, re-up, Relapse

Well I say FUCK THAT SHIT!

There is no differnce, his voice may have matured over the years & oh yeah... he went back to his normal color hair (Honestly, a punk mag article I read layered out thats one of reasons he doesn't get the same attention WTF) Now we all know Encore was a disappointment & was rather shitty. However, I thought Relapse was dope, the singles were the worst songs & believe me I face palmed when I heard we made you. On the other hand, he somehow managed to improve his flow on that record & I thought that was impposible. Sooooooooo in his whole career Em has has 3 classics, One decent album & an average one (Encore)

How is that fallin' off? ... that seems to me like a fantastic catalogue of work. Now, fans are saying '' well if he doesn't bring the heat on R2 he can say sweet goodbye to me & his carreer in hip hop'' & heres another one... ''Em needs to stop, hes destroying his legendary name''

Where the fuck has he gone wrong? Sorry can someone please tell me!

Or is this a mordern fad to hate Em in these high times, Is it cuz he went away from the musical scene for a couple of years? Is it his age? Jay-Z doesn't get this much bullshit, I know hip hop heads trashed BP3, I thought BP3 was a good album. However, his singles are huge & played everywere. The public never questions if he is relevant, they even say he's still the best rapper alive. Lil wayne is always number 2, he's most hottest rapper in 2008/9 for some fuckin' reason, I have really tried to like that dude,but...I can barely understand him or his songs.

Anyway, so let me get this straight if Em has a huge single like Lose yourself or a song with Rihanna on R2 he will automatically be relevant again? Just because of one song?

Heres another example. I was at work & the song forever comes on the radio, one of the waitresses turns and say's to us '' That track is bangin', I use to be a massive Eminem fan, that verse on forever reminded me of Old MMLP Em''

ME = :confusion: :confusion: :angry: :n:

I simply asking why divide him & his career? and do you believe he is now irrelevant?
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby 14Shots » Nov 4th, '09, 19:17

dont exaggerate. he was never MJ status.
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Berry » Nov 4th, '09, 19:24

14Shots wrote:dont exaggerate. he was never MJ status.


Cheers very much, Fantastic reply! :)
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby ShadyVsEminem » Nov 4th, '09, 19:32

People expect to much from him,it seems people have a certain song in there head and he has to top that all the time.Relapse is a dope album not his best but still dope and if anyone else dropped a dope album id be happy.Since Relapse everything he has released has been on point so i cannot believe people think he is finished.Relapse 2 is gonna be dope he said there is less fuckin around and the content will surprise people.

If Eminem has fallen off a wanna hear the diss songs better than the warning from people who are...?on

I dont think he wants to be as big as he was and either would i be if it drove me over the edge once already.
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Shady'baby. » Nov 4th, '09, 19:37

I dont like him as much as i did, its simple, i liked Encore, but Relapse comes no where near to encore in my opinion, i couldnt give a fuck about his uber awesome syllibales and multis if he keeps rapping with a retarded voice and songs where i dont feel his anger/seriousness/pain i couldnt give a fuck about. The only song that comes remotely close to Em's old work is Beautiful, hence why most people that aren't stans (so that excludes everyone on this forum) only like beautiful off his album, Eminem didint get much props from celebs on this album, all i remember is Kanye saying "insane was genius" and thats it, i hope he suprises me with R2, if not then i dont give a fuck anymore, ill stop coppin and supporting him, and just keep listening to his old shit
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Mr.P » Nov 4th, '09, 19:38

I still love Em as much as I did in 03. But the fact is that Eminem has done so much music wise in his career and frankly topping that would be impossible. (Shocking lyrics and so on) Em may have changed a bit with his music but the fact is that times have changed, thats the reason for it not being what it used to. We have heard it all before. But I don’t think he has fallen off. The Warning, Forever and Psycho are tracks that prows he still got it. I understand people when it comes to the voice but imo he is mostly done with that and will bring fire with R2. Some material for R2 was probably recorded with R1 so there will be some accent songs on it. But I think the “recent” songs on it will be good. I am still the same big Em fan I was back in 03 and he will forever be the greatest MC imo because of his early work, no matter what he puts out now.

But I disagree that he doesn’t get the attention he deserves. Voted "Best Rapper Alive" and "Best Rapper of All Times" What more is there to get that truly matters for a Rapper?
And yeah some people say they will stop listening to him if R2 sucks, and they maybe will too. But ask those people and they will still say he is the best rapper alive, maybe of all times. Ofc the rapper you grew up on and related to is the best in your opinion. But what Em has done will never be topped.
With that being said, to me he is still as relevant as he always was.
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby embm » Nov 4th, '09, 19:41

Berry wrote:Ello, fellow Em fans! *Let the rant begin*

I'm getting slighty annoyed with the lack of respect people give Em as an artist & his career... the major issue I've is that the majority of the music world & even some of his fans question him on being irrelevant. It was only a few years ago when 8 mile/Em show came out & the puplic couldn't get enough of him... the dude was pretty much MJ status at that point. Now present day, people say he has fallin' off, he's wack, corny, a joke, a shadow of his former self. Even, most of his fans have divided him into two parts...

OLD EM = Infinite, sslp, mmlp, Em show

NEW EM = Encore, re-up, Relapse

Well I say FUCK THAT SHIT!

There is no differnce, his voice may have matured over the years & oh yeah... he went back to his normal color hair (Honestly, a punk mag article I read layered out thats one of reasons he doesn't get the same attention WTF) Now we all know Encore was a disappointment & was rather shitty. However, I thought Relapse was dope, the singles were the worst songs & believe me I face palmed when I heard we made you. On the other hand, he somehow managed to improve his flow on that record & I thought that was impposible. Sooooooooo in his whole career Em has has 3 classics, One decent album & an average one (Encore)

How is that fallin' off? ... that seems to me like a fantastic catalogue of work. Now, fans are saying '' well if he doesn't bring the heat on R2 he can say sweet goodbye to me & his carreer in hip hop'' & heres another one... ''Em needs to stop, hes destroying his legendary name''

Where the fuck has he gone wrong? Sorry can someone please tell me!

Or is this a mordern fad to hate Em in these high times, Is it cuz he went away from the musical scene for a couple of years? Is it his age? Jay-Z doesn't get this much bullshit, I know hip hop heads trashed BP3, I thought BP3 was a good album. However, his singles are huge & played everywere. The public never questions if he is relevant, they even say he's still the best rapper alive. Lil wayne is always number 2, he's most hottest rapper in 2008/9 for some fuckin' reason, I have really tried to like that dude,but...I can barely understand him or his songs.

Anyway, so let me get this straight if Em has a huge single like Lose yourself or a song with Rihanna on R2 he will automatically be relevant again? Just because of one song?

Heres another example. I was at work & the song forever comes on the radio, one of the waitresses turns and say's to us '' That track is bangin', I use to be a massive Eminem fan, that verse on forever reminded me of Old MMLP Em''

ME = :confusion: :confusion: :angry: :n:

I simply asking why devide him & his career? and do you believe he is now irrelevant?



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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Shady'baby. » Nov 4th, '09, 19:44

He's nowhere near MJ's status, MJ was the king of pop nobody would ever deny that, while not many rappers think Eminem is the king of Rap, hes up there in the top 10 or 5, but apart from several rappers, he isint the king of rap, its more like jayz is
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby embm » Nov 4th, '09, 19:48

^^ well in my opinion he is/shuld be :happy: :p
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 4th, '09, 19:53

^^Bullshit! Em aint the king, but neither is Jay-Z. Like Royce once said, there isnt the best. Every rapper's playin his position in this game. Get it in your head, people. There is no king of rap! There is an elite of rap, but no king.
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Raquel » Nov 4th, '09, 19:56

first of all, ur first post,so welcome :y:

I dont divide his career, i divide Old Em: Slim Shady/ New Em: No slim Shady but anyways i dont divide his career
sometimes i sai : ''It remind me old times'', and i mean 1999/2000 not Old EM
Of course i dont think he is corny,wack,a joke etc
I can do a constructive critic like: ''Oh thats song is not great'' or '' I was expecting more'' but i dont think he has fallin off
I don't care about his appearence,his hair I can say He looks aged or he wear horrible caps but cmon i dont care he can look like whatever he want
About music,I think relapse is dope too, its a good album,people didnt like relapse because they were expecting the best album ever made. I think he has to keep rapping,and i think R2 will be dope as fuck, until now i think every eminem's album was great. better , worse, but GREAT, because he is a GREAT rapper,so...
Its true that sometimes i dont like a song or whatever, like Taking My Ball, the first time I heard it i said:Oh its not fantastic but is quite well'' but i listened to it 3 more times n i changed my thought

I can recognise old albums like MMLP or TES were better than his current songs or Relapse, but anyways i still thinking he is the best,Relapse is not the best he has done but is awesomeee
I think the same: If he does a huge single like lose yourself people will say:Oh Eminem as his best wow he is back
And if he does a song with rihanna idk but hahaha i hope it won't happen

but dont kno why ppl always want everything similar like MMLP/SSLP/TES
Personally if you ask me i will say: yeah for R2 i Want it like TES/MMLP...but only because for me are the best, not because i dont wanna new things,or i dont like current em
u kno?

So i think I agree with you
(Oc sometimes i make mistakes criticizing too much everything..)


P.S: I can't stand lil wayne neither, i cant understand why is he so popular
Another P.S: i'm not english so probably i made mistakes writing
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Shady'baby. » Nov 4th, '09, 20:00

Its not about his album having to be MMlp or TES, its about it being good, peopel often say "i wish it was more like TES" they say that cuz they want it to be good as tes, but it doesnt have to be exactly that way, doesnt mean he cant experiment and that he has to stick to the same flow and formula, it just means he needs to keep it good, we love eminem cuz he was good, if you take the "good"part out of it, why the fuck would we love him, cuz he's good looking? lolz
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby embm » Nov 4th, '09, 20:16

Wic_Kid wrote:^^Bullshit! Em aint the king, but neither is Jay-Z. Like Royce once said, there isnt the best. Every rapper's playin his position in this game. Get it in your head, people. There is no king of rap! There is an elite of rap, but no king.


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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Damarkus » Nov 4th, '09, 20:17

very simple. Relapse sucking fucks encore pisses all over the top of that shit with its 4 gd songs. for the simple reason of bullshit content stupid fucking shitty accent that no serious rapper would use its fucking rediculous no accent what so ever was used befor encore absolutely none and every album is a classic. encore used accent were needed i.e songs taking the piss like ass like that rain man and fack. relapse fuck it i'll rap like a tard!
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Re: Eminem irrelevant?

Postby Shady'baby. » Nov 4th, '09, 20:31

Damarkus wrote:very simple. Relapse sucking fucks encore pisses all over the top of that shit with its 4 gd songs. for the simple reason of bullshit content stupid fucking shitty accent that no serious rapper would use its fucking rediculous no accent what so ever was used befor encore absolutely none and every album is a classic. encore used accent were needed i.e songs taking the piss like ass like that rain man and fack. relapse fuck it i'll rap like a tard!


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