Eminem irrelevant?

[Berry]

Even as a crazed Nas/Lupe fan... that third verse on stay wide awake was unbelievable!

Thats when I truly realised Em's rhyming talent >> Hip hop!

Even though, I'm slighty mad that so called Em fans have turned their back on him... I still believe he will produce a fantastic/classic album.

[Shady'baby.]

Dont get me wrong, i havent turned my back on him, Relapse is what to most fans Encore was, i liked encore and hate relapse, most fans hate encore and like relapse, its just difference in taste. I think R2 will be great, everything after r1 was great, so my expectations are high, they werent high for R1, after hearing "im having a relapse" + track with trick, and crack a bottle. I said i would give up and turn my back if R2 is as shitty as R1, cuz it would mean he just doesnt have it anymore, but i dont think that will be the case.

[Shady'baby.]

I dont like him as much as i did, its simple, i liked Encore, but Relapse comes no where near to encore in my opinion, i couldnt give a fuck about his uber awesome syllibales and multis if he keeps rapping with a retarded voice and songs where i dont feel his anger/seriousness/pain i couldnt give a fuck about. The only song that comes remotely close to Em's old work is Beautiful, hence why most people that aren't stans (so that excludes everyone on this forum) only like beautiful off his album, Eminem didint get much props from celebs on this album, all i remember is Kanye saying "insane was genius" and thats it, i hope he suprises me with R2, if not then i dont give a fuck anymore, ill stop coppin and supporting him, and just keep listening to his old shit

^ an example of an emo fan.

^ an perfect example why this forum is going to shit, grats being one of the most retarded members on this forum, u should be proud u.^

[Evan C.]

Dont get me wrong, i havent turned my back on him, Relapse is what to most fans Encore was, i liked encore and hate relapse, most fans hate encore and like relapse, its just difference in taste. I think R2 will be great, everything after r1 was great, so my expectations are high, they werent high for R1, after hearing "im having a relapse" + track with trick, and crack a bottle. I said i would give up and turn my back if R2 is as shitty as R1, cuz it would mean he just doesnt have it anymore, but i dont think that will be the case.

I pray that you haven't already procreated. PLEASE, never do so...it is your duty as a human being to not pass your stupidity on to an innocent child.

[Relapse.LP]

Okay, for starters, Eminem was MJ status in 2002, he was the biggest & most succesful artist on the planet. "Lose Yourself" is one of the most succesfull singles in history.

And Yes he is the King of Hip-Hop, there is not a single artist ever in hip-hop that can compare, maybe in the united states but we are talking worldwide here not in just one country!, his status is a million times that of any other rapper that ever excisted globally.....i'm just stating Facts.

Uh, Eminem was never MJ Status. MJ Status is if when you die from murder, international police will drop whatever the fuck they're doing and run to the murder scene. MJ Status is if when you die from murder, the media from all over the world will send teams of reporters to get first-hand accounts of it and make up fucking bullshit in the middle and there will be so many reporters, police have to shoot their way through the big-ass crowd. MJ Status is if when you die, people will erect a second "Jerusalem" holy site where music-fans take pilgrimages every year to pay homage to the deceased legend.

Eminem won't ever get there.

And saying he is the king of hip-hop and no one can compare just shows how narrow-minded you are and that you probably don't listen to rap as a genre. Please, 2Pac's status still remains to be higher than Eminem even though 2Pac is dead. Nas gets twice the respect Eminem gets from the streets in general. And that's no fact...

Also, "Lose Yourself" is NOT one of the MOST successful singles in history. You really don't know music history, do you? There's tons of songs that sold more than Lose Yourself I can name off the top of my head. And they're not all rap either.

Oh, Im just waitin for da.relapse.lp to get on this thread...

Hello.

And to answer the actual question: a rapper can't exactly fall off. Rappers can get influences by cash and get lazy, but once you have written hip-hop, you won't NOT be able to write it again, unless you have so mental or physical condition. (drugs)

And Eminem was never irrevelant. He was just overrated at times... People, please stop trying to defend Encore. Truth is it wasn't up to par with his other albums, no matter how much you're trying to convince yourself Eminem had a flawless career. It ain't true and no MC ever had a flawless career.

I personally believe Relapse could have been much better, but who cares if people try to divide Eminem up into old Slim and new Slim. It is what is is; Eminem possesses a different music style now than he did before in the early 2000's. No point in trying to deny that some people dig him now and some don't.

Even as a crazed Nas/Lupe fan... that third verse on stay wide awake was unbelievable!

Thats when I truly realised Em's rhyming talent >> Hip hop!

Even though, I'm slighty mad that so called Em fans have turned their back on him... I still believe he will produce a fantastic/classic album.

You mean that Eminem himself is greater than the whole culture of hip-hop? Wow. True Stannery at its greatest peak; I never saw such a ridiculous comment in my life. Hip-hop is a culture. Eminem is an aritst. If you wanted to bullshit us correctly, it would be "Em's rhyming talent >> Rap!" Fail.

Dude took a five year break after releasing some of the worst shit in his career (Encore/ReUp/various Colabs around that time).

Peoples last impressions of Eminem are of a broken down wack MC.

Then he came back with Relapse, which was an album full of boring material, with an annoying accent. He had no wit. He had one good sorta personal song (Deja Vu). People don't want to listen to bullshit material in a retarded accent filled voice. They want real songs that carry a message/theme, and rapped in his own voice. Either the angry voice, or the goofy make you laugh like crazy voice. He had neither on Relapse.

What are the two songs people pick as their favorites? Beautiful despite being horrible lyrically and DejaVu.

So now peoples impressions of Eminem are of an MC who has lost his ability to craft a good, solid album from start to finish, and an MC with a boring and bland personality (Check his interviews).

Bottomline is simple, Stans. He fell off the mountain top throne, and gravity pulled his ass into the earth. He's clawing his way out, but it's slow progress. Very slow.

He's a has been.

As much as I acknowledge Eminem's flaws as an artist, to say that an MC has "lost his ability to craft a good, solid album from start to finish" is just an opinion.

Although, I do admit, Relapse disappointed me for a hip-hop head... The accent just pissed me off. Don't defend the accent. Yes, I'm used to it now, but some people can't take his songs seriously with that fucking voice. Some even think he's a joke, so don't blame it on us.

Well I love eminems music and I always will. I dont think he fell off he just used a different approach hes not so mainstream anymore. He isnt making music for anything but himself and fans.

Mainstream means that you still give a fuck about selling. Making songs like "We Made You" means Eminem still gives a fuck about selling, despite the amount of money he has.

Okay, actually, to differentiate... Mainstream and Underground are constantly confused. IMO, almost all rappers are mainstream if they are signed to a label and underground means you are "unsigned hype", according to the Source. So, mainstream can be a good thing and underground can be bad.

Bring the hate, people. Watch me get bombarded.

[Wic Kid]

^Wow, thats a big post. Anyway, I mostly agree wit you. There's only one thing. Nas does have lotta respect from the streets, no doubt. But to put Eminem there and make a comparison? Thats just pointles and stupid.
Cuz Em doesnt rap for the streets, he said it himself. Yes I know, rap originated there, but Em does his own thing. On Infinite he tryed to pull off that street rap. And what happened? FAIL. Then he realized thats not the way a white boy gets a contract. So he switched his style up. And thats what made him famous.
My point is, he doesnt get the respect from the streets cuz he shouldnt. And he doesnt need it.

[Relapse.LP]

^Wow, thats a big post. Anyway, I mostly agree wit you. There's only one thing. Nas does have lotta respect from the streets, no doubt. But to put Eminem there and make a comparison? Thats just pointles and stupid.
Cuz Em doesnt rap for the streets, he said it himself. Yes I know, rap originated there, but Em does his own thing. On Infinite he tryed to pull off that street rap. And what happened? FAIL. Then he realized thats not the way a white boy gets a contract. So he switched his style up. And thats what made him famous.
My point is, he doesnt get the respect from the streets cuz he shouldnt. And he doesnt need it.

Look where hip-hop has spread to. smh. Without respect from the streets, how can you call yourself a rapper? You need at least some respect... not some from white rock-listeners changed to mainstream wanna-bes. Not saying any of you are.

[Wic Kid]

Offcourse he needs to gain some respect from the streets, no question about that. But for a rap superstar, he doesnt get that much. And I think thats actually a reason why he doesnt get it. He got too big. I know that there are lotta other rap superstars who are respected from the streets, but lets face it. A white boy is the most famous rapper ever? No wonder he's hated.

[Berry]

very simple. Relapse sucking fucks encore pisses all over the top of that shit with its 4 gd songs. for the simple reason of bullshit content stupid fucking shitty accent that no serious rapper would use its fucking rediculous no accent what so ever was used befor encore absolutely none and every album is a classic. encore used accent were needed i.e songs taking the piss like ass like that rain man and fack. relapse fuck it i'll rap like a tard!

Only six tracks have the accent style.

[Relapse.LP]

Offcourse he needs to gain some respect from the streets, no question about that. But for a rap superstar, he doesnt get that much. And I think thats actually a reason why he doesnt get it. He got too big. I know that there are lotta other rap superstars who are respected from the streets, but lets face it. A white boy is the most famous rapper ever? No wonder he's hated.

I beg to differ. No other GOOD rapper really hates him.

And 2Pac is the most famous rapper ever, IMO. Fame doesn't mean skill though.

[Wic Kid]

^Not a chance, man. 2Pac might be the most famous rapper in AMERICA (eventhough I highly doubt that, cuz people love controversy and Em has provided them with shitload of it), but in rest of the world Eminem is far more popular.

[Relapse.LP]

I hate when it comes to this' but compare 2Pac video views on YouTube with Eminem's.

And shock value is fucking played out. Anyone can talk about rape...and never raped. We need real deep rap, not some bullshit fantasies.

[Wic Kid]

^Yeah, but Em has like 100 times more videos than Pac. So when you wanna watch video of Em, you have lot more shit to watch. So the viewers get divided...

But anyway, you're right. He needs to step his game up and rap some real shit. If you're already maturing, mature-up your rap, for gods sake. I wanna hear you spittin some of that Lose Yourself shit! Defend your crown!...

[Wic Kid]

^Scotty, whether you like it or not, that album did fail. Plus, I got this documentary on dvd where he explains himself why Infinite failed.

[Evan C.]

Offcourse he needs to gain some respect from the streets, no question about that. But for a rap superstar, he doesnt get that much. And I think thats actually a reason why he doesnt get it. He got too big. I know that there are lotta other rap superstars who are respected from the streets, but lets face it. A white boy is the most famous rapper ever? No wonder he's hated.

I beg to differ. No other GOOD rapper really hates him.

And 2Pac is the most famous rapper ever, IMO. Fame doesn't mean skill though.

dude... eminem is far more popular & famous than tupac ever has been.

eminem's fame popularity >>> tupac's

I know...are people fucking high?

There are people who've never heard of Tupac, there is absolutely NO ONE older than 10 years old who has never heard of Eminem.